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some moron Jul 8, 2019 @ 10:08am
Drones drop waste to NEAREST location?
If I build extractor A and a waste pit B and extrator C and waste pit D, I would hope the drones would drop the waste at the nearest pit, but instead they will travel the max distance from C to B. I think the default rule is to drop at the first drop location built that is not yet full? Or the last place where any drone dropped waste? Or something like that. But is there a way/mod to make them drop at the nearest possible one.

If not, does anyone where know the logic of where they drop the waste, knowing the rules might at least help me plan ahead.

Besides the obvious of creating a commander that has only the range of the extractor and the pit within it's range.
Last edited by some moron; Jul 8, 2019 @ 10:09am
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Emmote Jul 8, 2019 @ 12:09pm 
I'm fairly sure they do fill nearest to the source - at least that's what I've seen in every game I've played.
Did you set one of them to request a certain amount and the other to request less or 0 - because that takes precedence.

Edit:
That said if there are more than one depot/waste site within range they do like to keep their stock equalised with each other - assuming they have the same request amount.
Last edited by Emmote; Jul 8, 2019 @ 12:11pm
some moron Jul 8, 2019 @ 2:35pm 
No I haven't touched the request amount. But maybe that's what they are doing, trying to fill them equally. I've almost never seen them go to the correct one. It seems to me 100% they go to the furthest one away.
Okay I just watched one pass the dump with 26 waste in it and walk very far to the one with 86. I didn't change any settings on the dumps. I think I did place the 86 dump first. I know I had a commander next to the 26 with a restricted range to try to be efficient, so that's why it has some in it. So it seems to me, drones always take waste to the first dump that still has room in it. That stinks because it's the opposite of efficient.
I need the range to include other stuff so I can't shrink it. So the drones are backwards. They should go to closest dump.
Emmote Jul 8, 2019 @ 3:11pm 
Why do you really care though? Unless the hub has a high load it really doesn't make any difference - and even if it does you can just put more drones in the hub.
Yes it's inefficient but in the grand scheme of things it makes little difference.
BGR Jul 8, 2019 @ 4:05pm 
My colony produces and uses a large amount of waster rock and how the Drones divide up the waste rock among my numerous dump sites is not important as long as the rock gets to where I need it when I need it.
some moron Jul 8, 2019 @ 9:28pm 
I have more important things (such as research) to spend my hard-gained money on, instead of drones and the fuel. I don't have surplus drones. I usually run 6 until my second dome. Some of them are held together with duct tape. So, as you say, with few drones inefficiencies do matter.
BGR Jul 8, 2019 @ 10:35pm 
Originally posted by some moron:
I have more important things (such as research) to spend my hard-gained money on, instead of drones and the fuel. I don't have surplus drones. I usually run 6 until my second dome. Some of them are held together with duct tape. So, as you say, with few drones inefficiencies do matter.

I would not take drones for granted, without them everything stops and the colony dies.
Blake Walsh Jul 9, 2019 @ 4:19am 
Drones are pretty stupid when it comes to shuttling waste rock across the base to a far away pile of waste rock.

However they won't work outside of the radius of their drone controller, like if you have a single drop hub, and on either sides of the drone hub's radius are extractors, you can have drones doing the waste rock haul of shame across the entire radius to bring waste rock to a pile on the other side, they're not always going to do it but sometimes they are because they prefer to complete waste rock mini-piles over starting a new one.

But if you manipulate radiuses so that far apart extractors aren't sharing a controller then it's completely not a problem because drones have no access to waste rock piles they shouldn't go to.

Generally skilled players go with RC Commanders in the early game because they don't use electronics maintenance and you can relocate them to accelerate construction of domes and stuff, you can also park them in dust radius of extractors and send them out into the world to do tasks like landscape a ramp or rescue a damaged Explorer. I tend to buy at least a couple of RC Commanders even for a poor sponsor, then my third Drone Controller would probably be a Drone Hub for its larger radius. With appropriate placement of Commanders you shouldn't have issues with drones hauling waste rock excessive distances.

It's also pretty common to not use Water Extractors, since Vaporators don't require the attention of drones and just require the odd couple of metal to keep operating, it's often just not really worthwhile exploiting Very Low or Low Quality water deposits because of the drone time they take up and their habit of not working if the Drones go stupid or have better things to do. Even the ability of extractors to work during dust storms is not that great because they still suffer extra machine parts maintenance during the dust storm.
Last edited by Blake Walsh; Jul 9, 2019 @ 4:21am
Emmote Jul 9, 2019 @ 4:49am 
Originally posted by BGR:
Originally posted by some moron:
I have more important things (such as research) to spend my hard-gained money on, instead of drones and the fuel. I don't have surplus drones. I usually run 6 until my second dome. Some of them are held together with duct tape. So, as you say, with few drones inefficiencies do matter.

I would not take drones for granted, without them everything stops and the colony dies.
This.
I couldn't imagine only using 6 drones ever, even in the first Sol. I make sure to have at least 20 asap.
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