This game is heavily CPU bound

[Daddy Wraith]

I'm not sure if people know this already, but I am running the game on an i7-2600k and a 980ti (everything else is pretty irrelevant). I had never OC'd my CPU, however because I was suffering terrible lags randomly, I decided to OC the CPU, and the lag went away, and what was even more surprising was that my framerate increased by around 30fps. I only OC'd it from 3.3 to 4.2GHz so this is legitimately surprising...

Just thought I would give a heads up to this board, and would love to hear any explanations as to why this is even possible.

[80TCS]

That's why this game should've been a DX12 title from the start...

[DevilNinja]

your CPU is old

[Daddy Wraith]

Originally posted by 80TCS:

That's why this game should've been a DX12 title from the start...

I'm curious, but why does that matter?

Originally posted by j4960s:

your CPU is old

It is old... I saw a jump from around 50-70fps to 90-110... That's pretty insane, especially given newer CPUs haven't exactly gone leaps and bounds over previous generations.

[macatak]

what was your CPU usage before you overclocked it ?

[sling_shot]

I'm pretty much a noob when it comes to this kind tech stuff, and it might not be related in any way to this situation at all, but this reminds me of something happened to me a while ago when I tried to emulate Primal (PS2) on PC.

Before trying that game, I've successfully played every PS2 game I wanted, but that one in particular just didn't wanted to run more that 4fps. Turns out, that game -- like a few others of that platform -- were originally designed to rely more on cpu than gpu, and they were like that because the gpu was just not enough for the result devs were trying to achieve. Conclusion, no matter how hi-end rig you pc is , you just can't play that game.

So, being this game a PC port from xbox, and xbox cpu not having that much stuff to do as a pc cpu...

Again, just saying. I know emulation is an entirely different situation, but...

[Daddy Wraith]

Originally posted by macatak:

what was your CPU usage before you overclocked it ?

I never checked the percentage it was being used at, I only OC'd the CPU for fun quite frankly... I hadn't intended for this to happen; I never figured the CPU could possibly be a bottleneck. But as I said, I was at stock settings (3.3Ghz I believe) and just changed the multipler to 42 on my BIOS, and lo and behold, insane FPS gain.

Originally posted by kill-chan:

I'm pretty much a noob when it comes to this kind tech stuff, and it might not be related in any way to this situation at all, but this reminds me of something happened to me a while ago when I tried to emulate Primal (PS2) on PC.

Before trying that game, I've successfully played every PS2 game I wanted, but that one in particular just didn't wanted to run more that 4fps. Turns out, that game -- like a few others of that platform -- were originally designed to rely more on cpu than gpu, and they were like that because the gpu was just not enough for the result devs were trying to achieve.

So, being this game a PC port from xbox...

Again, just saying.

Yeah it seems like this might rely on the CPU more than one expects. The only other explanation is that my CPU has been a bottleneck for a while and I never realized it, but a 50% gain is a little insane...

[DevilNinja]

i get the same 50-70fps to 90-110 i5-4670 + 980ti

[macatak]

what about your current CPU usage, how high is that ?

Use MSI Afterburner to monitor it

[Daddy Wraith]

Originally posted by j4960s:

i get the same 50-70fps to 90-110 i5-4670 + 980ti

Before OC'ing my CPU, i was getting 50-70fps. After OC'ing I am getting 90-110.

[Daddy Wraith]

Originally posted by macatak:

what about your current CPU usage, how high is that ?

Use MSI Afterburner to monitor it

I just went in game to check it out (used vanilla task manager). It fluctuates between 70-80% I believe. Does that give any information?

[macatak]

are you getting this increase in FPS in the Soviet Installation and Geothermal Valley levels ?

[Prawnie]

DX12 Will have less cpu overhead compare to DX11 so it will improve performance drastically in these situations. Look at Mantle for AMD cards, similar concept

[Daddy Wraith]

Originally posted by macatak:

are you getting this increase in FPS in the Soviet Installation and Geothermal Valley levels ?

I noticed it in expedition mode. My framerate before OCing the CPU was like I had said earlier, 50-70, sometimes 80, whatever around there. Then I OC'd it, and went back to the same level (no settings changed) and saw a huge FPS increase and was surprised.

Originally posted by Prawn01:

DX12 Will have less cpu overhead compare to DX11 so it will improve performance drastically in these situations. Look at Mantle for AMD cards, similar concept

Why is everybody fussing about DX12? For the reason you stated? Or is it typical internet flaming/trolling?

[Prawnie]

Originally posted by moistclam:

Originally posted by macatak:

are you getting this increase in FPS in the Soviet Installation and Geothermal Valley levels ?

I noticed it in expedition mode. My framerate before OCing the CPU was like I had said earlier, 50-70, sometimes 80, whatever around there. Then I OC'd it, and went back to the same level (no settings changed) and saw a huge FPS increase and was surprised.

Originally posted by Prawn01:

DX12 Will have less cpu overhead compare to DX11 so it will improve performance drastically in these situations. Look at Mantle for AMD cards, similar concept

Why is everybody fussing about DX12? For the reason you stated? Or is it typical internet flaming/trolling?

That's the way I see it, there may be other reasons but that's my understanding of it

[macatak]

The Soviet Installation and Geothermal Valley levels are where a lot of people are getting frame-rate drops/issues, that's why i asked