you people have 0 right to complain about eac

[SpaceLizard]

for how long have we been told modded clients broke the rules? it was only a matter of time before they had to do something to stop it so grab a tissue and stop complaining because the change finally happened.

maybe try talking like adults with the devs so you arent put on mute, or shut it and go play neos/chillout (if you like running into the same 300+ players like its yer old school days) heh

[SiEgE]

Originally posted by Bone:

for how long have we been told modded clients broke the rules? it was only a matter of time before they had to do something to stop it so grab a tissue and stop complaining because the change finally happened.

maybe try talking like adults with the devs so you arent put on mute, or shut it and go play *** (if you like running into the same 300+ players like its yer old school days) heh

Well, the dudes from the dev team could AT LEAST bugtest the release, to avoid mass crashes and confusion I understand that hiring testers is quite a big move, but they could've done that for an update that big. I mean, no dev is injecting anti-cheats into their games everyday, to not consider that a titan of an update, worth the special attention.

I like the idea of EAC. It should narrow down the amount of issues devs need to deal with. Now, they can focus on their own engine's limits, and patch up holes like texture sizes, amount of bones and polygons going over the limit.
At the very least, the game will become much safer, and will finally get a protection from people evading the game's rules, like evading kicks/bans and stalking other players through means of cheating/hacking.

[SiEgE]

Originally posted by Fenix:

literally no one with more than 100+ hours in VRC wanted EAC and it was voiced and Devs said 'lol, **** you'.

Literally no one likes to have words put in their mouth.

Originally posted by Fenix:

Devs refused to fix their game, Modders did their job better and I could visit public worlds without fear of crashers.

Well, guess what. You don't even need such mods, when you can fix the real issue behind crashers - their ability to avoid the game's limits. Now, since those limits are literally enforced, you can just focus on patching up what issues are left.
There was literally no point "fixing" crashers since no matter what you'll do, they could avoid them using altered clients.

Originally posted by Fenix:

Devs implements EAC and I get crashed the second I even looked at a public world
also I just now realized that after the EAC update I can no longer take pictures through the camera function. GG.

Well, it'll take few months before they'll polish the rest of the things up. Don't forget to report the crashers.

[Worf328]

Originally posted by SiEgE:

Originally posted by Fenix:

literally no one with more than 100+ hours in VRC wanted EAC and it was voiced and Devs said 'lol, **** you'.

Literally no one likes to have words put in their mouth.

Originally posted by Fenix:

Devs refused to fix their game, Modders did their job better and I could visit public worlds without fear of crashers.

Well, guess what. You don't even need such mods, when you can fix the real issue behind crashers - their ability to avoid the game's limits. Now, since those limits are literally enforced, you can just focus on patching up what issues are left.
There was literally no point "fixing" crashers since no matter what you'll do, they could avoid them using altered clients.

Originally posted by Fenix:

Devs implements EAC and I get crashed the second I even looked at a public world
also I just now realized that after the EAC update I can no longer take pictures through the camera function. GG.

Well, it'll take few months before they'll polish the rest of the things up. Don't forget to report the crashers.

Imagine defending a bad decision, crazy. When has anticheat ever worked on a free to play platform? If I can make unlimited free accounts it only punishes players who are trying to play the game the way they like; If I'm a troll who want's to cause chaos to get my rocks off I'll make 1000+ accounts with a script and ignore steam and VRC rules. Triple chromosome decision by the devs.

[SiEgE]

Originally posted by Worf328:

Imagine defending a bad decision, crazy. When has anticheat ever worked on a free to play platform? If I can make unlimited free accounts it only punishes players who are trying to play the game the way they like; If I'm a troll who want's to cause chaos to get my rocks off I'll make 1000+ accounts with a script and ignore steam and VRC rules. Triple chromosome decision by the devs.

Defending? Bad decision? I honestly think it is a good decision, just done poorly :)

We need to see how exactly that AC is going to show itself "in the real world". If it allows for automatic decisions - you wouldn't even need the report system to report cheaters by that point. Not only that, but have you forgot that you have to level up your account before you can upload your crasher avatars? Even if you create 1000+ accounts, all of them end up being banned, automatically.
As I said, AC is not about blocking EVERY attempt to cheat. It is there to make cheaters jump hoops.

[󠀡]

Originally posted by Bot Generated Name:

Ah yes the classic bait post with a private account

Why does his profile begin private make his opinion any less valid? I see this logic in l4d2 steam discussions all the time. Also I hate the changes they did to VRChat.

[Gigadesu!]

Originally posted by Carlos_Spicy:

Originally posted by Retro.exe:

Okay but like... Mods make VRChat actually playable?

Bruh I've been playing vrchat for a long time, and I have never had mods. Game runs just fine... Thats call a skill issue. CRY ABOUT IT!

Did you just bring up skill in a social chat game? I refuse to believe your post ain't bait after that. Nobody is actually that dense, I refuse to believe it because then I have to share a world with it...

[Alty]

Nice attempting to start a flame war. Try harder.

[SpaceLizard]

Originally posted by Alty:

Nice attempting to start a flame war. Try harder.

meanwhile the snowflakes did a war to attack the steams review rating

[SpaceLizard]

Originally posted by 󠀡:

Originally posted by Bot Generated Name:

Ah yes the classic bait post with a private account

Why does his profile begin private make his opinion any less valid? I see this logic in l4d2 steam discussions all the time. Also I hate the changes they did to VRChat.

same logic as someone saying "ratio" on twitter

[Firekraker]

Originally posted by Carlos_Spicy:

Originally posted by Retro.exe:

Okay but like... Mods make VRChat actually playable?

Bruh I've been playing vrchat for a long time, and I have never had mods. Game runs just fine... Thats call a skill issue. CRY ABOUT IT!

You have never used them and have no idea what you where missing out on. So you have ZERO say in this conversation. Go sit in the corner, face the wall, and wear the dunce hat.

There where many features that all of a sudden VRC is now suddenly putting in. You can thank the modders for all those features the VRC stole from them. It's great that you enjoyed plain vanilla. There are plenty of boring vanilla people out there but there was also a huge group that had needs that werent being met by VRC and there werent really any other good options either.

I am glad to see VRC add these options period but they broke the game for others as myself where it wasnt broken before the update so there is that. 2 weeks after the update and I still cant join any world in VRC that has a live stream from stwitch without crashing to desktop where this wasnt an issue before and I know I'm not the only one. So yes. We do have a say to express what we wanted. We all do. Including you. The inly sad part is that the EAC component does ZERO for any security in VRC. Stolen accounts where from actual clients specifically designed to overcome EAC and VRC restrictions and those will continue. Anyway. At this point other then my initial saltiness I have not hate towards anyone. I just think a lot of vanilla users are ignorant of the real uses of those mods. There will always be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and there will always be a way for them to ruin everyones fun regardless of EAC or VRC restictions.

Cheers everyone and feel free to get out of the corner as I want that hat back.

[Senzoba]

Thing is once all this settles down and it will settle down the devs are going to go back to ignoring the community when it comes to features the community wants. They only added what they added to try and shut people up like me but i'm not buying it i'm not a sheep like the OP is

[uye]

Originally posted by Firekraker:

Originally posted by Carlos_Spicy:

Bruh I've been playing vrchat for a long time, and I have never had mods. Game runs just fine... Thats call a skill issue. CRY ABOUT IT!

You have never used them and have no idea what you where missing out on. So you have ZERO say in this conversation. Go sit in the corner, face the wall, and wear the dunce hat.

There where many features that all of a sudden VRC is now suddenly putting in. You can thank the modders for all those features the VRC stole from them. It's great that you enjoyed plain vanilla. There are plenty of boring vanilla people out there but there was also a huge group that had needs that werent being met by VRC and there werent really any other good options either.

I am glad to see VRC add these options period but they broke the game for others as myself where it wasnt broken before the update so there is that. 2 weeks after the update and I still cant join any world in VRC that has a live stream from stwitch without crashing to desktop where this wasnt an issue before and I know I'm not the only one. So yes. We do have a say to express what we wanted. We all do. Including you. The inly sad part is that the EAC component does ZERO for any security in VRC. Stolen accounts where from actual clients specifically designed to overcome EAC and VRC restrictions and those will continue. Anyway. At this point other then my initial saltiness I have not hate towards anyone. I just think a lot of vanilla users are ignorant of the real uses of those mods. There will always be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and there will always be a way for them to ruin everyones fun regardless of EAC or VRC restictions.

Cheers everyone and feel free to get out of the corner as I want that hat back.

you respond to a bait most with an essay, bet you feel proud of yourself, don't you?

[SpaceLizard]

Originally posted by Senzoba:

Thing is once all this settles down and it will settle down the devs are going to go back to ignoring the community when it comes to features the community wants. They only added what they added to try and shut people up like me but i'm not buying it i'm not a sheep like the OP is

"16 hours on record" opinion discarded

[uye]

Originally posted by Bone:

Originally posted by Senzoba:

Thing is once all this settles down and it will settle down the devs are going to go back to ignoring the community when it comes to features the community wants. They only added what they added to try and shut people up like me but i'm not buying it i'm not a sheep like the OP is

"16 hours on record" opinion discarded

>giving a ♥♥♥♥ about how much time they have previously spent

doesn't even take one hour to know that's going to happen, vrchat's still got 20k people playing and that's not including quest users

[SiEgE]

Originally posted by 󠀡:

Originally posted by Bot Generated Name:

Ah yes the classic bait post with a private account

Why does his profile begin private make his opinion any less valid?

Originally posted by s:

Originally posted by Bone:

"16 hours on record" opinion discarded

>giving a ♥♥♥♥ about how much time they have previously spent

doesn't even take one hour to know that's going to happen, vrchat's still got 20k people playing and that's not including quest users

Depends on how private the account is. If it is fully private, it makes one check the account's age through third party means, to decide, whether the account was created yesterday to be a throw-away account(for trolling, spamming and griefing), or is it someone's old account in a private mode.

Lack of hours in all games(and there being mostly F2P games) also points out at a throw-away account.

Anyone with a throw-away account is mostly not worth it discussing anything with. He can spam you down with little to no repercussions.