Victoria 3 "Anno 1836"

[Reive]

Vicky 3 is more Anno/Factorio Production sim than economy sim. Which is fine and entertaining to secure resources and build supply chains, but its not really Victoria now is it.

[Mad_House]

Not true at all.

Factorio actually has combat.

[Toblm]

Thats what Vikky always was.

[[ARGD]LukeGerman]

Originally posted by Toblm:

Thats what Vikky always was.

No? Vikky was a Game focused on Geopolitics and Colonialism/Nationalism.
Now its just a click on expand factory simulator...

[Toblm]

Originally posted by LukeGerman:

Originally posted by Toblm:

Thats what Vikky always was.

No? Vikky was a Game focused on Geopolitics and Colonialism/Nationalism.

Still is.

Economy was always the name of the game.

[a.k.a DMDonahue]

Originally posted by Toblm:

Originally posted by LukeGerman:

No? Vikky was a Game focused on Geopolitics and Colonialism/Nationalism.

Still is.

Economy was always the name of the game.

actually the name of the game was always victoria, sometimes the stuff after it changed but yknow

[Inquerion]

My thoughts exactly. With some fixes, it can be nice Anno/Factorio like game. More beginner friendly than Factorio.

But it's not a sequel to Victoria 1 and 2. It's no longer GSG.

[Tanuvein]

Originally posted by a.k.a DMDonahue:

Originally posted by Toblm:

Still is.

Economy was always the name of the game.

actually the name of the game was always victoria, sometimes the stuff after it changed but yknow

I always thought it was funny the Vic 2 box has Bismarck in an action pose on an active warfront on the cover and VICTORIA in big words above his head.

"Rule by Iron, Conquer Through Blood!"

Both Bismarck and Victoria do have eyes and faces, so they are basically the same person.

[Toblm]

Originally posted by Inquerion:

My thoughts exactly. With some fixes, it can be nice Anno/Factorio like game. More beginner friendly than Factorio.

But it's not a sequel to Victoria 1 and 2. It's no longer GSG.

I mean.... you're wrong. It's your right to be wrong.

Victoria 3 is by every definition a grand strategy game.

[Inquerion]

Originally posted by Toblm:

Originally posted by Inquerion:

My thoughts exactly. With some fixes, it can be nice Anno/Factorio like game. More beginner friendly than Factorio.

But it's not a sequel to Victoria 1 and 2. It's no longer GSG.

I mean.... you're wrong. It's your right to be wrong.

Victoria 3 is by every definition a grand strategy game.

It's just a strategy game/light economic simulator now.

It's not Grand Strategy Game anymore. Too simplified in many aspects. Not only in warfare.

[Akvavit]

Every country plays like communist country. This is a management game, not a grand strategy game like Vicky 2.

[Toblm]

Originally posted by Inquerion:

Originally posted by Toblm:

I mean.... you're wrong. It's your right to be wrong.

Victoria 3 is by every definition a grand strategy game.

It's just a strategy game/light economic simulator now.

It's not Grand Strategy Game anymore. To simplified in many aspects. Not only in warfare.

Risk is Grand Strategy and is about as simple as it gets. Scale, not complexity makes Grand Strategy grand.

[naughtymoi]

Originally posted by Toblm:

Originally posted by LukeGerman:

No? Vikky was a Game focused on Geopolitics and Colonialism/Nationalism.

Still is.

Economy was always the name of the game.

Is it? Where are the major differences you had in V2 between command economy and laissez-faire ? What about the same technological/society tree for everyone which simply self-discovers itself no matter what ? Westernization gone, local tradition reduced to some silly autocratic form of government, commerce a masquerade, resources spread based on an idiotic levelling base and so on.

It is an extremely poorly made game, there's nothing complex about its economic side, just muddy, and boringly bland.

[Lordpfeif]

I miss the whole system of victoria 2. China no longer needs to westernized it just starts off with all the same tech no differences. Doesn't need to paritalize westernize then fully westernize to catch up in weapon and other tech. You can no longer crash the global economy which is a bad thing. No longer will factories matter and what other people buy ever the global economy doesn't really exist as it did in vick2. republic goverments don't matter we have 0 difference between, communist, republic, nationalist, no capitalist like the other one that made factories and railroads. EVERY nice system is gone.

[Toblm]

Originally posted by Lordpfeif:

I miss the whole system of victoria 2. China no longer needs to westernized it just starts off with all the same tech no differences. Doesn't need to paritalize westernize then fully westernize to catch up in weapon and other tech. You can no longer crash the global economy which is a bad thing. No longer will factories matter and what other people buy ever the global economy doesn't really exist as it did in vick2. republic goverments don't matter we have 0 difference between, communist, republic, nationalist, no capitalist like the other one that made factories and railroads. EVERY nice system is gone.

Same tech tree, not the same tech. There is still a bunch of catch up to do.

The market is significantly better in Vic3. Vic2s markets were not a "nice thing."

[Kimlin]

Originally posted by naughtymoi:

Originally posted by Toblm:

Still is.

Economy was always the name of the game.

Is it? Where are the major differences you had in V2 between command economy and laissez-faire ? What about the same technological/society tree for everyone which simply self-discovers itself no matter what ? Westernization gone, local tradition reduced to some silly autocratic form of government, commerce a masquerade, resources spread based on an idiotic levelling base and so on.

It is an extremely poorly made game, there's nothing complex about its economic side, just muddy, and boringly bland.

I admit the self discovery of technology is very off putting. That’s my biggest complaint