Undyne The Undying is stronger than any monster in genocide, even sans.

[Mami The Beer Baron]

inb4 fans raging at me about "OH SANS USES GASTER BLASTERS AND IS OP"
i like the taste of your salt.

[Foster]

Actually the strongest monster is you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10sMXnHTT1I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZQJnWA1lJI

[Mami The Beer Baron]

Escrito originalmente por Watarou Desiderus:

Well personally it took me one hour less to defeat Undyne than sans. Sans is meant to be a harder fight since their are no invincibility frames ,he's so unforgiving with his attacks, and can SAP your HP while on the menu box. Undyne gives leighway since their are invincibility frames and she can only attack you on her turn. Her attacks are easier as well and get predictable.

ugh, didnt you read my comment to mountain dewritos?

[qtpyepeeka]

True, Undyne is stronger stats wise. Sans kinda makes up for it by making his attacks numorus and hard to dodge. But if undyne had sans's attack pattern...

[Lord Egg]

Escrito originalmente por qtpyepeeka:

True, Undyne is stronger stats wise. Sans kinda makes up for it by making his attacks numorus and hard to dodge. But if undyne had sans's attack pattern...

Oh god

[Lain]

Escrito originalmente por qtpyepeeka:

True, Undyne is stronger stats wise. Sans kinda makes up for it by making his attacks numorus and hard to dodge. But if undyne had sans's attack pattern...

Sans is weak. He only has advantage because of our high LV, which means invencibility frames simply don't exist and his attacks have KR which is particularly useless against everything but a psychopath. Should we fight Undyne at that level, it would be even harder, even though we would deal more damage, we would suffer a lot more in return because of the lack of invencibility frames.

[RajivK510]

Escrito originalmente por Cory gibus:

Escrito originalmente por JustAcceptIt™:

The strongest monster in genocide is chara, i win, jk
For playing genocide you are the real monster, you have went out of your way to kill monsters for no reason

monsters that infact, TRIED TO HURT YOU FOR NO REASON, and no, they didnt do it in self defense either. :droid: salt on.

One of them is soulless, the rest are either not that bad or are doing it for the greater good.

[Lord Egg]

Escrito originalmente por Cory gibus:

Escrito originalmente por JustAcceptIt™:

The strongest monster in genocide is chara, i win, jk
For playing genocide you are the real monster, you have went out of your way to kill monsters for no reason

monsters that infact, TRIED TO HURT YOU FOR NO REASON, and no, they didnt do it in self defense either. :droid: salt on.

Not in the genocide run

[Mami The Beer Baron]

Escrito originalmente por The Exoticdragonbutters:

Escrito originalmente por Cory gibus:

monsters that infact, TRIED TO HURT YOU FOR NO REASON, and no, they didnt do it in self defense either. salt on.

Not in the genocide run

guess we have a paciscrub here

[Lord Egg]

Escrito originalmente por Cory gibus:

Escrito originalmente por The Exoticdragonbutters:

Not in the genocide run

guess we have a paciscrub here :sleep:

You litterally hunt them down in the genocide run

[Weirdo9934]

Escrito originalmente por African Assassinator.:

Escrito originalmente por Mountain Dewritos:

OMg NNNnnNoOOOoooOo sAns iS tHe bESt ONe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!one!!!!1!1





I'm kidding. Actually do you mind explaining? I'm quite interested in what your saying. (inb4 the flamewar)

im mostly going by stats, hence undyne the undying has one of the highest health stats, 2nd to mettaton NEO, which however, has -4500 defense compared to undyne's 5 defense
suprisingly, she also has the highest attack stat of pretty much any monster in the game (mostly saying pretty much since im not into too far into stat nerding)
sans, however, has one defense, and one attack, KR doesnt really save his bony bottom either, since you can hack invincibility frames into his fight, and it becomes 10x easier (i can see the same with undyne the undying, but she does more damage to you and is at a earlier point of genocide)
EDIT: steam doesnt like the word @SS

Well if we are allowed to hack, hack up attack stat, one shot undyne, up your attack stat, still have to do the entire sans fight.

[Weirdo9934]

Escrito originalmente por Megumin:

Escrito originalmente por qtpyepeeka:

True, Undyne is stronger stats wise. Sans kinda makes up for it by making his attacks numorus and hard to dodge. But if undyne had sans's attack pattern...

Sans is weak. He only has advantage because of our high LV, which means invencibility frames simply don't exist and his attacks have KR which is particularly useless against everything but a psychopath. Should we fight Undyne at that level, it would be even harder, even though we would deal more damage, we would suffer a lot more in return because of the lack of invencibility frames.

When is it confirmed that KR only works against creatures with a high amount of LOVE?

[BreakinBenny]

Escrito originalmente por drcole005:

Escrito originalmente por Megumin:

Sans is weak. He only has advantage because of our high LV, which means invencibility frames simply don't exist and his attacks have KR which is particularly useless against everything but a psychopath. Should we fight Undyne at that level, it would be even harder, even though we would deal more damage, we would suffer a lot more in return because of the lack of invencibility frames.

When is it confirmed that KR only works against creatures with a high amount of LOVE?

It's not confirmed. LV has nothing to do with it.

KR just removes invincibility frames to make up for Sans's magic dealing scratch damage.

[CTheRex]

Escrito originalmente por African Assassinator.:

Escrito originalmente por Mountain Dewritos:

OMg NNNnnNoOOOoooOo sAns iS tHe bESt ONe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!one!!!!1!1





I'm kidding. Actually do you mind explaining? I'm quite interested in what your saying. (inb4 the flamewar)

im mostly going by stats, hence undyne the undying has one of the highest health stats, 2nd to mettaton NEO, which however, has -4500 defense compared to undyne's 5 defense
suprisingly, she also has the highest attack stat of pretty much any monster in the game (mostly saying pretty much since im not into too far into stat nerding)
sans, however, has one defense, and one attack, KR doesnt really save his bony bottom either, since you can hack invincibility frames into his fight, and it becomes 10x easier (i can see the same with undyne the undying, but she does more damage to you and is at a earlier point of genocide)
EDIT: steam doesnt like the word @SS

I see where you are going, but keep in mind that you are not supposed to be able to have invincibility frames in Sans' fight. I think we can agree that Undyne's stats are way better than Sans', but because of the unique rules of Sans' fight, it is more difficult than Undyne's.(provided you are playing the game under normal conditions)

[Mxtxhan]

If it just attack like sans, unfairly(lol).He can defeat us easly but yes you are right.The stats are higher,ı guess.

[bumbum]

In my opinion, Undyne the Undying is harder than Sans

Undying:
-The shield gimmick that I hate but it's even harder
-You fight her at a low level so you have less HP to fall back on
-Has no actual pattern that you can figure out

Sans:
-You can tie his dialogue to which attack he'll use next
-Always uses the exact same order of attacks in every run
-You take lots of damage yes, but you also have lots of HP
-IMO the bones in the menu when it's your turn aren't that bad to dodge, and they also can't actually kill you