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The Secret to Producing useable Water
Don't Recycle Bottles. If your water production is higher than your consumption, empty bottles in the workshop get converted to purified water's over time.

So far as I can tell.
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brian9824 Nov 16, 2015 @ 8:59am 
False. If water production is higher then consumption you will get bottles of purified water in workshop over time. Don't need empty bottles.
AbsynthMinded Nov 16, 2015 @ 2:49pm 
I have had a +45 availability, and didnt get even one till started leaving empty bottles in the workshop..

So.. seems terribly random when the water shows up. It would be infinately more logical to take bottles to a source and 'fill' them. Dirty or Pure.
Cyborgt Nov 17, 2015 @ 12:43pm 
Originally posted by AbsynthMinded:
I have had a +45 availability, and didnt get even one

Ditto. I built the industrial water purifier thinking if I were producing massive amounts of extra water it should give me at least A bottle of purified water (at least according to the rumors floating around here.) I still haven't and i've looted/deposited into the workbench every bottle of every type i've ever come across.

Clearly bottles have nothing to do with it. I just wish there were more information available as to how this works. I sure didn't need the water from the industrial purifier since i already had the regular one but I built it in hopes of getting more water for paste. So far if it's doing anything at all it seems it's infinitely less efficient than just talking to codsworth and looting building...

EDIT:
Just so this information is on the first page of this thread, it turns out you can't have either purified water OR dirty water in your workshop inventory if you want your settlement to produce more purified water. This means you cannot place those items in ANY crafting station but you CAN use seperate containers like a cooler to store them within the settlement's borders.

Also, the gains don't perfectly match the amount of excess water you're producing but you can still get a pretty good quantity of water from your settlements as long as they're producing extra. As an example, at sanctuary i'm producing ~170 water and the most i've seen in the workbench at one time is 113 purified water.
Last edited by Cyborgt; Dec 4, 2015 @ 7:23pm
AbsynthMinded Nov 17, 2015 @ 7:34pm 
I can only hope modders resolve the logical issue then. With a Purifier it should produce water consistantly over time, very slowly would be fine. Or you should be able to fill bottles directly, upto a number per day. Or assign a Settler to the water sources to bring in the water.
ImHelping Nov 17, 2015 @ 7:39pm 
Honestly, I wish recipies that used Dirty water would accept clean water, even if that is resource inneficient.

"There, I purified all my water!... Oh right, now I can't make any kind of soup. Because Soup only wants dirty water." (Well okay, Radstag Stew takes Vodka instead).

Keep some dirty water around if you care about the stuff that calls for it, basically.

Originally posted by AbsynthMinded:
I have had a +45 availability, and didnt get even one till started leaving empty bottles in the workshop..

So.. seems terribly random when the water shows up. It would be infinately more logical to take bottles to a source and 'fill' them. Dirty or Pure.

Yeah I was a bit confused when I made my first water pumps, and then using them just seems to make you useleslsy pump the handle and not get anything for it.
Last edited by ImHelping; Nov 17, 2015 @ 7:40pm
lPaladinl Nov 17, 2015 @ 7:39pm 
Considering the purified water in FO4 isn't even bottled...

You don't need glass bottles to produce extra water. You get extra water each day based on how much extra water resource you have per settlement.

The bottles are broken down into glass for building objects out of glass.
Cyborgt Nov 18, 2015 @ 8:19pm 
Originally posted by I'm Helping!:
Yeah I was a bit confused when I made my first water pumps, and then using them just seems to make you useleslsy pump the handle and not get anything for it.

Actually, using the water pumps heals you a bit every few seconds. It's a decent way to heal up without using any items if you happen to be in a settlement.

Originally posted by lSpookydinl:
Considering the purified water in FO4 isn't even bottled...

You don't need glass bottles to produce extra water. You get extra water each day based on how much extra water resource you have per settlement.

The bottles are broken down into glass for building objects out of glass.

I wish my experience agreed with that assessment. I don't know if i'm just experiencing a bug (I vaguely remember reading somewhere that some people were having problems getting it to work in sanctuary) or if there's some other mechanic to it that people don't fully understand and thus isn't getting explained but I still haven't recieved a single extra purified water and I now have over 90 water production.

I'm just glad i've managed to gather enough for use in making the adhesive I need so that I don't have to worry about the fact that i'm not getting any.
madocs Nov 18, 2015 @ 8:24pm 
Do you need a manned scrapping bench perhaps to collect the water?
Cyborgt Nov 18, 2015 @ 8:53pm 
Originally posted by madocs:
Do you need a manned scrapping bench perhaps to collect the water?

I have 2 so that can't be my problem at least.
Patton_Pending Nov 18, 2015 @ 8:57pm 
I have about sixty water availability and fifteen to twenty settlers in sanctuary. Every time I travel back in there's forty or forty-five bottles in my storage. Zero scrapping benches.
Cyborgt Nov 18, 2015 @ 9:06pm 
Originally posted by Patton_Pending:
I have about sixty water availability and fifteen to twenty settlers in sanctuary. Every time I travel back in there's forty or forty-five bottles in my storage. Zero scrapping benches.

Man am I getting screwed then. I have sooooo much excess water production that I certainly should have recieved SOMETHING by now.

Another thing I remember reading was that you had to take the water out to get more. I have no idea if that's true but I had already stopped storing it in my workbench just so that I could be certain I wasn't gaining any, which i'm not. Do you store any aid items in sanctuary?
Draa Nov 18, 2015 @ 9:29pm 
Originally posted by Cyborgt:
Originally posted by I'm Helping!:
Yeah I was a bit confused when I made my first water pumps, and then using them just seems to make you useleslsy pump the handle and not get anything for it.

Actually, using the water pumps heals you a bit every few seconds. It's a decent way to heal up without using any items if you happen to be in a settlement.

Originally posted by lSpookydinl:
Considering the purified water in FO4 isn't even bottled...

You don't need glass bottles to produce extra water. You get extra water each day based on how much extra water resource you have per settlement.

The bottles are broken down into glass for building objects out of glass.

I wish my experience agreed with that assessment. I don't know if i'm just experiencing a bug (I vaguely remember reading somewhere that some people were having problems getting it to work in sanctuary) or if there's some other mechanic to it that people don't fully understand and thus isn't getting explained but I still haven't recieved a single extra purified water and I now have over 90 water production.

I'm just glad i've managed to gather enough for use in making the adhesive I need so that I don't have to worry about the fact that i'm not getting any.

How many settlements do you have? Are you receiving purified water at any settlement?

I get 5-6 cans per day from each of the settlements that have hand pump wells. I receive 45-50 cans per day from 2 locations where I have 2 large industrial purifiers in each location. I know it works, and no, you don't need bottles/cans to do it. Strange that you're having issues.

You could try to replace the purifiers to see if it solves the problem. Just save first and if it doesn't work (it will take a day or more in game to find out) reload the old save.
Shahadem Nov 18, 2015 @ 9:39pm 
Originally posted by I'm Helping!:
Honestly, I wish recipies that used Dirty water would accept clean water, even if that is resource inneficient.

"There, I purified all my water!... Oh right, now I can't make any kind of soup. Because Soup only wants dirty water." (Well okay, Radstag Stew takes Vodka instead).

Why would I even want to make soup with dirty water? That's just dumb.
Last edited by Shahadem; Nov 18, 2015 @ 9:41pm
Cyborgt Nov 18, 2015 @ 10:04pm 
Originally posted by Draa:
How many settlements do you have? Are you receiving purified water at any settlement?

I get 5-6 cans per day from each of the settlements that have hand pump wells. I receive 45-50 cans per day from 2 locations where I have 2 large industrial purifiers in each location. I know it works, and no, you don't need bottles/cans to do it. Strange that you're having issues.

You could try to replace the purifiers to see if it solves the problem. Just save first and if it doesn't work (it will take a day or more in game to find out) reload the old save.

I HAVE several but I don't have the charisma for the local leader perk yet so I haven't bothered building more water at most of them and I don't generally visit. I've only built up sanctuary in any meaningful way but it isn't producing any purified water for me. I've considered building a completely unmanned water purifier station at the starlight drive-in but I didn't care to work out the materials to take for 2 purifiers and a bunch of turrets. The inventory management system is so terrible for dealing with that kind of thing when you have a lot of materials.

As to the idea of replacing the purifiers, in what way to do you mean? Just pick them up and put them back down again or actually scrapping them and building new ones?

Originally posted by Shahadem:
Originally posted by I'm Helping!:
Honestly, I wish recipies that used Dirty water would accept clean water, even if that is resource inneficient.

"There, I purified all my water!... Oh right, now I can't make any kind of soup. Because Soup only wants dirty water." (Well okay, Radstag Stew takes Vodka instead).

Why would I even want to make soup with dirty water? That's just dumb.

That's a good question. Maybe you should ask that of whoever designed that particular set of recipes at Bethesda.
Draa Nov 18, 2015 @ 10:33pm 
Originally posted by Cyborgt:
Originally posted by Draa:
How many settlements do you have? Are you receiving purified water at any settlement?

I get 5-6 cans per day from each of the settlements that have hand pump wells. I receive 45-50 cans per day from 2 locations where I have 2 large industrial purifiers in each location. I know it works, and no, you don't need bottles/cans to do it. Strange that you're having issues.

You could try to replace the purifiers to see if it solves the problem. Just save first and if it doesn't work (it will take a day or more in game to find out) reload the old save.

I HAVE several but I don't have the charisma for the local leader perk yet so I haven't bothered building more water at most of them and I don't generally visit. I've only built up sanctuary in any meaningful way but it isn't producing any purified water for me. I've considered building a completely unmanned water purifier station at the starlight drive-in but I didn't care to work out the materials to take for 2 purifiers and a bunch of turrets. The inventory management system is so terrible for dealing with that kind of thing when you have a lot of materials.

As to the idea of replacing the purifiers, in what way to do you mean? Just pick them up and put them back down again or actually scrapping them and building new ones?

Originally posted by Shahadem:

Why would I even want to make soup with dirty water? That's just dumb.

That's a good question. Maybe you should ask that of whoever designed that particular set of recipes at Bethesda.

I mean scrapping the purifiers and building new ones. That may or may not work but it's possibly better than the present sitiuation considering they're not working at all right now.

As far as the other settlements? Go to one that is producing a bit more water than it uses and see if there's purified water in the workshop. There should be and if not you'll know it's the game and not something else.

And you can build a bunch of large industrial water purifiers at Sanctuary. You can build 2 at the Drive-In, and 3 at Taffington boathouse. At Sanctuary you can place them in the river between Sanctuary and Red Rocket .I sell 200+ purified water daily to earn caps so I've checked in order to place more purifiers.

As far as I'm aware the only thing you can place at Red Rocket is hand pumps since there's no standing water anywhere within the workshop zone. If you figure out a way to place purifiers there let me know.
Last edited by Draa; Nov 18, 2015 @ 10:34pm
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