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Sledge Hammer! Aug 11, 2016 @ 3:02pm
Quantum Break does not run on Intel Core2Quad processors
And by "does not run" I don't mean that it stutters or runs poorly. You literally can not run the game on those processors. The game refuses to launch and gives you an error message that your CPU is not supported because it lacks POPCNT instruction set.

The game initially refused to run on AMD processors due to a lack of SSE 4.2 instruction set. Remedy patched out that requirement but has refused up to now to remove the POPCNT limitation.

It is unprecedented for a game developer to lock out certain processors from running a game. If my Core2Quad can run Mirror's Edge Catalyst, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Fallout Out 4, etc., all on high settings, there's no reason to block me from playing a game I paid for on the Windows Store. I doubt they will remove this limitation from the Steam version. :steamsalty:
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Colts Sep 14, 2016 @ 1:12am 
Originally posted by CrIsCo TeH KlOwN:
Not sure I get why everyone is attacking the OP. How does it affect any of you, if remedy goes ahead and allows this game to boot on a system that has a core2quad cpu? How exactly does that hurt you? I mean, I'm seriously asking for an actual answer. Not just some answer that just amounts to, "cause it's stooopid". Seems like a crime here to ask for anything that the developer can easily accomodate.

The game runs a like crap on modern quad core cpu's and highend gpu's the core2quad would obviously be incapable of running the game. Something OP fails to understand is if you want to play Console Ports you gotta update your hardware to match console hardware or better. Core 2 quad is almost 9 year old cpu first quad core ever put out lol.

It would be the exact samething as complaining to a developer asking why they only release their game on ps4 and not ps3. The game is a pure console port unoptimized for PC. The minimum requirements are much higher than a core 2 quad. Minimum CPU Requirement is Intel Core i5-4460, 2.70GHz
- http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/623/Intel_Core_2_Quad_Q9550_vs_Intel_Core_i5_i5-6400.html

It would be a different story if the Core 2 quad just barely missed minimum requirements but the simply truth is the CPU required to run Quantum Break in a resolution of 720p@30fps is 90% better in multithreaded performance than the core 2 quad. Game would fry that CPU before the game would run with a Core2quad...

Originally posted by Sledge Hammer!:
Originally posted by 80TCS:
That's not sloppy coding... it's probably just a necessity and, trying to "fix it", meaning finding workarounds or emulating it would not only be time and money consuming but also more than likely would involve a performance penalty...

Every other developer on the Steam best sellers list has no problem making their games compatible on a wide variety of systems. Remedy's poor port of Quantum Break from Xbox to PC is the only one I've seen that can't "fix it".

That's because it is a pure console port I swear it was ported to windows 10 store added customization settings and that is it and shipped out. Other developers support a wider range of PC Gamers better with lower settings for users such as yourself unfortunately remedy chose not to do this. This would have involved them do more work than just port the game in the beginning. As they would of had to make lower quality textures etc..
Last edited by Colts; Sep 14, 2016 @ 1:32am
Bogan Sep 14, 2016 @ 1:13am 
Originally posted by dcG | Colts:
Originally posted by NSA Carnage:
Good for you. I should care why?
Maybe you should fix your own PC before you spread your bs all over the forums. Good day a-hole.
My pc is fine buddy. I have a 60hz monitor so anything more than 60fps is worthless. Maybe you should settle down and seek help for your anger issues before jumping to baseless assumptions.
Colts Sep 14, 2016 @ 1:14am 
Oh I see you woke up on right side of the bed today, good stuff. Your anger is all over this thread not mine.
KillingArts Sep 14, 2016 @ 2:30am 
Originally posted by dcG | Colts:
The game runs a like crap on modern quad core cpu's and highend gpu's the core2quad would obviously be incapable of running the game. Something OP fails to understand is if you want to play Console Ports you gotta update your hardware to match console hardware or better. Core 2 quad is almost 9 year old cpu first quad core ever put out lol.

It would be the exact samething as complaining to a developer asking why they only release their game on ps4 and not ps3. The game is a pure console port unoptimized for PC. The minimum requirements are much higher than a core 2 quad. Minimum CPU Requirement is Intel Core i5-4460, 2.70GHz
- http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/623/Intel_Core_2_Quad_Q9550_vs_Intel_Core_i5_i5-6400.html

It would be a different story if the Core 2 quad just barely missed minimum requirements but the simply truth is the CPU required to run Quantum Break in a resolution of 720p@30fps is 90% better in multithreaded performance than the core 2 quad. Game would fry that CPU before the game would run with a Core2quad...
the game runs like crap because it is so demanding on the gpu. i am not saying the cpu is not important, but the gpu is the bottleneck here, not the cpu. so it really might be possible to get ~30fps with an older cpu, as long as the gpu is powerful enough. while i personally would consider this unplayable, i know many people are fine with 30fps or even slightly below. so my opinion is: let them play. don't prevent them from playing at all, if it's not necessary.

btw, minimum requirements by the dev are completely arbitrary most of the time. we all should know that by now. ;)
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Sledge Hammer! Sep 14, 2016 @ 1:07pm 
Originally posted by dcG | Colts:
Game would fry that CPU before the game would run with a Core2quad

Don't be ridiculous. I've seen the gameplay videos on YouTube, there's nothing spectacular about Quantum Break. I play much more demanding games without a problem. You've really bought into the hype that tries to excuse QB's poor coding and lack of optimization.
Damien Azreal Sep 15, 2016 @ 8:42am 
Originally posted by Sledge Hammer!:

You're not going to get any sense from the so-called "computer experts" who love to post lengthy responses that totally miss the point of the original post.

Remedy intentionally added the CPU check into Quantum Break because they were scared that older CPU's would suffer performance problems. They know exactly where that CPU check is in the code and could easily and quickly remove it. Remedy is the only company currently putting a CPU block into their games because of performance anxiety.

That doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter what Remedy did with the code for the game. It doesn't matter how they chose to handled system requirements for the title.

What matters is that the released and listed SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS for the game list a minimum CPU that is newer then yours.
You personally decided to ignore that information and take a shot in the dark. With no solid information that it would work.

It doesn't matter what other games or other studios did or did not do. That has no bearing on what happened here.

What happened... you ignored the information released to inform you of what was needed to run the game. You bought a game knowing fully well certain hardware in your PC was under the minimum requirements.
You have no one to blame but yourself.

Yet, so stubborn you are trying to blame Remedy.
As if they lied to you. When they didn't. They didn not release system requirements listing your CPU. They never once said "Oh yeah, it'll run on a Core2Quad CPU"...

You made the decision. You ignored the information put out there to let people know if their PCs can run a title.
And you did so under the ignorance that "Well, this game can run on it, so anything can". Suck it up and admit your mistake.
CrIsCo TeH KlOwN Sep 15, 2016 @ 8:53am 
Originally posted by Damien Azreal:
Originally posted by Sledge Hammer!:

You're not going to get any sense from the so-called "computer experts" who love to post lengthy responses that totally miss the point of the original post.

Remedy intentionally added the CPU check into Quantum Break because they were scared that older CPU's would suffer performance problems. They know exactly where that CPU check is in the code and could easily and quickly remove it. Remedy is the only company currently putting a CPU block into their games because of performance anxiety.

That doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter what Remedy did with the code for the game. It doesn't matter how they chose to handled system requirements for the title.

What matters is that the released and listed SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS for the game list a minimum CPU that is newer then yours.
You personally decided to ignore that information and take a shot in the dark. With no solid information that it would work.

It doesn't matter what other games or other studios did or did not do. That has no bearing on what happened here.

What happened... you ignored the information released to inform you of what was needed to run the game. You bought a game knowing fully well certain hardware in your PC was under the minimum requirements.
You have no one to blame but yourself.

Yet, so stubborn you are trying to blame Remedy.
As if they lied to you. When they didn't. They didn not release system requirements listing your CPU. They never once said "Oh yeah, it'll run on a Core2Quad CPU"...

You made the decision. You ignored the information put out there to let people know if their PCs can run a title.
And you did so under the ignorance that "Well, this game can run on it, so anything can". Suck it up and admit your mistake.


If it doesn't run, it doesn't run. Why a restriction on what CPU you are attempting to run the game, that's the point. You are mentally stuck on whether or not he can run it, based on posted system requirements, that you are not considering the actual issue: The CPU lock.

Stop being confined on that mental box of yours. If it runs at 1 fps or 30 fps on that CPU, so what. The game can have posted requirements, but you are not guaranteed to be able to run it if you attempt to do it. It should end there, locking the game to certain hardware is not necessary, because if it's not playable, it's not playable!
Sledge Hammer! Sep 15, 2016 @ 9:22am 
Originally posted by CrIsCo TeH KlOwN:
Stop being confined on that mental box of yours. If it runs at 1 fps or 30 fps on that CPU, so what.

The fan boys have been stuck in that mental loop for months, from when I first raised this issue in the Remedy forums in April and they came charging like White Knights to defend their favorite developer's honor.
Originally posted by Sledge Hammer!:
Originally posted by CrIsCo TeH KlOwN:
Stop being confined on that mental box of yours. If it runs at 1 fps or 30 fps on that CPU, so what.

The fan boys have been stuck in that mental loop for months, from when I first raised this issue in the Remedy forums in April and they came charging like White Knights to defend their favorite developer's honor.

You've been at this for months? Wow. You're the new MLK. Fighting injustice wherever it is. What a great way to spend your life's time. Using that time to have fun doing something else would be a complete waste. Yep yep yep!
LauriRMD Sep 16, 2016 @ 4:32am 
PC was added as a platform in the middle of Quantum Break's development, as mentioned by Phil Spencer in an interview. Due to this the system requirements are more modern than usual.

I understand it can be frustrating when owners of 8+ years old CPUs can't test the game performance themselves. Based on QA reports such hardware doesn't produce a playable experience.

The instruction set missing from Intel Core 2 CPUs is used in Quantum Break's renderer, and currently there are no plans of rewriting it. As the thread title basically says it all, and the discussion itself seems to be more about insulting each other, I'm locking this thread.

So long, and thanks for all the POPCorn.
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