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What do you think pain is for living beings like us Humans? It's just a warning system telling you that, hey, brain, up there, something's not right about this location on your body. Do something about it.
efficiency seems to be a minor consideration considering they can cry, wear heels, and feel emotions
they don't have genitals though, we see enough dead androids to know that. whether they have nipples is another matter though...
I agree with you. I should have clarified a bit more. Physical pain is ultimately a feedback mechanism. But then there is a "higher" level of pain perception such as gut churning guilt, blood boiling rage, physical changes imposed through mental or emotional damage. Even in terms of physical pain, some go as far as to say there is some form of consciousness that makes it not all physical.
Some people seem to think such physical changes are not just physical but "something else." This is what I meant when I stated "whether they genuinely feel pain or are simply told by their sensors there is damage to their anatomy." This is where my nihilism kicks in and proposes that no, there is nothing else other than our biological circuits telling us something is wrong, that everything is ultimately physical.
Remember that time when 9S was taken captive and Adam said that one line...?
You're thinking about how much you want to **** 2B aren't you?
(And yes, I was one of those people who laughed because it caught me off guard.)
People have proposed it wasn't what we all thought it was, but rather "kill" instead. I can't tell which it is, the latter has a lot of evidence to back it up in excerpts such as the ones that describe the secret behind 9S and 2B's relationship written in places like the guidebooks. However...if the initial word we all thought it meant was actually what the author meant...the genitalia thing...
Those emotions (achieved through implanted personalities by design, but also emerging from their own development of "self") are the point of their existence. It's no wonder it would be more efficient to have emotionless androids, but that's the whole point.
It seems pretty obvious to me that they are also forbidden from expressing such emotions on purpose, to actually entice them into focusing on them.
That's unless I missed something.
Given how pain is a primitive reaction to prevent further damage, would certain emotions also be hardwired to trigger based on certain stimuli? Animals have instincts that drive them to react based on outside events such as the fight-or-flight response. I would imagine these instincts would trigger emotions such as anger or fear as an animal backed into a corner would growl, bear its fangs, or even bulk itself up to appear larger and more intimidating. It would be odd if it feels indifferent emotionally while adjusting its physical appearance for defense. With this in mind, androids can be coded to experience emotion based on stimuli too.
The odd thing that androids can do that has been shown throughout the game is that they are capable of readjusting their behavior and emotions by a third party. There are two major points in the game that show a reformat or recoding core behavior can change how the affected android lives. Going through spoilers here, Devola & Popola were reprogrammed to have a constant feeling of a guilty sin due to one pair of Devola & Popola failing to maintain Project Gestalt. Another side quest details this one android couple on the run. The female confesses at the end that she and her lover have been on the run for a long time with her reformatting her mate based on circumstances.
As for physical anatomy and possibility of genitalia, I have heard something from the first Nier that may bear proof to that, but I have yet to play the game to know if this is true.
The Forbidden Fruit concept.
Tell someone they can't do something because you "ban" it, and it just makes them want to do it more, getting more desperate to find new ways to get around the supposed 'ban'.
1 they must have genitals if they have mouths
2 they must have mouths and need them in order to communicate and chaos language is the remains of human language that is spoken by the Androids now
Interesting theory. Did not think about how the languages we hear in the story were more for practical communication to the audience, always thought it was part of the story since androids were programmed by humans. By chaos language, did you mean the "gibberish" lyrics heard in the songs of the soundtrack? Or something else?
A friend and I were joking around about this subject about anatomy and I remember we had an interesting (but honest to god impossible) theory. It also relates to why the human race actually went extinct.
The idea was "why does 2B and other female androids have breasts?" The question was paired with why they have the clothing they wear such as the white leotards (?) they wear underneath their black uniforms. Even the uniforms show some sexual appeal, definitely not what fighters would wear. Of course, Yoko Taro's preferences and a way to grab the audience's attention and all. However, we wanted to go further.
The theory is that humanity did not go extinct necessarily because of aliens. Rather, the aliens were the ultimate killing blow. What really drove humanity to extinction was a significantly reduced population. This was caused by a trend we are starting to see happening gradually today: sex robots.
The human race in NieR:Automata drove themselves into extinction because they had too many people buying sex robots that became highly advanced technologically, not only for sexual pleasure, but even had the ability to simulate affection and care to their owners. As a result, it was impossible to hold off the alien threat because there were not enough people.
What does this mean about YoRHa? In other words, although YoRHa (and other androids) is a spectacular legion of elite mechanical agents, it is all the result of a highly advanced, red light, pornographic industry. So who knows? 9S only stated they can't reproduce. Never explained why, though.Sex robots can't reporduce either. So despite lacking biological functions to make offspring, they may still have retained the artificial organs humans placed on their mechanical ancestors ages ago.
And to top it off, it would be quite shocking to know the elite organization you're a part of had such an origin. The Commander probably had no way to break it to everyone, she didn't know how well the organization would take it, how, at the very least, awkward it would be. So instead, she felt it was easier to say humanity existed, and if the lie was busted, say humanity didn't exist and blame it all on the aliens.
Your theory is quite entertaining but I wonder why you came up with such theory in the first place. We know precisely what happened to humanity in the world of NieR:Automata. Basically the original NieR game covers the whole story. I suppose you weren't aware of this, hence
the theory relating to humanity's fate. So my point is, I would recommend checking out the story of that game. I myself didn't play it either, but there are a few references to NieR so better knowing what's what makes NieR:Atuomata even more enjoyable.
Oh, I know the true reasons and what actually happened to humanity. I haven't played the past games, but I have read on what happens in the previous stories along with the details of the past projects, Gestalt, and Replicant. I understand the lore. The theory I presented is interesting, but as you said, just isn't possible. The theory was ultimately really to appeal to the silly side of my personality.