Sick of these negative reviews.

[Love and Sorrow]

Honestly, I expected something better since the release of PWI on steam. But so far I've only read the reviews from people, who mostly call themselves "old players" that whine about how bad PWI has become. Really?

I have played PWI since 2009. I can ASSURE you PWI has changed to the better.
1. To all the oldies out there, remember how many mobs we had to kill for a lame reward? 70-75 at high levels. If you had to collect that many items from mobs, then the number increased to almost 100. And what now? The chance of drop is 95-100%, the amount is 10-15. Is that bad? I don't think so. Not mentioning a bunch of new quests that were added a few years later.
2. Myself, I had taken a break in 2014 for a year because I got addicted to other games. I came back just a month before the Steam release, to find out how much easier the gameplay has become.
2a) Roll Call - there used to be an NPC in Archosaur that you had to visit to get this quest, now it is taken automatically on login. Is it bad?
2b) Unique reward - there used to be a box that you can open each 5 levels, which always took up a slot in your inventory, now it is just an icon on your screen. Is that bad?
2c) Quest tracking - there were no autopath at all, especially to quest locations. Now there is (and it is more advanced now, not just straight through walls/obstacles like it used to be)
2d) Leveling up - it took me just 1 day to reach level 42, and a month to reach 100. Can't say I devoted a lot of time daily to the game.
I could add a lot of examples here, it is simply not the point of my post.

3. Now about the other claims found in most of the negative reviews.
3a) P2W. Honestly, who forces people to donate to the game? No one. Yes, you can spend a ton of your time(or not a ton, there are factions for a reason)just to farm G16 (Warsong) gear, or you can just exchange your real money into virtual. There's a ton of ways you can make money in PWI without investing tons of your own. Probably R9 is tougher to make, but if your point is to wreck people in PVP, then I can't recommend you much, as I prefer PVE, and averagely refined G16 will suffice for it.
And yes, no one forces you to buy items directly from boutique, as usually they are far more expensive there. PWI has its own trading features - catshops, commission shops, the auction at the very least.
3b) Overpriced R9R4/G17. As I already stated, no one forces you to donate. PWI wants you to farm this gear, and not just solve the problem of "hey, I want this stuff so badly" just with money. Never thought of that? Think again.
3c) Merging servers - well, here I might be wrong but when ever did PWI disclose the number of active players? AFAIK, never. So the merging might had been done just for the sake of less hardware costs. And yes, if you left the game, it does not mean that "playerbase is shrinking", you are just a tiny bit of that playerbase.

So that is probably it, hopefully this flame stops eventually.

PS: I never said PWI is perfect. I see some flaws in current version, but describing them is, again, not a point of my post.

[.xuxu.@.muzic.]

2009? welp i cant recall when i quit maybe 2012. Endgame grind was insane to even level up. not to mention the materialls for "good" gear.
Still it was a great 3year expirence for me.
Cant say its a bad game but i cant say its great either.
Since you meantioned its possible to get 100 in a month im currious -> did you buy exp boosts?
Otherwise i agree with most of with whats written here.
Also beware, i was a casher back then. sometimes 50€ a month. Wont ever Cash again for P2W. Propably the only big thing i got from the game.

[14]

WOW such tryhards just play P Server like most have, Epic PW is the closest to PWI the almost the same size as PWI.

[Zadarsky]

I also leveled a char to lvl 100 in 1 month with only questing

[Love and Sorrow]

xuxuliz@muzic a écrit :

Since you meantioned its possible to get 100 in a month im currious -> did you buy exp boosts?

No, honestly, you do not need to. Unique reward gives you 20 hyper EXP stones, which is more than enough to reach 100.

[SyrJones]

The game is major P2W, the gap between farmable gear (G16) and R9 is insane. Yea you may say R9 is farmable, but that'll require grinding for about a year for the average player, possibly more considering the grinding limit and most raid groups wont take on anyone without G15+ gear (which is also very difficult to farm),then once you get your R9 gear you still need to boost it up with shards and what not which is just as expensive as getting the gear.

Yea you may enjoy PvE, but after a short while it'll be come very repetative and dull as everyone is farming for their R9 and you'll do the same dungeons the same way, without doing some PvP (where you'll get 1 shot unless RRR9+12) eventually you'll get tired of running the same dungeons day in day out with lack of social community.

So I can understand why Oldies are complaining about the new PWI, they have divided the game between p2w and free play too much and there is too much of a gap between newbies and vets for the newies to want to get involved.

I don't disagree that the new content is awesome, it's just not worth playing unless you get yourself on a private server where there is balance on gear.

[KrazyOne]

Rank 9 gear is not necessary to partake in PVP content. Some Classes don't even use Rank 9 gear to suceed. Rank 9 Gear is not the only option to players, there is the G17 gear that equal if not better if you don't mind rerolling for the right stats for your character.

I've just reached lvl 77 in 1 week just questing. So the idea that it takes forever to level is wrong. Farming is far easier once you have levels. As most of the materials you need for crafting gear is dropped in Dungeons. So I fail to see how it P2W. You can buy everything that is sold in the Boutique from other players. Meaning you never need to spend real cash to get items.

PWI changed how you start the game now. You get access to Aerogear and Mounts in the starting zone. You get access to gear that 100% drop during FB runs of dungeons. So it not like you are left without gear to level up with.

PWI Devs understood the game is old and made the early game easier so people can catch up to the more establish players.

[Tahayan]

Realy? Well take a look ona truth:
New player, begin a game, how wonderfull world..let's start.
Let's do some quest 1st, I'm an archer so let's play!
Ow 100 arrorows only, but OK game don't let me down.
Let's do quests, ow..only 30 coin each quest? Hmm meybe I'll sell this useless HP/MP potions which I picked up from mobs..what 0 coins? WTF? How to gan coins?
... Less then 20 arrows later...
Gosh it's a last quest got only 200 coins...I can buy..10 arrows..
...Afters 10 arrorows gone...
No way to play..got nothing, no coins, no arrows but wait...
I press "O" and "Buy Gold", what 10 gold c.a 10 Euro?, well..ok bought it.
...after 10 gold later...
Yye ye ye got 10 gold, let's sell it on AH, gain 3,9kk coins each gold, mean...39kk coins WOW, now I'm able to buy arrows,
End of the Pay to Win Story!


If you think I'm funny then exlpain to me, point by point how Archer, 100% new player can start this game, to pay 0 Euro on a game!. I'm so curroius!.

This game is a wrost ever, never play this game, it's a waste of your time!
If you don't like to pay lot of Euro/Dollars to this game, LEAVE IT!

[Lucas0wns]

i played the game in 2009 up until this year, this game is pay to win and has gone down hill for years, the first year or so i played was fantastic and over time it got harder and harder for free to play to actually get decent in the game but my stubborn self didn't want to quit since i spent so much time on the game but it's gone to crap, i wouldn't recommend any one to play this game ever, 7 years of wasted time and money, shame we can't get a refund huh? :)

[KrazyOne]

Again you people are wrong about the Pay to Win logic. There no pay to win. Learn what Pay to Win means.

[Zadarsky]

KrazyOne a écrit :

Again you people are wrong about the Pay to Win logic. There no pay to win. Learn what Pay to Win means.

They didnt learn how to gear up without paying real money, they wont learn what "pay to win" means. xD

[Tin]

1.

To you oldie out there, yep, I remember. When people had to fight for leveling, had to learn about skills and gear to stay alive. Now, it's just : open your free packs to get your gold gear, bash some defenceless mobs and shout "up 100". But who still answers "gratz" to that ?


2.

2a) 2b) 2c) Details. Better, yes… Significant ? No !

2d) Level 100 was a joke to reach ? Cool… Now let the game begin !
Reach level 105 : how much time ?
Reach level 105/105/105 : how much more time ?
That's why they made level 100 so easy to reach : because now highest level is reaching level 105 three times…
Gratz, you got 105/105/105 ! Did you get your sky levels ? Did you get full nuema and full Meridian ? If you didn't, just invest more time…
What are levels without skills ? Don't forget to farm your skills !
Now you got all that, come back and tell us how much time you spent…


3.

3a) There is no such thing as “donation”. You BUY zens with real money. As said in many reviews, yes you don't need to pay if you just want to be an average PvE player. You can even be a low-end PvP player without cash. But don't expect to be an average PvP player without spending a lot.

3b) R9r4 ? Lol ! It's a joke, it's a scam, just never do it ! Stats are not better than r9r3 !!! Wait for r9r5.
G17 ? Five levels of G17. If you got r9r3, g17r1 g17r2 and g17r3 are useless. If you got decently refined g16, aim directly for g17r3.
Wanna get g17r5 ? Farm for 3 years everyday…
Don't forget : when you recast, you lose all refine and shards…

3c) When ever did pwE pretend merge had been done just for the sake of less hardware costs ?
I don't need stats from pwe about pwi. They merged because they lost players, They are still losing players. I didn't leave the game so I can see it.

Nimao a écrit :

KrazyOne a écrit :

Again you people are wrong about the Pay to Win logic. There no pay to win. Learn what Pay to Win means.

They didnt learn how to gear up without paying real money, they wont learn what "pay to win" means. xD

Are you kidding ???

Urban dictionary definition of pay-to-win : « Games that let you buy better gear or allow you to make better items than everyone else at a faster rate and then makes the game largely unbalanced even for people who have skill in the game without paying. »

So yes, pwi is definitly P2W.

[Zadarsky]

Tin a écrit :

Nimao a écrit :

They didnt learn how to gear up without paying real money, they wont learn what "pay to win" means. xD

Are you kidding ???

Urban dictionary definition of pay-to-win : « Games that let you buy better gear or allow you to make better items than everyone else at a faster rate and then makes the game largely unbalanced even for people who have skill in the game without paying. »

So yes, pwi is definitly P2W.

That definition is very bad lol.... It is a completly subjective definition.

[Tin]

Nimao a écrit :

Tin a écrit :

Are you kidding ???

Urban dictionary definition of pay-to-win : « Games that let you buy better gear or allow you to make better items than everyone else at a faster rate and then makes the game largely unbalanced even for people who have skill in the game without paying. »

So yes, pwi is definitly P2W.

That definition is very bad lol.... It is a completly subjective definition.

It's a widely accepted definition. 409 thumbs up, 83 thumbs down. Just beat it…
You're sad because it's not your definition… Sorry, you don't define words on your restricted point of view. Majority defines words.

[KrazyOne]

Except one thing your forgetting PWI isn't pay to win. Buying from the cash shop doesn't give you an unfair advantage. That is my point. Anything that in that shop can be bought with out real cash in game from other players. So how is it Pay to Win? All you do is get a 3 to 5 month advantage then you don't have it anymore.

Most of the advantage of paying been removed. You can't Cash your Rank 9 Gear anymore. Only thing that helps you is buying the rep badges, guess what people sell them for coins in game. So please explain to me how its Pay to Win.

[Tin]

KrazyOne a écrit :

Except one thing your forgetting PWI isn't pay to win. Buying from the cash shop doesn't give you an unfair advantage. That is my point. Anything that in that shop can be bought with out real cash in game from other players. So how is it Pay to Win?

It's SO easy to farm all the coins you need xD. Well, it was when they introduced bot system. Big mistake ! So they reduced amounts of coins dropped, reduced DQ items value to 1 coin, limited grinding to 8 hours per day. So guess how much time you'll need to farm all the coins you need to buy your gear…

KrazyOne a écrit :

All you do is get a 3 to 5 years advantage then you don't have it anymore.

Fixed that for you.

KrazyOne a écrit :

Most of the advantage of paying been removed. You can't Cash your Rank 9 Gear anymore. Only thing that helps you is buying the rep badges, guess what people sell them for coins in game. So please explain to me how its Pay to Win.

Wtf are you saying ???

Mysterious chips are available in sale this week in cash shop.

Medals of Glory were available in cash shop just before Elysium update.
https://www.arcgames.com/fr/games/pwi/news/detail/9894523-elysium-10-day-flash-sale

Elysium updates doesn't tell anything about definitly removing these items form cash shop.
https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/pwi/news/detail/3042833-april-content-update%3A-patch-notes

Are you drunk ? Do you actually play the game ?

Not only you can still cash shop your r9, and other advantages, but they added a lot of new items since they introduced r9. Sockets for accessories, engraving, avatars, star charts, sky reputation pills, houses items, etc. So the game is even more pay to win than before…