Full Metal Furies

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NasiPuti Jan 19, 2018 @ 6:58am
Are the devs SJWs?
Does anyone know if the developers are SJWs?

If you have a case or evidence one way or another would be good to see it.
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Radical Centrist Jan 19, 2018 @ 7:48am 
if it's about all the PCs being females

please study mythology or at the very least google 'furies'
NasiPuti Jan 19, 2018 @ 7:55am 
Originally posted by Loli Patrol:
if it's about all the PCs being females

please study mythology or at the very least google 'furies'

Well that in combination with the extreme focus on 'holding each others hands' in some of the phrasing used in the GAME FEATURES section.
FreddyTheMonkey Jan 19, 2018 @ 8:05am 
Idiotic thread.
Radical Centrist Jan 19, 2018 @ 9:14am 
Originally posted by NasiPuti:
Originally posted by Loli Patrol:
if it's about all the PCs being females

please study mythology or at the very least google 'furies'

Well that in combination with the extreme focus on 'holding each others hands' in some of the phrasing used in the GAME FEATURES section.
the store page just looks like it's promoting the focus on co-operation though
what even is the definition of SJW anymore
Hase 3-1 Jan 19, 2018 @ 9:26am 
Originally posted by NasiPuti:
Originally posted by Loli Patrol:
if it's about all the PCs being females

please study mythology or at the very least google 'furies'

Well that in combination with the extreme focus on 'holding each others hands' in some of the phrasing used in the GAME FEATURES section.
"Holding each others hands" in the context of cutting a bloody swath through mortal, machine and god alike, diving head first into deep Stygia, fallen Atlantis and hallowed Babylon, once center of the world, while collecting artifacts, weapons and skills of great material and mystical power in order to put a decisive end to a century long, world destroying conflict all in the name of fallen Prometheus, Creater of Man, King of Gods and Mortals.

The Furies take their name,(relative) brutality, gender and overall place in the tale from the Erinyes, cthonic goddesses of vengence and torment, slayers of oathbreakers, kingslayers and those who would bring insolence, be it the young to the aged, children to their parents, or those powerful to whom they rule, none who they hounded lived well or died without suffering.

The game is many things, funny, creative, allegorical and cute, but under that is a diamond hard core of solid gameplay, well-realized characters (in the context of brawlers) and just good design that means that it's entirely possible to ignore the why and just kick♥♥♥♥♥ though to do so whould be doing the writing and worldbuilding/aesthetic a disservice.

So no, the developers are not "SJWs" on a crusade to sully gaming with, shock horrer, well realized, likable heroines working togather to slaughter armies and kill gods, they just wanted to make a goddamned game.

Defend the Ideals of Prometheus.
Last edited by Hase 3-1; Jan 19, 2018 @ 9:45am
<Woof> Nekros (^) Jan 19, 2018 @ 9:39am 
Originally posted by NasiPuti:
Originally posted by Loli Patrol:
if it's about all the PCs being females

please study mythology or at the very least google 'furies'

Well that in combination with the extreme focus on 'holding each others hands' in some of the phrasing used in the GAME FEATURES section.

You realize it's a game focused on co-op right?
Hase 3-1 Jan 19, 2018 @ 9:58am 
Originally posted by <Woof> Nekros (^):
Originally posted by NasiPuti:

Well that in combination with the extreme focus on 'holding each others hands' in some of the phrasing used in the GAME FEATURES section.

You realize it's a game focused on co-op right?
Most likely, yes they do. The wording of that statement reads with the implication that whatever "holding hands" bit on the game's page they've found is going to be something the devs are shoehorning in to send a "message", outside of the game being co-op.

I've been looking for anything that would lead someone to think "SJW" (I hate that term, it barely means anything.) and the only thing that I can find that isn't just stupid like teamwork somehow being bad/being an "issue", is the fact that the main characters are female.

'Course, they've already admitted that the heroines being female are a major part of their beef, so...

Ya know what, I was going to save for Iconoclasts and buy this later, but now I'm going to buy it simply for the cool heroines and well implemented teamwork, badass godkilling's just the cherry on top.

Edit:
And bought. :)
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NasiPuti Jan 19, 2018 @ 10:31am 
Originally posted by Hase 3-1:
Originally posted by <Woof> Nekros (^):

You realize it's a game focused on co-op right?
Most likely, yes they do. The wording of that statement reads with the implication that whatever "holding hands" bit on the game's page they've found is going to be something the devs are shoehorning in to send a "message", outside of the game being co-op.

I've been looking for anything that would lead someone to think "SJW" (I hate that term, it barely means anything.) and the only thing that I can find that isn't just stupid like teamwork somehow being bad/being an "issue", is the fact that the main characters are female.

'Course, they've already admitted that the heroines being female are a major part of their beef, so...

Ya know what, I was going to save for Iconoclasts and buy this later, but now I'm going to buy it simply for the cool heroines and well implemented teamwork, badass godkilling's just the cherry on top.

Edit:
And bought. :)

Na. Don't really have an issue with the all female cast if it has a good reason behind it or no reason at all and someone mentioned it might have to do with Greek mythology. Nonetheless making a purely female cast and excluding male characters as an option would also be something you'd expect from SJWs.

Phrasings like the following are also rather atypical for a hack and slash (and tons of other ones also feature co-op) and could double as an SJW dog-whistle:
  • "but a helping hand never hurts."
  • "Cooperation, not competition [...] Everything is shared, so you can focus on working together."
  • "Alex the Friendly Fighter"

Of course it could also be a development team that isn't too familiar with English and/or SJWs and simply by chance end up making something that could be misinterpreted as such... and that's what I'm trying to find out.
Knave Skye Jan 19, 2018 @ 11:14am 
No, just....no.
Hase 3-1 Jan 19, 2018 @ 11:22am 
Originally posted by NasiPuti:
Originally posted by Hase 3-1:
Most likely, yes they do. The wording of that statement reads with the implication that whatever "holding hands" bit on the game's page they've found is going to be something the devs are shoehorning in to send a "message", outside of the game being co-op.

I've been looking for anything that would lead someone to think "SJW" (I hate that term, it barely means anything.) and the only thing that I can find that isn't just stupid like teamwork somehow being bad/being an "issue", is the fact that the main characters are female.

'Course, they've already admitted that the heroines being female are a major part of their beef, so...

Ya know what, I was going to save for Iconoclasts and buy this later, but now I'm going to buy it simply for the cool heroines and well implemented teamwork, badass godkilling's just the cherry on top.

Edit:
And bought. :)

Na. Don't really have an issue with the all female cast if it has a good reason behind it or no reason at all and someone mentioned it might have to do with Greek mythology. Nonetheless making a purely female cast and excluding male characters as an option would also be something you'd expect from SJWs.

Phrasings like the following are also rather atypical for a hack and slash (and tons of other ones also feature co-op) and could double as an SJW dog-whistle:
  • "but a helping hand never hurts."
  • "Cooperation, not competition [...] Everything is shared, so you can focus on working together."
  • "Alex the Friendly Fighter"

Of course it could also be a development team that isn't too familiar with English and/or SJWs and simply by chance end up making something that could be misinterpreted as such... and that's what I'm trying to find out.
I wrote a really long post answering this, but the forum wouldn't take it. :(

To answer(shorter): The devs are from Canada, those quotes are coming from their ideas on co-op in games and how they've changed it from the baseline, rather than anything political, social etc. nothing in the games themes, story or worldbuilding.

The Furies are female because they are taking the place of the Erinyes, Greek goddesses of vengence, in the allegory the story is telling, that being a story of vengence against those gods who would break their oaths and abuse the heirs of their King (humanity) and his lands after his fall. (And badass heroines are cool.)

You're misinterpreting and overreacting a tad, this blender isn't a bomb, it's just a blender. :)

'M trying to keep my cool even though I vehemently disagree with you and why you started this thread.

Going to play the game now.
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ninnyjams Jan 19, 2018 @ 11:26am 
god damn people are awful
Damos Jan 19, 2018 @ 11:59am 
More misinformed and manipulated than awful, but yes its scary; idiotic thread indeed..
NasiPuti Jan 19, 2018 @ 12:44pm 
Originally posted by Hase 3-1:
Originally posted by NasiPuti:

Na. Don't really have an issue with the all female cast if it has a good reason behind it or no reason at all and someone mentioned it might have to do with Greek mythology. Nonetheless making a purely female cast and excluding male characters as an option would also be something you'd expect from SJWs.

Phrasings like the following are also rather atypical for a hack and slash (and tons of other ones also feature co-op) and could double as an SJW dog-whistle:
  • "but a helping hand never hurts."
  • "Cooperation, not competition [...] Everything is shared, so you can focus on working together."
  • "Alex the Friendly Fighter"

Of course it could also be a development team that isn't too familiar with English and/or SJWs and simply by chance end up making something that could be misinterpreted as such... and that's what I'm trying to find out.
I wrote a really long post answering this, but the forum wouldn't take it. :(

To answer(shorter): The devs are from Canada, those quotes are coming from their ideas on co-op in games and how they've changed it from the baseline, rather than anything political, social etc. nothing in the games themes, story or worldbuilding.

The Furies are female because they are taking the place of the Erinyes, Greek goddesses of vengence, in the allegory the story is telling, that being a story of vengence against those gods who would break their oaths and abuse the heirs of their King (humanity) and his lands after his fall. (And badass heroines are cool.)

You're misinterpreting and overreacting a tad, this blender isn't a bomb, it's just a blender. :)

'M trying to keep my cool even though I vehemently disagree with you and why you started this thread.

Going to play the game now.

Honestly seeing all the overly sensitive comments is another red flag; I asked for evidence and instead the vast majority responded with emotional non-arguments. Definitely seems like it's attracting the snowflake demographic.

Canada is another huge red flag.

Nonetheless I grabbed the game before since the first responder's comment regarding the mythological basis for the all female cast put most of my SJW concerns to rest. WIthout that factor the very concerned language in some parts of the GAME FEATURES and the review regarding the weaksauce humour didn't really hold water. Your follow up answers regarding the lore and the fact that it's probably a blender and I'm likely just seeing red and that those comments are edits possibly from early access are somewhat reassuring.

I'll probably find out whether it is or isn't an SJW game over the coming days from playing the game and seeing what the average person in the Discord is like but hopefully you guys are correct.

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Sidenote: Seriously what is stuff like this "'M trying to keep my cool even though I vehemently disagree with you and why you started this thread."? You can't even handle someone asking a very simple and straight forward question (I mean not that you're an outlier here everyone else is also real offended)? Beyond that what would you do if you lose your cool? Throw a tantrum in front of your computer? Challenge me to fight you IRL? Threaten to doxx me? Taddletale to the forum admin?

I don't like SJWs. I don't want to support, be surrounded by or deal with SJWs. So when I see red flags I try and inform myself. Not only is this in my interest but I'm sure the -hypothetical-
SJWs would also value their safe spaces remaining perfectly insular echo chambers.
Radical Centrist Jan 19, 2018 @ 12:56pm 
my first comment was surprisingly passive aggressive I've now come to realise
but the all female cast is based on actual greek mythology yeh
<Woof> Nekros (^) Jan 19, 2018 @ 1:34pm 
You should probably just take a step back and look at what you've typed and wonder if most people are going to take you seriously.

"Canada is another huge red flag"
"snow flake demograpic"
"Does anyone know if the developers are SJWs"

I get you wanting to avoid and support all the crap but you definitely shouldnt expect that you'd get a "decent" amount of actual answers that isn't just emotional blow back at least anywhere on a steam game page.
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