Map of the caves?

[[HTP] Tiomat]

So have played a bunch now (~300 hrs) and was pretty comfortable going into the caves before the last couple of updates. Never got lost and it wasn't a big deal. Then the first update to the caves came around with that one new section (where you could jump off a ledge into a pool or walk down a long tunnel into the new area). Still not a big deal. Also not a big reason to go down there other then when running low on crystals.

Then the latest update... Managed to find the lava caves from the main cave section on east lake. Okay no big deal... then from there found the section of caves from the recent update... but couldn't translate that into a path back to the main east cave... had to go back through the lava cave to eventually find my way back to the main caves and then back to east lake. I think my buddy and I were down there for 45+ minutes that day stumbling around.

So anyone have any maps, even rough ones of the caves?

[ATOM]

Карта - Новый вход в южную пещеру.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/665344979211780127/871227408777363496/SOUTH-CAVE-BYMUSICMAN.jpg

Карта - Лавовая пещера
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/665344979211780127/871043822061236254/DeepCaveMap-ByMusicMan.jpg

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Escrito originalmente por Akeel:

G-Gamer: " The caves are too small for a cave map to be needed ".
To make a statement like that is not very helpful, and I will take it as your opinion but it does
not take into consideration that my orientation skills are crap and that help or hints, to give and receive is the reason I am on this Forum.

Akeel ,, there are players who can play without a map and there are players who cannot play even with a map. When I started playing this game a few years ago, there was no map at all. For me, a map of caves and a map of the area are not needed at all, because I know the whole area by heart.
Cheers dude,,,

[debz101]

Escrito originalmente por ⋆⋆⋆:

Escrito originalmente por Akeel:

G-Gamer: " The caves are too small for a cave map to be needed ".
To make a statement like that is not very helpful, and I will take it as your opinion but it does
not take into consideration that my orientation skills are crap and that help or hints, to give and receive is the reason I am on this Forum.

Akeel ,, there are players who can play without a map and there are players who cannot play even with a map. When I started playing this game a few years ago, there was no map at all. For me, a map of caves and a map of the area are not needed at all, because I know the whole area by heart.
Cheers dude,,,

Agreed, I only know the map because i had to learn it. There're areas i know better than others but i have a basic knowledge of it all.

I only started going to the caves fairly recently because i found locating the entrances a nightmare, but once i found it all was good. The first time i went down i got lost as i'd never been down there before. Second time i went i took a BCU etc, set that up and all went well. I now know the caves well enough that i don't really need the BCU anymore, but i will keep it there as a memorial to my first cave adventures.

[Akeel]

Escrito originalmente por debz101:

Escrito originalmente por ⋆⋆⋆:

Akeel ,, there are players who can play without a map and there are players who cannot play even with a map. When I started playing this game a few years ago, there was no map at all. For me, a map of caves and a map of the area are not needed at all, because I know the whole area by heart.
Cheers dude,,,

Agreed, I only know the map because i had to learn it. There're areas i know better than others but i have a basic knowledge of it all.

I only started going to the caves fairly recently because i found locating the entrances a nightmare, but once i found it all was good. The first time i went down i got lost as i'd never been down there before. Second time i went i took a BCU etc, set that up and all went well. I now know the caves well enough that i don't really need the BCU anymore, but i will keep it there as a memorial to my first cave adventures.

I'm trying hard to learn my way around, now putting up stairs at certain key points besides having a small base down there with BCU and reading ever bit of how everyone else is doing it.

[Keyser Soze]

it's like moving to a new part of town, first couple weeks you get lost easy and turned around... but after a while you start to recognize certain landmarks and the way the caves lead into each other and start to map it all out in your brain.

it just takes time.

the caves are a bit tricky because everything looks so similar at first, but once you get some situational awareness and start familiarizing yourself with how each "room" connects to another it gets easier.

setting up outposts will for sure help a lot... even if it's just a platform and some stairs it gives you a place to put a storage crate you can store supplies in and a landmark to help your brain remember where everything is.

[BlessedChaos]

ATOM --- thank you for posting pics of what the caves look like..

For some of us who are challenged with directions its helpful to have all the details we can get.. Im not good with maps in rl therefore I have a GPS-- some ppl are great with just knowing their surroundings which is awesome so I guess this discussion isn't for those who it comes naturally to or who love the challenge of getting lost and figuring it out..

Some of us (ME) get freaked out at being lost.. so all those who tried to help by adding information - thank you-- I haven't gone into those lava caves for fear of getting lost..those who just want to add comment about not needing a map -I applaud you for your skills but we aren't all like that.

[Jaunitta 🌸]

Its not really feasable as the surface is required to articulate where the below lava tubes run and which direction they follow compared to the surface..
We have only the beacons from our BCU to give a pointer if needed buy also the map N.S.E.W direction.

Its not difficult to do a lava tubes run from East lake to the top West lake oxygen tanks and gear plus climbing axe required. 2 swims- one down and one back up.

I have already posted it in a discussion here to show it was true and could be completed in a short time.
Also the distance is a lot shorter than the surface since I have built a wooden highway across the entire map on the surface.
Time below is not the same as above. takes 1 day in surface time but around 10 to 15 minutes below.

When I first started playing Subsistence there was noway I would enter a cave ever.
The fear of getting lost subsides and just follow the gps N for top lake West Lake and South for East lake the birch trees lake.
Be familiar with that map direction and you cant go wrong.
Do it with friends if needed.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2707029525
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2707028985
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2747773627

[BlessedChaos]

Thanks Jaunitta -- great information and pics.. You do an amazing job and always helpful.. :)

[Jaunitta 🌸]

Thankyou Dejaden77 my pleasure to help out where I can.