Best way to start a kingdom?

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Should I become a vassal first before I try to capture anything on my own. And how well should my army be equiped before I attack anything.

[White, the Loiterer]

First, you want to be on the good side of as many lords as possible.

Make sure you have plenty of right to rule.

Make sure you have a mighty army that is ready to fight plenty of siege defense battles.

Become a vassal and bide your time until you manage to get yours hands on a Town or Castle that fits your needs. (Town recommended).

Empty the garrison, leave the kingdom your aligned to, get your relation with said kingdom low enough to be able to besiege the Town/Castle with the empty garrison so you can just walk in.

Hunker down and prepare for the storm.

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Originally posted by WarlordOfRome:

First, you want to be on the good side of as many lords as possible.

Make sure you have plenty of right to rule.

Make sure you have a mighty army that is ready to fight plenty of siege defense battles.

Become a vassal and bide your time until you manage to get yours hands on a Town or Castle that fits your needs. (Town recommended).

Empty the garrison, leave the kingdom your aligned to, get your relation with said kingdom low enough to be able to besiege the Town/Castle with the empty garrison so you can just walk in.

Hunker down and prepare for the storm.

How do I get on the good side with other lords and do I really need to become a vassal. Is there no other way?

[White, the Loiterer]

Originally posted by nosuchname:

Originally posted by WarlordOfRome:

First, you want to be on the good side of as many lords as possible.

Make sure you have plenty of right to rule.

Make sure you have a mighty army that is ready to fight plenty of siege defense battles.

Become a vassal and bide your time until you manage to get yours hands on a Town or Castle that fits your needs. (Town recommended).

Empty the garrison, leave the kingdom your aligned to, get your relation with said kingdom low enough to be able to besiege the Town/Castle with the empty garrison so you can just walk in.

Hunker down and prepare for the storm.

How do I get on the good side with other lords and do I really need to become a vassal. Is there no other way?

There are many ways to get lords to like you, these include:

- Doing missions for them.

- Fighting alongside them.

- Saving them from a battle they would have almost certainly lost.

- Rescuing them from captivity.

- Taking their side when they're quarreling with another lord.


You don't HAVE to become a vassal and get lords to like you before making your move. Though you will have to wait a bit before lords will come to your court and offer to serve you, also you will have to take your first Town/Castle by force.

And getting married will boost your right to rule but you need to be a vassal.

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Originally posted by WarlordOfRome:

Originally posted by nosuchname:

How do I get on the good side with other lords and do I really need to become a vassal. Is there no other way?

There are many ways to get lords to like you, these include:

- Doing missions for them.

- Fighting alongside them.

- Saving them from a battle they would have almost certainly lost.

- Rescuing them from captivity.

- Taking their side when they're quarreling with another lord.


You don't HAVE to become a vassal and get lords to like you before making your move. Though you will have to wait a bit before lords will come to your court and offer to serve you, also you will have to take your first Town/Castle by force.

And getting married will boost your right to rule but you need to be a vassal.

If I stop being a vassal do I lose honor or go to war if the faction I abandoned. Also wont I be losing all my towns and villages if I leave a faction.

[Tuidjy]

First of all, there are two different ways of starting a kingdom, assuming you're already a vassal:
1) You collect the best men from your garrisons in your army, you walk up to your liege, you renounce your oath, you lose your fiefs, you remain at peace with your old faction, you start a war with a weak faction, and you take a fief, preferably a city.
2) You take enemy cities and castles and ask for them, until your king refuses to give one to you. You enter open rebellion, you keep your fiefs and garrisons, but are at war with your old faction and all of its enemies.

And you do not have to be a vassal.
3) You can just gather a strong force, and take over a castle while an unsworn, landless knight, or even a commoner.

In all cases, you better be ready to deal with huge expeditionary forces by the existing kingdoms. The best ways to have some breathing room is to do (2) with huge garrisons stockpiled in your existing fiefs, or do (3) on the last remaining fief of a nearly defeated faction.

[Berrik]

I know this has nothing to do with this thread and i apologize for that ,but after you beat your main game and/or learn most if not all you can about the native game try looking up two mods which are the floris mod "which pretty much makes the native game better in everyway but with some issues with faction unit balancing" or if you feel the game is too easy or want something different try prophesy of pendor a full conversion mod that changes the map units ect. entierly and makes it feel like a whole new game .Just for when your bored of native or the xpacs and want something fresh.I may not have much time on steam but on my retail version i have about 700 hours but i wanted the steam version to play with friends and further support the devs.

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Thanks for all the help so far. Got myself a castle now, but I have trouble finding new recruits

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I am doing quite well at the moment, captured two castles on my own with my 60 swadian knights army. I just need more right to rule before I can declare myself independent, I only have 6 right to rule so far.

[EmotionallyBroken]

Originally posted by nosuchname:

Should I become a vassal first before I try to capture anything on my own. And how well should my army be equiped before I attack anything.

using cheats can save you a lot of redundant timesinks. I think there might be one that boost relations. I reccommend reading a guide for starting your own kingdom, and about 200+ men, maybe less if you want to gamble leaving your castle empty when you take your 2nd. You can also make it easier to start by lowering damage taken under options.

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Originally posted by ImOnlyOneMan:

Originally posted by nosuchname:

Should I become a vassal first before I try to capture anything on my own. And how well should my army be equiped before I attack anything.

using cheats can save you a lot of redundant timesinks. I think there might be one that boost relations. I reccommend reading a guide for starting your own kingdom, and about 200+ men, maybe less if you want to gamble leaving your castle empty when you take your 2nd. You can also make it easier to start by lowering damage taken under options.

Good thing is that my swadian knights do so much damage, I took a castle with 200 men strong garrision with only 40 knights and a few men at arms.So capturing castles wont be problem anymore, since I almost got 60 knights now, I just need more right to rule. I am currently aiming on getting more knight, but damn are they expensive.

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Originally posted by nosuchname:

Originally posted by ImOnlyOneMan:

using cheats can save you a lot of redundant timesinks. I think there might be one that boost relations. I reccommend reading a guide for starting your own kingdom, and about 200+ men, maybe less if you want to gamble leaving your castle empty when you take your 2nd. You can also make it easier to start by lowering damage taken under options.

Good thing is that my swadian knights do so much damage, I took a castle with 200 men strong garrision with only 40 knights and a few men at arms.So capturing castles wont be problem anymore, since I almost got 60 knights now, I just need more right to rule. I am currently aiming on getting more knight, but damn are they expensive.

Were you playing on easy?Becuase usually they all get shot ot ♥♥♥♥ by arrows if you dont have a lot of ranged units.

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Originally posted by ImOnlyOneMan:

Originally posted by nosuchname:

Good thing is that my swadian knights do so much damage, I took a castle with 200 men strong garrision with only 40 knights and a few men at arms.So capturing castles wont be problem anymore, since I almost got 60 knights now, I just need more right to rule. I am currently aiming on getting more knight, but damn are they expensive.

Were you playing on easy?Becuase usually they all get shot ot ♥♥♥♥ by arrows if you dont have a lot of ranged units.

Well, the enemy barely had any archers in both cases, mostly footmen and warriors.
Besides, I don't like using archers anyway because they die so quick and knights are much better during open field battles.

[Tuidjy]

Originally posted by nosuchname:

Originally posted by ImOnlyOneMan:

Were you playing on easy?Becuase usually they all get shot ot ♥♥♥♥ by arrows if you dont have a lot of ranged units.

Well, the enemy barely had any archers in both cases, mostly footmen and warriors.
Besides, I don't like using archers anyway because they die so quick and knights are much better during open field battles.

Unless you are playing at full difficulty, heavily armored troops are nigh invulnerable to the enemy. You will not be experiencing the game to any extend, because no enemy soldier can reliably damage Swadian knights, Nord huscarls, or Rhodock sergeants, not even the above mentioned units themselves.

When your friends and you are taking half or even quarter damage, you're playing another game.

[LSD]

I've been playing since like 2008 maybe? Still never made my own kingdom :(
I figure i know the requirements and stuff, just never got round to it, and never decided how i want to start.

Kinda hijacking, but was wondering: i haven't done claimant wars either. How much impact would joining a claimant have once i'm done with them and renounce my oath? I figure i'll have a high rep with the new ruler. Will that rep stop them declaring wars on me? Or is their chance of attacking arbitrary?

[terror923]

best way to start a kingdom :

join a kingdom

during your stay try to get the lords of the kingdom to like you once you have like half of them above 50

tell your king that you want out of the faction

go to the faction you WERE NOT IN and capture a castle on your own
(if you cannot do this dont bother starting one)
as if you clash with the kingdom you use troops in your troops will desert you after awhile due to loss of morale

once you get said castle fill it with as much troops as you can (even junk ones) the more troops it holds the less likely any kingdom will attack it

check castle frequently to see if any lords want to join you (every lord has different personalities i wont go in depth but some will clash with others)

then from there expand