Caught a cheater, recorded him using aimbot + have steam profile... now what?

[yodalr]

Was playing Natural Selection the today, and you just know when someone is too good, so I started to spec him and recorded this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BT0nVzn3FY&feature=youtu.be

If you watch the video, you can see him using aimbot/trackbot. Also he doesn't seem to be very pro NS2 player as he is placing mines while the gorge is pilebombing him.

His steam profile is here: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/[U:1:83731693]

Happened in Wooza 42 slot server where 10 are for specs.

For the lazy, just go to 1:18[http//%26quot%3Bhttps] to see the crosshair jump.

[Chocapix]

Now what ? You can just report him with this video but I'm not sure that will proove the cheat.
Maybe he cheated, maybe not, I can t tell you even with this video. I know guys who can aim like crazy but idk that guy and the profile link is broken.

What was his accruacy at the end of the round ?

[Maxamus]

Hmm, with this type off game would need more than 1 video, (Unless its super duper 360/180 jump spinning kills) with this game, a twitch shooter - you can hear aliens before you see them etc, you would need more proof, dont get me wrong on that video alone one could easily say that he is, but again i have seen players that play alot like that, off course better, and not stupid enough to drop mines at a door way while a gorge is bile bombing,

Need more Videos. Need more proof.

[Phillip]

Originally posted by Chocapix:

What was his accruacy at the end of the round ?

I'm 99% positive all the NS2 cheats floating around have some sort of accuracy limiter. I almost never see marine players shoot above 35% accuracy, even though it's obvious some of them are cheating.

Somehow their aimbots must be configured to miss a percentage of shots if the target is moving fast enough.

Why the hack creators bother to put in an accuracy limiter is strange to me, but I suppose even they realize the game would die completely if people were shooting with 100% accuracy, and a completely dead game = no sales for them.

[TheBlackDog]

Its pretty hard to agree or disagree, hard to tell. Those skulks were very easy targets to hit, barely moving around or moving in predictable patterns. Any good marine could easily hit them, I could probably. You'd be surprised, as the guys above have said, how good some people are at marine. That said, that crosshair jump at 1:18 was quite an interesting piece of evidence, but we would need more. I mean, if you could spectate someone using a mod menu like in COD ;)

[Maxamus]

Originally posted by Pfreece:

Originally posted by Chocapix:

What was his accruacy at the end of the round ?

I'm 99% positive all the NS2 cheats floating around have some sort of accuracy limiter. I almost never see marine players shoot above 35% accuracy, even though it's obvious some of them are cheating.

Somehow their aimbots must be configured to miss a percentage of shots if the target is moving fast enough.

Why the hack creators bother to put in an accuracy limiter is strange to me, but I suppose even they realize the game would die completely if people were shooting with 100% accuracy, and a completely dead game = no sales for them.

Ahh what? this game has a spread for the weapons (Expect the Pistol) so it "can" be done, you can get past 35% i have seen marine players going past that, but take into account, shooting gorges will increase your Acc alot as they are alot bigger than skulks so more bullets will land.
So again, bullet spread, when shooting skulks, great players can get 25-30% easy, add in killing gorges and that will only go up, fighting lerks can go down slightly and fades also,
Onos well, it has a different ACC for fighting onos.

[|-DMD-| Rusty]

Rusty here - Server operator for DMD. I'll take a look at this video. As a 15 year veteran it takes a keen eye. I appreciate all the comments and most of you are correct. But some of us players do have 4,000+ hours. But first thing in the morning, I won't even shoot a 20% acc.

[Tinki]

Yep he has an aimbot, but like you see even some veteran players don't want to denounce it, even if it's obvious (3:17)
Keep in mind that some players will say "nah the game is like that" because they use WH or aimbot themselve. In the comp scene it took 1 year to ban an aimboter, and they banned him for 6 months. The suspicion around some players is so strong that everyone thinks they use wallhack or aimbot@30% but no one say anything in public, cause you can't prove it.

If you want an answer/solution it will come from the server owners.

[Tinki]

Originally posted by Pfreece:

I'm 99% positive all the NS2 cheats floating around have some sort of accuracy limiter. I almost never see marine players shoot above 35% accuracy, even though it's obvious some of them are cheating.

Somehow their aimbots must be configured to miss a percentage of shots if the target is moving fast enough.

Why the hack creators bother to put in an accuracy limiter is strange to me, but I suppose even they realize the game would die completely if people were shooting with 100% accuracy, and a completely dead game = no sales for them.

Yes they can configure it. In september 2014 one newish comptetitive player had constant 45% in 4 or 5 PCW. Admins started to spec him in PCW and said "it's weird, very weird, but no proof, can't do anything". Now he's still playing but with a constant 30%. So yeah, constant high accuracy wathever the server, the team, the round lenght is something fishy and sadly one of the only way to speculate an aimbot. Too many false positive. Wallhack are easier to spot but that only means you won't trap his lifeforms/marine, if he sucks it won't be as harmfull as an aimbot.

[TheBlackDog]

Honestly, I didnt think that NS2 had hackers/cheaters. This has really opened up my eyes, no wonder I die so much lol

[TheBlackDog]

After taking a 2nd and even 3rd look, it is actually quite obvious that he has some sort of aimbot, slight tracking of targets when he turns around especially around 3:00. I've had my fair share of modders, especially on COD BO2 on PS3, so you can pick out slight aimbot and whatnot

[Tinki]

They aren't that many, the community is quite small, no need to be too paranoiac with every top score board :)

[Maxamus]

The more i watch it the more you can see little things, but i still stick by and say i would like to see some more videos before i jump on the boat, BUT from watching it, i can clearly spot that when in system - he kills skulks like there nothing, some skulks quite hard to hit, but dose not miss a beat. When he pushes into the hive, he starts to miss - missing shots he was doing so easy in system.

Again still need more videos to watch, but it is very suspect....

[Chocapix]

The big thing is also the mines like you said. I have never seen such a good aimer put such stupid mines ...

[Joe Cool]

Originally posted by Maxamus:

you can hear aliens before you see them

This to me sounds like an excuse a hacker would use.

I mean yeah you can hear aliens before you see them, and you can even be pretty damn close to being on target with where they are when you round the corner... but if they're on the other side of a wall/obstacle you can't pinpoint their EXACT position to aim DIRECTLY at the CENTER of their body just on sound alone... and a lot of these suspicious "god-like" players do exactly that.

It reminds me of back when I played CoD... Would run around with the Ghost/Cold Blooded/etc perk (that keeps you hidden from UAV) with a silencer... Call out a hacker and the most common response was "I saw you on UAV" when you know for 100% fact that you don't EVER show on UAV.


All that being said. I used to play HL2 with some ridiculously good competitive players who could dominate everyone and end games with like 150 kills and 3 deaths, yet never once did I ever suspect them of cheating, because it didn't look suspicous. Stuff like you see in that video looks extremely extremely suspicious. Especially the locking DEAD on target before seeing them.. Not just aiming in their direction, but being DEAD ON... yeah right.

[Maxamus]

Originally posted by MoFo™:

Originally posted by Maxamus:

you can hear aliens before you see them

This to me sounds like an excuse a hacker would use.

I mean yeah you can hear aliens before you see them, and you can even be pretty on target with where they are when you round the corner... but if they're on the other side of a wall you can't pinpoint their EXACT position to aim DIRECTLY at the CENTER of their body BEFORE you see them... and a lot of these suspicious "god-like" players do exactly that.

It reminds me of back when I played CoD... Would run around with the Ghost/Cold Blooded/etc perk (that keeps you hidden from UAV) with a silencer... Call out a hacker and the most common response was "I saw you on UAV" when you know for 100% fact that you don't EVER show on UAV.


All that being said. I used to play HL2 with some ridiculously good competitive players who could dominate everyone and end games with like 150 kills and 3 deaths, yet never once did I ever suspect them of cheating, because it didn't look suspicous. Stuff like you see in that video looks extremely suspicious. Especially the locking DEAD on target before seeing them.. Not just aiming in their direction, but being DEAD ON... yeah right.

But in this game sound makes up for at least 60% of what you need to learn, Your right, it wont pinpoint EXACTLY where that alien is, but i bet you can pretty much guess with experience where he is / going to be. Also if you have 7.1 surround sound, it makes listening / pinpointing based on sound where they will be.
But like i said from watching this video and how he plays, he just dont seem as if he would be at that kind off level by making those rookie mistakes.
still would like to see another Video....