Maximum graphics usage near NPC's + strange fps drops 120 to 40-55. (rtx4090 + high fps physics mod.)

[Teewurstprinz]

hey guys, I have a strange problem with the fps in Fallout 4 (rtx 4090 + ryzen 7 7800/ 64gb ram/ ssd) I play vanilla with the "high fps physics mod /F4SE" on 120 fps. Everything works so far, but strangely enough the frame rate sometimes drops to 40-50 fps, and then suddenly back to 120 (I know that, for example, the pipboy menu intentionally runs at 60 fps because that is set in the F4SE ini^, otherwise errors can occur) In any case, the fps drops down to 40-50, for example during fights... there must be something wrong. The RTX 4090 should be able to do this easily, especially since according to Rivatuner it only runs at 35-40% load while it drops. Fallout 4 is made for 60 fps, but the physics mod should actually fix that. or is this normal and cannot be avoided? Is there a setting in the physics mod ini that I may have missed? I'm grateful for any help <3

-> i was aware of the debris problem. I have already deactivated it, the mod does not work 100%, it occasionally crashes. I took another close look at the performance utilization of my 4090 while playing - for some reason the performance near NPC's e.g. in combat or with companions goes to 99% so something can't be right. The 4090 should have enough power to handle this easily... I can't find the reason... even if I set the graphics to low it doesn't change anything.... any idea? :/

[Stabs]

Maybe try turning weapon debris off and see if that fixes the issue. Can do so through the original launcher. Apparently RTX cards, specifically the 4090 have issues with weapon debris.

There is a mod that fixes CTDs associated with Weapon Debris and RTX cards on nexus. If turning the feature off fixes your fps dipping maybe try the mod after to see if it fixes it as well.

Weapon Debris Crash Fix Nexus [www.nexusmods.com]

[Teewurstprinz]

Stabs の投稿を引用：

Maybe try turning weapon debris off and see if that fixes the issue. Can do so through the original launcher. Apparently RTX cards, specifically the 4090 have issues with weapon debris.

There is a mod that fixes CTDs associated with Weapon Debris and RTX cards on nexus. If turning the feature off fixes your fps dipping maybe try the mod after to see if it fixes it as well.

Weapon Debris Crash Fix Nexus [www.nexusmods.com]

Hi Stabs,

i was aware of the debris problem. I have already deactivated it, the mod does not work 100%, it occasionally crashes. I took another close look at the performance utilization of my 4090 while playing - for some reason the performance near NPC's e.g. in combat or with companions goes to 99% so something can't be right. The 4090 should have enough power to handle this easily... I can't find the reason... even if I set the graphics to low it doesn't change anything.... any idea? :/

[sdack]

Even with the High FPS Physics Fix does the game still execute a few things on a frame by frame basis, like scripts, AI and pathfinding. It might simply be the game itself and a CPU problem rather than a GPU problem. The higher the framerate is the shorter the time in between frames gets and this leaves the game less time to do everything else. If you are then seeing these drops in framerate with fights and many NPCs interacting then this might be the reason why.

Are you using any mods that add some heavy scripts to the game? Such mods will add to the problem.

[Teewurstprinz]

sdack の投稿を引用：

Even with the High FPS Physics Fix does the game still execute a few things on a frame by frame basis, like scripts, AI and pathfinding. It might simply be the game itself and a CPU problem rather than a GPU problem. The higher the framerate is the shorter the time in between frames gets and this leaves the game less time to do everything else. If you are then seeing these drops in framerate with fights and many NPCs interacting then this might be the reason why.

Are you using any mods that add some heavy scripts to the game? Such mods will add to the problem.

hey, no only the high fps physics mod...

I'll probably reinstall it completely, leave it vanilla/ 60 fps and hope that the next gen update comes out soon... but this will probably also be buggy...

[wtiger27]

Teewurstprinz の投稿を引用：

sdack の投稿を引用：

Even with the High FPS Physics Fix does the game still execute a few things on a frame by frame basis, like scripts, AI and pathfinding. It might simply be the game itself and a CPU problem rather than a GPU problem. The higher the framerate is the shorter the time in between frames gets and this leaves the game less time to do everything else. If you are then seeing these drops in framerate with fights and many NPCs interacting then this might be the reason why.

Are you using any mods that add some heavy scripts to the game? Such mods will add to the problem.

hey, no only the high fps physics mod...

I'll probably reinstall it completely, leave it vanilla/ 60 fps and hope that the next gen update comes out soon... but this will probably also be buggy...

I have not experienced enough bugs in the base game to even tempt me to use mods. Most of the ones I have, can be ether avoided, fixed by loading a earlier save or the game itself.

But then again, consistent 60 fps in any game is plenty good enough for my enjoyment. I even play Starfield capped at 60 fps. Another game I have not had any major issues with bugs.

[hawkeye]

If you do reinstall and it's still an issue try putting the game on a different ssd to the o/s. Steam can copy the files across. No need to re-download.

[B-o-B]

I'm probably late and talking to his empty Windows C drive rn

HD pack installed?
Preferred Max Performance for GPU power in NV C-Panel?
Extreme move would be clear cache in at least 3? areas in Windows/Steam, they will be reacquired as needed(google).

If you reinstall Windows then Steam, then run the repair tool, in Steam, on any Steam folders you may add. it Verifies if Steams happy with it. Symptoms are more a freezing/stuttering Steam client on log in. But always worth doing on fresh install.
A clean install will determine quicker if it's MOD related in any way, before you add them, obviously. Now you know what your looking for
Depends on the time your willing to sacrifice troubleshooting as apposed to playing it normally now, however weird it's acting.

And finally my party piece. Install direct X after fresh Windows install
And some of those other lovely little packages that still exist in many game folders you can find on your external Game drives/folders.

These are more Tips than me thinking you are Mr DF and don't know how to install stuff, since all sorts are searching all sorts of topics for all sorts of help/info/tips

..and that chaps was a lovely coffee my Achilles heal for speed typing.
good morning and good luck with that.

[Teewurstprinz]

B-o-B の投稿を引用：

I'm probably late and talking to his empty Windows C drive rn

HD pack installed?
Preferred Max Performance for GPU power in NV C-Panel?
Extreme move would be clear cache in at least 3? areas in Windows/Steam, they will be reacquired as needed(google).

If you reinstall Windows then Steam, then run the repair tool, in Steam, on any Steam folders you may add. it Verifies if Steams happy with it. Symptoms are more a freezing/stuttering Steam client on log in. But always worth doing on fresh install.
A clean install will determine quicker if it's MOD related in any way, before you add them, obviously. Now you know what your looking for
Depends on the time your willing to sacrifice troubleshooting as apposed to playing it normally now, however weird it's acting.

And finally my party piece. Install direct X after fresh Windows install
And some of those other lovely little packages that still exist in many game folders you can find on your external Game drives/folders.

These are more Tips than me thinking you are Mr DF and don't know how to install stuff, since all sorts are searching all sorts of topics for all sorts of help/info/tips

..and that chaps was a lovely coffee :2018bestcoffee: my Achilles heal for speed typing.
good morning and good luck with that.

hey, i completely uninstalled Fallout 4 with Revo Uninataller and then reinstalled it. Additionally, I added a few performance mods. Now it works

ty and have a nice day :)