Jagged Alliance: Rage!

Jagged Alliance: Rage!

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BigFatLaDy (Banned) Dec 6, 2018 @ 6:58am
10 reasons to not buy the game
I tried to point out the "pros" for this game, but really the only thing i came up with is that they use an action point orientated turn based gameplay and that the name is Jagged Alliance ...

1. Cartoon Graphics
Taste can be different, also you can overlook "old" vs "modern" graphic engines in strategy games. But you cannot give a simple, low effort graphic a free pass. JA2 graphics are "old" they are 2D sprite based, but they are hand crafted with love for details, which means high effort from talented artists. This game looks like a cheap handy game, very blanc and low poly. Unity with some reused assets from Jagged Alliance Online. And to hide this cheap look they turned on filters and the occlusion map to a point where everything looks cartoonish and unreal.

2. No Strategic Map Gameplay
No militia control, no repairing, no doctoring, no teaching/learning, no skyrider, no bobby ray, no squad management and yes no global income from mines.

3. No Global Inventory
If you loved to collect items in an sector or to micromanage your squad before fights, it's all gone. You take everything you had from the last map into the new map. Exchanging items between mercenary is pure pain.

4. Only 6 playable mercenary
Not 52 or 36 also not 24 ... yes you heard it right, just 6 merc you can choose from. No salary management just choose from 6 free merc.

5. No IMP Character or Character Development
Jagged Alliance and the famous imp creation is gone. You cannot make your own mercenary and there is no character development, stats or abilities do not change.

6. Very Small Maps
If you have a claustrophobic disorder, take a huge turn around this game.

7. Bad Voice Acting (At least in German)
A child just lost his parents, is voiced by an aged woman and does not even cry or at least sound emotionally distracted. No, she speaks to us in an totally normal tone. A complete voice directing failure.

8. Bad Developer
Jan Wagner from Cliffhanger Games said in an interview that they went bankrupt because of the failure of jagged alliance online and the shadowrun game they made. They are now down to some core employees and are doing only paid work to keep them alive. No time for "passion" work. They tried to cater more towards an "action" audience with the title "rage" this in it self speaks volumes.

9. Censoring the Fan-Base
The obvious lack of features in this game compared to the other Jagged Alliance games is spinned around (Marketing) by handy games in the way that this is just a "spin-off" and because it is a super creative "spin-off" it should not be compared to the other Jagged Alliance games. That is the explanation from handy games why they move every thread were people are complaining about the lack of features into an sub forum. Normal visitors of the forum probably don't even notice the existence of the subforum. This is the blatant try to get rid of some bad feedback by censoring.

10. Cash Cow / IP Abusing
But why using the name of Jagged Alliance if you censor and ignore the core fanbase? This game is feature low (Spin off) with purpose. They just tried to make a small and quickly developed Jagged Alliance game with Cliffhanger coming out of bancrupcy, to make some quick cash with the jagged alliance license.

Thats how i see it. But if you find a reason to buy or play it, go ahead. This is no hate thread. Do what you love and maybe this is fun for you. If you just have an hour to play every day and you are not looking for a deep game.
Last edited by BigFatLaDy; Dec 7, 2018 @ 4:08am
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Loot Hunter Dec 6, 2018 @ 7:21am 
Do you understand that with #10 basically all other points don't matter? Also, what child are you talking about? If it's a girl at helicopter crash, she looks rather grown up.
Sober777 Dec 6, 2018 @ 7:35am 
You know, sometimes sticking to the same gamepay as the original game can be boring. You need to welcome some ghanges. Just go play the old one, but i' m sure that gets boring too
Dies Irae Dec 6, 2018 @ 7:41am 
Thanks! It is very convincing. I will not buy. Just another exploiting a good name for money.
Last edited by Dies Irae; Dec 6, 2018 @ 7:42am
BigFatLaDy (Banned) Dec 6, 2018 @ 7:45am 
Originally posted by Sober777:
You know, sometimes sticking to the same gamepay as the original game can be boring. You need to welcome some ghanges. Just go play the old one, but i' m sure that gets boring too

What changes? I would welcome changes! I mean i love Jake Solomon! (XCOM Lead Designer) But here? Rage has only less features. Mercs have some super moves like teleportations, thats the only "addition" besides the pesky survival features ...
Last edited by BigFatLaDy; Dec 6, 2018 @ 7:46am
SlickJones Dec 6, 2018 @ 7:51am 
i hate this cartoon♥♥♥♥♥♥:C( also i would have wanted option for turnbase or realtime.... why oh why this game is allways fkd up? why is it so hard to stay legit to originals! ok i want realtime thats not original but still... bitcomposer made mistake by selling it to thqnordic
HG_QA  [developer] Dec 6, 2018 @ 8:11am 
Originally posted by BigFatLaDy:
2. No Strategic Map Gameplay
No militia control, no repairing, no doctoring, no teaching/learning, no skyrider, no bobby ray, no squad management and yes no global income from mines.

3. No Global Inventory
If you loved to collect items in an sector or to micromanage your squad before fights, it's all gone. You take everything you had from the last map into the new map. Exchanging items between mercenary is pure pain.

4. Only 6 playable mercenary
Not 52 or 36 also not 24 ... yes you heard it right, just 6 merc you can choose from. No salary management just choose from 6 free merc.

9. Censoring the fan-base
The obvious lack of features in this game compared to the other Jagged Alliance games is spinned around (Marketing) by handy games in the way that this is just a "spin-off" and because it is a super creative "spin-off" it should not be compared to the other Jagged Alliance games. That is the explanation from handy games why they move every thread were people are complaining about the lack of features into an sub forum. Normal visitors of the forum probably don't even notice the existence of the subforum. This is the blatant try to get rid of some bad feedback by censoring.

2. There is repairing and doctoring (just instant/turn based instead of over time)

3. There is a "global" /shared inventory (not as deep as in JA I know)

4. There are actually 7 mercs

9. Could you please get over that? I now opened a bugreport subforum... wow.. what a censor I am... :steamfacepalm:
Last edited by HG_QA; Dec 6, 2018 @ 8:11am
BigFatLaDy (Banned) Dec 6, 2018 @ 8:21am 
Originally posted by HG_QA:
9. Could you please get over that? I now opened a bugreport subforum... wow.. what a censor I am... :steamfacepalm:
You can't even admit that you did something wrong right? Gosh i realy felt bad writing all of this, because i don't like spreading negativity. I was close to deleting the whole thread. But with this you gave me new motivation, by reminding me what kind of person you are.
Last edited by BigFatLaDy; Dec 6, 2018 @ 8:27am
ShadowAngel Dec 6, 2018 @ 8:29am 
Originally posted by HG_QA:
2. There is repairing and doctoring (just instant/turn based instead of over time)

Yeah, but it's obviously half♥♥♥♥♥♥♥and not well thought out

Originally posted by HG_QA:
3. There is a "global" /shared inventory (not as deep as in JA I know)

And by all accounts, it sucks.

Originally posted by HG_QA:
4. There are actually 7 mercs

WOW! SEVEN! That's an insane amount, wow, really.
Even JA1 in 1995 had how many mercs at your disposal?

Originally posted by HG_QA:
9. Could you please get over that? I now opened a bugreport subforum... wow.. what a censor I am... :steamfacepalm:

Well you do ban people, delete posts, delete topics, made the "♥♥♥♥ you JA Fans!" Section because we people are such a pain in your♥♥♥♥♥for *gasp* wanting a Jagged Alliance game and not some half♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ low budget amateur♥♥♥♥♥♥that a) never should be called Jagged Alliance and b) should be on mobile, not PC because, believe it or not, we PC Gamers expect a lot more depth to our strategy games than whatever this bomb of a "game" delivers.
Kmany Dec 6, 2018 @ 8:53am 
Having only 7 mercs is a mistake.
Non of my favorite mercs are in the game..
holybagpipes Dec 6, 2018 @ 8:59am 
I've seen some recent gameplay of Rage and it's not as bad as it looks. It sounds like some folks want an HD remake of JA 2 1.13.
Last edited by holybagpipes; Dec 6, 2018 @ 8:59am
Kmany Dec 6, 2018 @ 9:01am 
I might give it a chance. Deadly Games was my favorite game in the series..
I just wish they had more mercs to choose from.
ShadowAngel Dec 6, 2018 @ 9:19am 
Originally posted by holybagpipes:
I've seen some recent gameplay of Rage and it's not as bad as it looks. It sounds like some folks want an HD remake of JA 2 1.13.

No, what most people want is another game give the Jagged Alliance name justice. Because after 19 years of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥t, having to face another ♥♥♥♥♥♥, low budget game from amateurs bearing the name is getting too much.
DoughMaster Dec 6, 2018 @ 9:41am 
Originally posted by holybagpipes:
I've seen some recent gameplay of Rage and it's not as bad as it looks. It sounds like some folks want an HD remake of JA 2 1.13.
A JA 2 HD Remake would be more than enough

Still more awesome that 90% of what any other jagged alliance attempt has made...
SlickJones Dec 6, 2018 @ 9:44am 
10min playing this game and i uninstall... Im fan from the start and this♥♥♥♥♥♥aint jagged! there went meny years of waiting! thq u suck!
holybagpipes Dec 6, 2018 @ 9:47am 
Originally posted by ShadowAngel:
Originally posted by holybagpipes:
I've seen some recent gameplay of Rage and it's not as bad as it looks. It sounds like some folks want an HD remake of JA 2 1.13.

No, what most people want is another game give the Jagged Alliance name justice. Because after 19 years of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥t, having to face another ♥♥♥♥♥♥, low budget game from amateurs bearing the name is getting too much.

From what points I've seen folks make about 'justice' being done to the name is a 1-1 copy paste of JA2 with updated visuals(honestly it's muddling as to what kind of visuals they're referring to). I mean good luck trying to develop and sell that in order to make a profit in the current market.
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