Reduce number of subsistence farms!

[donalddawkins]

Seems like there can be a never-ending limit on subsistence farms, meaning that it's very hard to cause existential collapses through famines and population decline (Starvation).

Come on, give me the power to starve the world (or my own subjects!)

[DinoMight]

there is as much subsistence farms as there is arable land

and guess what, most of community is asking for more arable land, because currently its really easy to turn subsistence farms into industry/farms and get overcroweded effect which gives debuff to migration

if anything, you are getting more of them xD
starvation here is connected to SoL
i think for africa starting SoL is starving, so what you wish already exists

[adobo]

Try playing countries in Asia. You have more people than you have land.

[donalddawkins]

Originally posted by DinoMight:

there is as much subsistence farms as there is arable land

and guess what, most of community is asking for more arable land, because currently its really easy to turn subsistence farms into industry/farms and get overcroweded effect which gives debuff to migration

if anything, you are getting more of them xD
starvation here is connected to SoL
i think for africa starting SoL is starving, so what you wish already exists

Just Ran a game where i destroyed my entire industry as spain at game start (deleted all industry, enforced serfdom, brought in slavery) and destroyed all rural industry (except of course subsistence farms) and I couldn't get the SOL less then 7.1! I only get declining population after a civil war that finally reduced SOL to 4.1 (revolution only occurred as I rushed through autocracyI might add, the peasants didnt care about being re-enslaved back to feudalism but got upset that the nobility weren't getting their say lol)

I shall repeat this experiment with China and see what happens.

[DinoMight]

Originally posted by donalddawkins:

Originally posted by DinoMight:

there is as much subsistence farms as there is arable land

and guess what, most of community is asking for more arable land, because currently its really easy to turn subsistence farms into industry/farms and get overcroweded effect which gives debuff to migration

if anything, you are getting more of them xD
starvation here is connected to SoL
i think for africa starting SoL is starving, so what you wish already exists

Just Ran a game where i destroyed my entire industry as spain at game start (deleted all industry, enforced serfdom, brought in slavery) and destroyed all rural industry (except of course subsistence farms) and I couldn't get the SOL less then 7.1! I only get declining population after a civil war that finally reduced SOL to 4.1 (revolution only occurred as I rushed through autocracyI might add, the peasants didnt care about being re-enslaved back to feudalism but got upset that the nobility weren't getting their say lol)

I shall repeat this experiment with China and see what happens.

i mean there you go...i think you hit the actual lowest numbers, im not being ironic when i say that your achievement should be written on vic3 wiki

i guess thats how you do it

gl with china run!

[donalddawkins]

Originally posted by DinoMight:

Originally posted by donalddawkins:

Just Ran a game where i destroyed my entire industry as spain at game start (deleted all industry, enforced serfdom, brought in slavery) and destroyed all rural industry (except of course subsistence farms) and I couldn't get the SOL less then 7.1! I only get declining population after a civil war that finally reduced SOL to 4.1 (revolution only occurred as I rushed through autocracyI might add, the peasants didnt care about being re-enslaved back to feudalism but got upset that the nobility weren't getting their say lol)

I shall repeat this experiment with China and see what happens.

i mean there you go...i think you hit the actual lowest numbers, im not being ironic when i say that your achievement should be written on vic3 wiki

i guess thats how you do it

gl with china run!

Ha thanks, I shall continue on my quest to see if I can get mass population decline and regressive societal structures, for science of course!

Just re-checked, only got it to 4.9 and not 4.1 =(

[DinoMight]

Originally posted by majikero:

Try playing countries in Asia. You have more people than you have land.

yea asia is primary reason why this disbalance with subsistence farms even exists in the first place, yo gotta fill that many people, and still make it realistic in geographical terms in comparison to other parts of the world AND NOT make your PC crash and burn while trying to run such simulation