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MrInvizible Oct 28, 2018 @ 10:29pm
Hunt for the Secret Ending (Sp0173r$, s̸͖̘̫̀o̸̜͕͐ ̵̳̥̙̮̎͐̎͝m̵̱̖̗̊a̵̢͍̭̠̽n̴̡̏ẏ̸̪̒ ) |FOUND|
So... What's up with Endervale? That's weird? And Carla's Computer? What about Wizarro and the Locket? So many puzzle pieces, do they even fit together?

So... I'd like to point out what I and the community seems to have put together so far, and maybe we can put together the rest. SPOILERS AHEAD

1. The Entervale command leads you to a strange world (Endervale, let's call it, since it is referenced as that).
2. Carla's computer is accessible in SoL. Using it Duplicates your items!
3. Carla's computer is accessible from Endervale.
4. By using Carla's computer in Endervale, you can potentially duplicate the Book of Vallamir up to 9 times.
5. You can use the book of Vallamir on Lazarus O.o and he loses all ability to fight.
6. (Rocketflex) Using Endervale, you can complete the tutorial without killing Moji, and the game reacts to this change.

Additionally:

1. You can use fishing to get The Locket
2. Wizarro reacts to The Locket if you bring it to him.
3. After doing so, he mentions a Cipher, and if you bring it to him, he will translate The Locket to you
4. He mentions that he had a Cipher awhile ago, but he lost it
5. Wizarro only appears in 2 other games: Combat Arena X and Waste World

That's all I've got. Other than the 5 ways to break the game and get the Error Achievements. Doing all 5 of those has not created any unique behavior or endings in the game as far as I can tell. It seems that there are some things that we have yet to figure out. Either that or I'm just an idiot and someone already has. So... anyone have any thoughts?
Last edited by MrInvizible; Nov 15, 2018 @ 9:41am
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Rocketlex Oct 29, 2018 @ 8:06pm 
If this is the thread for possible secrets regarding the Endervale, I'll repost a discovery I made that I posted in the Symbols thead, since it could be more relevant here.

Via convoluted means, it's possible to die during the tutorial fight of Secrets of Legendaria and therefore not kill Moji.

Using Entervale, trigger the slime fight instead of the tutorial fight. At the start of the fight, use your Book to get the advanced spells. Now, you want to end this fight with 15 HP OR LESS. The slimes deal 20 to you and you can deal 15 to yourself, so math that out however you can make it work.

Once the slime fight ends, Legendaria will be reset, but you'll still have your advanced spells AND the HP you ended the slime fight with. Now, start the tutorial fight as normal and immediately use Blood Pact to shave off your last few HP. You'll die, and...this happens.

https://imgur.com/a/FNQ7EU6

Now things get weird. The dialogue runs as though you defeated Moji, but the chat on the right is a little different only saying "Good night sweet prince" and making sad faces instead of calling you a murderer. THEN, the game warps you to town as though you'd died normally.

Everything appears to be the same immediately after that, but I wonder if this impacts anything later on. Moji has been spared, and the game does...HALF react to that. Could this change something down the line? I've yet to see if this actually changes anything.
Last edited by Rocketlex; Oct 29, 2018 @ 8:09pm
MrInvizible Oct 29, 2018 @ 8:17pm 
Originally posted by Rocketlex:

Everything appears to be the same immediately after that, but I wonder if this impacts anything later on. Moji has been spared, and the game does...HALF react to that. Could this change something down the line? I've yet to see if this actually changes anything.

It would be possible to combine this with the Book of Vallamir Duplication. I'm not sure to what goal though.

Still hoping to find the Wizarro Cipher as well. I should have labeled this a general Secret Ending hunt chat
jacksonmills Oct 30, 2018 @ 7:49pm 
The only thing I've noticed about letting Moji kill you is that after that, the first time you purchase a strawberry pie, pies appear all over town. It might unlock a "glitched" version of the game but I'm not sure if it has any other impact after that event.

There's also a lot of stuff in "Entervale" that might have some purpose in the story.

I wrote down a lot of it, here's what I can make out:

`BBoy was here`
`pitiful soul weak`
`a well made bed`
`crying 0's and i'm hearing 111's`

There's also a bottle that you can fish for and get that I have no idea what it does, but the item description says "sceneid=flashback_fantasyisland". You can't ever use that item, it seems, and it doesn't look like it "leaves" Legendaria.
zarat.us Oct 31, 2018 @ 3:18am 
Last edited by zarat.us; Oct 31, 2018 @ 3:18am
MrInvizible Oct 31, 2018 @ 9:20am 
Originally posted by zarat.us:
Is this the bottle you're referring to?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1548723050

And the plot thickens. Have you tried duplicating the bottle?
Last edited by MrInvizible; Oct 31, 2018 @ 9:20am
Velocity Squid Oct 31, 2018 @ 9:35am 
Originally posted by MrInvizible:
Originally posted by zarat.us:
Is this the bottle you're referring to?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1548723050

And the plot thickens. Have you tried duplicating the bottle?

Edit your save file as suggested. The big question is how you get the second date...
MrInvizible Oct 31, 2018 @ 1:19pm 
Originally posted by Velocity Squid:
Originally posted by MrInvizible:

And the plot thickens. Have you tried duplicating the bottle?

Edit your save file as suggested. The big question is how you get the second date...


Oh my god I didn't know that was real XD I think we may be able to confirm that this does not relate to the other clues so far. Unless of course, there are other ways we can edit the save file.
MrInvizible Oct 31, 2018 @ 4:15pm 
So just to add to our current findings: I did notice that in the save file, there is a place for Sidequest trackers. One of which being Catarina's tarot cards (which by the way, if you want to save time, you can manipulate to get The Inn card without having to play The Walk twice, handy) another being Shrewd Glasses, another being Free Vallamir, and, of course, another being The Locket.

After some tests, it seems that the intVal for locket is 2 when you bring the locket to Wizarro. On a hunch, I decided to change the value to 3 and talk to him again, but there is no reaction. No reaction at 4 either.
jacksonmills Oct 31, 2018 @ 4:27pm 
I'm not sure if this is a bug or not but I found the Inn card, finished the game, and played Walk again only to find I no longer had the card.

Would be nice to know what Katarina says about it.
jacksonmills Oct 31, 2018 @ 4:34pm 
@zarat.us Yep. Is there a use for it? I already went on a date... I think.

Also re: Wizarro's Cipher, waiting until the time runs out in Combat Arena X does nothing , I waited the whole 17 minutes and the handle for the player just went off the screen. I also tried to go off screen and nothing happened.
MrInvizible Oct 31, 2018 @ 8:36pm 
Originally posted by jacksonmills:
@zarat.us Yep. Is there a use for it? I already went on a date... I think.

Also re: Wizarro's Cipher, waiting until the time runs out in Combat Arena X does nothing , I waited the whole 17 minutes and the handle for the player just went off the screen. I also tried to go off screen and nothing happened.


Tried that too. I was really hoping I was on to something there. Also I tried finishing the fight as soon as the handle hit the end of the red zone, still nothing.

Guess you could say Wizarro really... flew off the handle there... :D im so sorry

Also Catarina doesn't say anything too relevant to The Hunt, as far as I can tell.
Last edited by MrInvizible; Oct 31, 2018 @ 8:37pm
Vexenie Nov 1, 2018 @ 1:08pm 
Originally posted by Rocketlex:
If this is the thread for possible secrets regarding the Endervale, I'll repost a discovery I made that I posted in the Symbols thead, since it could be more relevant here.

Via convoluted means, it's possible to die during the tutorial fight of Secrets of Legendaria and therefore not kill Moji.

Using Entervale, trigger the slime fight instead of the tutorial fight. At the start of the fight, use your Book to get the advanced spells. Now, you want to end this fight with 15 HP OR LESS. The slimes deal 20 to you and you can deal 15 to yourself, so math that out however you can make it work.

Once the slime fight ends, Legendaria will be reset, but you'll still have your advanced spells AND the HP you ended the slime fight with. Now, start the tutorial fight as normal and immediately use Blood Pact to shave off your last few HP. You'll die, and...this happens.

https://imgur.com/a/FNQ7EU6

Now things get weird. The dialogue runs as though you defeated Moji, but the chat on the right is a little different only saying "Good night sweet prince" and making sad faces instead of calling you a murderer

I don't get it, in imgur, is it a picture or a video, because if it's a video, I can't watch iy
MrInvizible Nov 1, 2018 @ 3:12pm 
Originally posted by Vexenie:
Originally posted by Rocketlex:
If this is the thread for possible secrets regarding the Endervale, I'll repost a discovery I made that I posted in the Symbols thead, since it could be more relevant here.

Via convoluted means, it's possible to die during the tutorial fight of Secrets of Legendaria and therefore not kill Moji.

Using Entervale, trigger the slime fight instead of the tutorial fight. At the start of the fight, use your Book to get the advanced spells. Now, you want to end this fight with 15 HP OR LESS. The slimes deal 20 to you and you can deal 15 to yourself, so math that out however you can make it work.

Once the slime fight ends, Legendaria will be reset, but you'll still have your advanced spells AND the HP you ended the slime fight with. Now, start the tutorial fight as normal and immediately use Blood Pact to shave off your last few HP. You'll die, and...this happens.

https://imgur.com/a/FNQ7EU6

Now things get weird. The dialogue runs as though you defeated Moji, but the chat on the right is a little different only saying "Good night sweet prince" and making sad faces instead of calling you a murderer

I don't get it, in imgur, is it a picture or a video, because if it's a video, I can't watch iy

It just shows that the stream chat changes if you kill yourself during the fight with moji.
zarat.us Nov 1, 2018 @ 3:59pm 
Theory:

Wizarro points out that the locket message is some form of communication between creators.

He also says it's a "promise" or "commitment".

It's the agreement Lionel signs with Lou Natas of Gamefuna.
jacksonmills Nov 1, 2018 @ 4:07pm 
I'm not sure, I actually think it's a remnant of Carla and Lionel's childhood, when they were still friends, and is part of the reason why Lionel hired Carla; they promised to make games together. I can't help but think that there also might have been feelings between them. She put up with him through SoL only for him to rob his employees blind and bail. So the locket was "discarded" in the game. How the other half got in Gameworks is another question.
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