FO4 Modding issues need help

[Arlyana]

Vortex shows no conflicts that sorting load order could not fix as well as Wrye bash. The information below is what was shown when I used the mod checker on Wrye bash. I have a total of 193 mods installed between vortex and Bethesda mods via the in-game mods tab. The game is still not moving past the black screen just before character creation. Can anyone give me a helping hand? A full list of mods follows below. 204 active plugs.
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Vortex shows no conflicts that sorting load order could not fix as well as Wrye bash. The information below is what was shown when I used the mod checker on Wrye bash. I have a total of 193 mods installed between vortex and Bethesda mods via the in-game mods tab. The game is still not moving past the black screen just before character creation. Can anyone give me a helping hand? A full list of mods follows below. 204 active plugs.
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This is a report on your currently installed or active mods.
ESL Capable
Following mods could be assigned an ESL flag but are not ESL flagged.
• 10000_capstart.esp
• 512StandaloneHairColors.esp
• Affordable Shipments.esp
• Amazons.esp
• BuildingGroundFix.esp
• CBBE.esp
• ccfsx2_modbackpack.esp
• cgsx92am cbbe curvy.esp
• CompanionsGoHome_A.esp
• ConcealedArmor.esp
• construct_cc_mmbp.esp
• courser ghost-spectre x-92 armor mashup.esp
• Crossbow AWKCR Patch.esp
• Extra_Tracks_Classic.esp
• Extra_Tracks_Freedom.esp
• Ghouls Revamped.esp
• GR123 West Tek Tactical Gloves.esp
• johndenverradio.esp
• LOST - AWKCR VIS-G Tweaks.esp
• LOST Agony Patch.esp
• LOST Amazing Follower Patch.esp
• LOST Crossbow Patch.esp
• LOST Diamond City Expansion Patch.esp
• LOST Have a Beer Patch.esp
• LOST K9 Harness Patch.esp
• LOST MREs Patch.esp
• LOST Objects Combined Patch.esp
• LOST PMC Extended Patch.esp
• LOST PMC Patch.esp
• LOST Remote Explosives Patch.esp
• LOST SCDO Patch.esp
• LOST See Through Scopes REPLACER Patch.esp
• LOST Settlement Menu Manager Patch.esp
• LOST Snap Build Patch.esp
• LOST Snappy House Patch.esp
• LOST True Storms Patch.esp
• LOST Visible Companion Affinity Patch.esp
• LOST WestTek Gloves Patch.esp
• LOST WestTek Optics Patch.esp
• More Adheisive Shipments.esp
• nb_buildlimitremover.esp
• Nexus_PMC.esp
• NoNakedComment.esp
• PMC_extended.esp
• ring_of_Krwada.esp
• sages leveled pipboy.esp
• Sell Abbot Paint.esp
• terriblemilitarybackpackpatch.esp
• Training_targets.esp
• TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp
• TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp
• TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp
• Uncraftable_Weapon_Mods.esp
• WestTek Add-On.esp
• WestTekTacticalOptics_TogglePatch.esp
• WTTO - Colour Targeting HUD.esp
Active Mod Files:
• 00 Fallout4.esm
• 01 DLCRobot.esm
• 02 DLCworkshop01.esm
• 03 DLCCoast.esm
• 04 DLCworkshop02.esm
• 05 DLCworkshop03.esm
• 06 DLCNukaWorld.esm
• 07 DLCUltraHighResolution.esm
• 08 ccbgsfo4019-chinesestealtharmor.esl
• 09 ccfsvfo4001-modularmilitarybackpack.esl
• 0A ccgcafo4021-factionas10hrflames.esl
• 0B ccbgsfo4048-dovah.esl
• 0C ccbgsfo4086-pipadventure.esl
• 0D Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp [Version 2.1.1]
• 0E ArmorKeywords.esm
• 0F ConcealedArmor.esm
• 10 AAF.esm [Version 139.0]
• 11 AAFThemes.esl
• 12 cclub - modular military backpack.esl
• 13 cclub - fantasy hero set.esl
• 14 CWSS Redux.esp
• 15 XDI.esm
• 16 MamaMurphyFurniture.esl
• 17 ModularMilitaryBackpackWeightPatch.esl
• 18 jags78_PortableDuffleBag.esl
• 19 jags78_QuickDropMenu.esl
• 1A RSE_II_Resources.esm
• 1B Settlement Electricity Overhaul.esm
• 1C SettlementKeywords.esm [Version 1.60]
• 1D Snap'n Build.esm
• 1E MacVaultLooter.esl
• 1F VaultTecEngineering.esl
• 20 VLPad.esl [Version tibird]
• 21 TrueStormsFO4.esm
• 22 Crossbow.esp
• 23 UltimateBallisticWeave.esp
• 24 DisroberWeapons-GetNudeDamnit.esp
• 25 Crazy_Animations_Gun.esp
• 26 ConcealedArmor.esp
• 27 NoNakedComment.esp
• 28 Ghouls Revamped.esp
• 29 VtawWardrobe6.esp
• 2A VIS-G Item Sorting.esp
• 2B LOST - AWKCR VIS-G Tweaks.esp
• 2C LOST Crossbow Patch.esp
• 2D Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp
• 2E LOST Diamond City Expansion Patch.esp
• 2F Nexus_PMC.esp
• 30 LOST PMC Patch.esp
• 31 PMC_extended.esp
• 32 LOST PMC Extended Patch.esp
• 33 RemoteExplosives.esp
• 34 LOST Remote Explosives Patch.esp
• 35 SettlementMenuManager.esp
• 36 LOST Settlement Menu Manager Patch.esp
• 37 LOST Snap Build Patch.esp
• 38 LOST True Storms Patch.esp
• 39 WestTekTacticalOptics.esp
• 3A LOST WestTek Optics Patch.esp
• 3B AA HotC - Standalone - SE.esp
• 3C Unlimited SPECIAL.esp
• 3D ccfsx2_modbackpack.esp
• 3E terriblemilitarybackpackpatch.esp
• 3F construct_cc_mmbp.esp
• 40 cgsx92am cbbe curvy.esp
• 41 AllSetsExtended.esp
• 42 PiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul.esp
• 43 LOST SCDO Patch.esp
• 44 VIS-G Item Sorting Vanilla Weight Patch.esp
• 45 Affordable Shipments.esp
• 46 LGBT Family.esp
• 47 SameSexFemale.esp
• 48 Rikushai_DickChick_V3.esp
• 49 VisibleCompanionAffinity.esp
• 4A LOST Visible Companion Affinity Patch.esp
• 4B sanctuaryriverupdated.esp
• 4C CrimeTown.esp
• 4D nuka world bot fixes.esp
• 4E F4AP.esp
• 4F Diamond City Enhanced.esp
• 50 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
• 51 vault167v1.0000.esp
• 52 Cheats Tweaks and Unlocks - All DLC.esp
• 53 Settlementobjectscombined.esp
• 54 BuildingGroundFix.esp
• 55 vault111plugin.esp
• 56 LOST Amazing Follower Patch.esp
• 57 LOST Objects Combined Patch.esp
• 58 Snappy_HouseK.esp
• 59 LOST Snappy House Patch.esp
• 5A TheStoryOfVault14BETA.esp
• 5B EroticArt.esp
• 5C survivors starter camp.esp
• 5D MREs.esp
• 5E LOST MREs Patch.esp
• 5F the special loot root cellar.esp
• 60 Give Me That Bottle.esp
• 61 specialfoodprocessor.esp
• 62 courser ghost-spectre x-92 armor mashup.esp
• 63 MK_CanteensofCommonwealth.esp
• 64 settlement starter pack.esp
• 65 reinforcedcombatarmor.esp
• 66 fos player home.esp
• 67 ImmersiveLoversEmbraceRemastered.esp
• 68 ImmersiveLoversEmbraceMagnolia.esp
• 69 SleepIntimate.esp [Version 2]
• 6A 10000_capstart.esp
• 6B SKKMobileWorkshop.esp
• 6C silents concrete storage.esp
• 6D KCore's Simple - Missed Settlement Objects.esp
• 6E callias_shackwalls.esp
• 6F sages leveled pipboy.esp
• 70 nb_buildlimitremover.esp
• 71 512StandaloneHairColors.esp
• 72 63SpecialPoints.esp
• 73 AWKCR - dnCommonArmor dlc legendaries bugfix.esp
• 74 MK_Agony.esp
• 75 MK_Agony_Unofficial_Patch.esp
• 76 Amazons.esp
• 77 AWKCR - Mod Power Armor Engine Glitch Fix.esp
• 78 T-60 Equipment.esp
• 79 Atomic Lust.esp
• 7A BallisticWeaveUnlocked.esp
• 7B CBBE.esp
• 7C ClearOwnership.esp
• 7D KSHairdos.esp
• 7E CompanionsGoHome_A.esp
• 7F Crossbow Craftable AWKCR.esp
• 80 Craft_and_Dismantle_Weapons.esp
• 81 DrinkingWater.esp
• 82 unclechubby.esp
• 83 jags78_ExtendedAgony.esp
• 84 LOST Agony Patch.esp
• 85 weapontweaks.esp
• 86 Extended weapon mods.esp
• 87 Animated Drinking.esp
• 88 LOST Have a Beer Patch.esp
• 89 HomePlateConnected.esp
• 8A Hospitality.esp
• 8B johndenverradio.esp
• 8C Xtratrackscombo.esp
• 8D Extra_Tracks_Classic.esp
• 8E Extra_Tracks_Diamond.esp
• 8F Extra_Tracks_Freedom.esp
• 90 JourneyToTheSun.esp
• 91 LongerPowerLinesInf.esp
• 92 LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
• 93 LooksMirror.esp
• 94 DLC items to manufacturing.esp
• 95 More Adheisive Shipments.esp
• 96 Crossbow AWKCR Patch.esp
• 97 NewNeonEyes.esp
• 98 NothingFancyHotShowers.esp
• 99 PMC_NVG.esp
• 9A PoweredWaterpumpWithBathtub.es
• 9B Project Reality Footsteps FO4.esp
• 9C Flashy_ASS.esp
• 9D RSE_II_Brothels.esp
• 9E RSE_II_RandomShenanigans.esp
• 9F RSE_II_WastelandersRash.esp
• A0 radiocommonwealth.esp
• A1 dD-Realistic Ragdoll Force.esp
• A2 ring_of_Krwada.esp
• A3 3dscopes-replacer.esp
• A4 LOST See Through Scopes REPLACER Patch.esp
• A5 Sell Abbot Paint.esp
• A6 mso_sms.esp
• A7 FPAttributes.esp
• A8 FPAttributesHUD.esp
• A9 SkeletonKey.esp
• AA Hoamaii_SleepTogetherAnywhere.esp
• AB Snappy_DLC03.esp
• AC Snappy_DLC_Scrap.esp
• AD Tactical Combat Swimwear.esp
• AE TheInstitute.esp
• AF Training_targets.esp
• B0 TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp
• B1 TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp
• B2 Uncraftable_Weapon_Mods.esp
• B3 Unique_Explosives_SP.esp
• B4 WestTekTacticalOptics - AWKCR_VIS-G_Patch.esp
• B5 WestTekTacticalOptics_TogglePatch.esp
• B6 ValdacilsItemSorting - West Tek Tactical Optics V2.esp
• B7 WestTek Add-On.esp
• B8 WestTekDummyOptics.esp
• B9 WTTO - Colour Targeting HUD.esp
• BA Westtektacticalgloves.esp
• BB GR123 West Tek Tactical Gloves.esp
• BC LOST WestTek Gloves Patch.esp
• BD MK_Agony_non Survival.esp
• BE MK_Agony_VIS patch Non survival.esp
• BF MK_CanteensofCommonwealth_VIS Patch.esp
• C0 TrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.esp
• C1 TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp
• C2 LooksMenu.esp
• C3 FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp
• C4 AAF_GrayAnimations.esp
• C5 Armorsmith Extended.esp
• C6 AA HotC - Standalone - SE - AE Patch.esp
• C7 K9TacticalHarness.esp
• C8 LOST K9 Harness Patch.esp
• C9 Armorsmith WestTek Night & Thermal Vision addon.esp
• CA Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp
• CB Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Bethesda mods are
1. Sage leveled pip-boy
2. build limit remover
3. shacks half walls and corners unlocked
4. CClub's Fantasy Hero set
5. survivers starter camp
6. CClub's Modular Military Backpack
7. Fallout Shelter player Home
8. the special root cellar
9. reinforced combat armor and weapons
10. John Denver Radio
11. Courser Ghost Spector X92 Mashup
12. CGSX92AM CCBE Curvy patch
13. Vault 176 content mod
14. construct modular military backpack
15. Modular military backpack 2x Buffs
16. terrible modular military backpack
17. Nukaworld Automatron Fix- Nukatron Paint for all
18. raids-comen cave
19. silents concrete storage
20. Vault 111 stash
the Vortex mods are
1. 512 standalone hair color
2. 63 special points
3. AAF_VanillaKinkyCreatureAnimations_Themes_V200605.0.7z
4. Advanced Animation Framework (AFF)
5. Agony-Agony Non-Survival
6. Agony-Unofficial patch
7. Agony VIS-G Sorting Patch
8. All Companion Perks
9. All Settlements Extended - Complete ASE 2.0.2
10. AmazingFollowerTweaks
11. AmazonWomen
12. Armor and Weapon Keywords Community Resource (AWKCR) - AWKCR - dnCommonArmor DLC legendaries bugfix for v8.51
13. Armor and Weapon Keywords Community Resource v8.6.0
14. Armorsmith Extended - AE Replacer K-9 Harness VIS-G update
15. Armorsmith Extended - AE WestTek Night Thermal Vision Addon v1
16. Armorsmith Extended v4.6
17. Atomic Lust
18. Ballistic Weave Unlocked
19. Better Goodneighbor
20. BodySlide and Outfit Studio
21. Bullet Counted Reload - v.1.05
22. Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer - v2.6.3
23. Campsite - Simple Wasteland Camping (and HD Sleeping Bags) - Pillows for Sleeping Bags and Tents
24. Canteens of the Commonwealth (Wearable)
25. CBBE Genitals version 4
26. CBBE Skimpy Armor and Clothing Replacer v2 - 2_5 bodyslide files patch
27. CC Modular Military Backpack Camo Redone
28. Cheats Tweaks and Unlocks - All DLC
29. CherrysCBBEBodyPhysics-2.1
30. Clear Ownership
31. Commonwealth Cuts 2.5.1
32. Companions Go Home - Option 1 - Activator Version
33. Concealed Armor
34. Craft_and_Dismantle_Weapons
35. Crossbows AWKCR Patches - Craft Crossbow
36. Crossbows AWKCR Patches - Move Ammo Recipes
37. Crossbows of the Commonwealth - SWOP 2.1plus
38. Crossbows of the Commonwealth 1.4
39. ♥♥♥ inside banner example.7z
40. CWSS Redux v3 - Craftable Working Showers Sinks Baths Toilets Urinals Kitchens etc - CWSS Redux
41. Diamond City Enhanced 2.0 Flora Revisited
42. Diamond City Expansion 1.5.1
43. DickChick v3 - a Futanari and Shemale -Mod - 1 DCv3 CutDingDongX1.5Bigger
44. DickChick v3 - a Futanari and Shemale -Mod - 2 DCv3 BigBalls
45. DickChick v3.1 Safe
46. Disrobing Weapons - Get Nude Damnit (Improved)
47. Drinking Water - English
48. Electronics
49. Erotic Art 2K
50. Extended Agony
51. Extended Dialogue Interface 1.3.6
52. Extended weapon mods 1.7
53. F4 animated prostitution - Alfa - F4AP
54. FO4_AnimationsByLeito_v2.0a.7z
55. Functional NVG for PMC Fast Helmet - PMC NVG
56. Ghouls Revamped
57. Ghouls Revamped - CBBE Version
58. Give Me That Bottle - DLC (Requires Far Harbor)
59. Have a beer - animated drinks
60. High Res DLC Black Face Fix
61. Home Plate Connected
62. Hospitality_0.0.1.7z
63. Hot Vault Girl - Pipboy FOMOD
64. Immersive Lovers Embrace Remastered - ILER - Animation Edition (AAF) v10.6.1
65. Journey to the Sun
66. JRavens Extra Tracks Pack -CLASSIC
67. JRavens Extra Tracks Pack - DIAMOND
68. JRavens Extra Tracks Pack - FREEDOM
69. KCore's Simple - Missed Settlement Objects 1.7
70. Lockpick Bar
71. Longer Power Lines Infinite
72. Looks Menu Customization Compendium
73. LooksMenu v1-6-18
74. LooksMirror v1-0-1
75. LOST AWKCR VIS-G Patches
76. Mama Murphy's Furniture ESL version
77. Manufacturing Extended expanded
78. Military MREs - (Standard Lists) v1.1
79. Mod Configuration Menu 1.39
80. Modular Military Backpack Fix
81. Modular Military Backpack Weight Patch
82. More Adheisive Shipments
83. MRE VIS-G-41762-1-0-1572142866.zip
84. New Neon Eyes
85. NoNakedComment
86. NothingFancy_HotShowers
87. NUCLEAR Nude CBBE NMM installer v3.4
88. Place Everywhere - Place (Fallout4 1.10.163 - latest release)
89. Portable Duffle Bag
90. Powered Water Pump With Bathtub v1.2.1
91. Private Military Company - Nexus PMC 3.0
92. Private Military Company - Nexus PMC 3.0.2 Hotfix
93. Private Military Company - PMC Glowmap
94. Private Military Company CBBE Uni Body bodyslide file V2.1
95. Private Military Company Extended
96. Private Military Company Extended Hot fix
97. Project Reality Footsteps FO4 1.7 BA2
98. Quick Drop Menu - The Mobile Mechanic and Campsite
99. Radio Commonwealth
100. Realistic
101. Remote Explosives 2.0
102. Remove Pip-Boy Screen Glow
103. REPLACER - Topless Raider Armor CBBE Curvy
104. Ring of Krwada plus
105. RSE_II_Resources_ESM (v1.0).zip
106. RSEII - Advanced Needs Settlement Solutions (v1.0).zip
107. RSEII_Brothels (v1.6).zip
108. RSEII_RandomShenanigans(v2.0).zip
109. RSEII_WastelandersRash(v1.3).zip
110. Same Sex Couples and LGBT Families - LGBT Family (Far Harbor)
111. Same Sex Female
112. sanctuary river fixed
113. Scrap dead things 1 70 Automatron
114. Scrap Everything
115. Scrap Everything - Automatron invisible mesh fix
116. Scrap Everything - Building Placement Fix
117. Scrap Everything - Vault 88 CtD fix - Ultimate Edition
118. See Through Scopes v2.3.3
119. Sell Paint To Abbot
120. Settlement Electricity Overhaul
121. Settlement Keywords Expanded v1.60
122. Settlement Management Software (loose files)
123. Settlement Objects Combined ESP
124. SettlementMenuManagerMainFile
125. Settlements Expanded (NMM Installer)
126. Settler and Companion Dialogue Overhaul
127. SexAttributes2.4.3.zip
128. SexAttributesHUD2.0.0.zip
129. SkeletonKey.espzip
130. SKKMobileWorkshop_005
131. Sleep Intimate - Sleep Intimate files for optional AAF v2.44
132. Sleep Intimate version 2 - R-X
133. Sleep Together Anywhere v.01.2
134. Snap'n Build 2.0
135. Snap'n Build 2.0 - Windowed walls texture fix.
136. Snappy DLC Kits - Snappy_DLC03 Scrap and Rebuild Far Harbor
137. Snappy Housekit 9.2.2
138. Snappy_DLC03
139. SnappyStep
140. SnappyStepWood
141. Sounds (SEX)
142. T-60 Equipment - 1.0 4K
143. Tactical Combat Swimwear (Addon)
144. Tactical Combat Swimwear (Standard Version)
145. The Institute
146. Topless Raider Armor CBBE-Bodyslide Standalone and Replacer - CherryHotalings Physics Bodyslide Files
147. Training Targets
148. True Storms - Wasteland Edition (Thunder-Rain-Weather Redone) - Nuka World Add-On (with TS Far Harbor Compatibility)
149. True Storms - Wasteland Edition v1.4.1
150. Ultimate Ballistic Weave
151. Ultimate Ballistic Weave
152. Unique Explosives SP
153. Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch
154. Vault Looter Easy ESL
155. Vault-Tec's AROD Water Purifier - Version 1 - ESL
156. Vertibird Landing Pads - ESL Version
157. VIS-G Item Sorting v2.7
158. Visible Companion Affinity v4.141 EN
159. Vtaw Wardrobe6 Bodyslides
160. Vtaw Wardrobe6 Main
161. Weapon Improvements and Tweaks Main
162. West Tek Add-On
163. West Tek Dummy Optics
164. West Tek Tactical Gloves - v1.1 main file
165. West Tek Tactical Optics - Vadlacil's Item Sorting - Compatibility Patch - ValdacilsItemSorting - West Tek Tactical Optics - by Mephiston1
166. West Tek Tactical Optics v2.0.1 (minor update)
167. West-Tek tactical gloves
168. WestTekTacticalOptics - AWKCR_VIS-G_Patch
169. West TekTacticalOptics_BASE_NewEffects
170. WTTO - Enhanced Tactical HUD
171. WTTO MCM Patch
172. xtratrackscombo
173. ZaZ-Extended_Skeleton (ZEX)

[Ilja]

Does the game run without mods?

Black screen usually means either third party application interfering with the game, or memory issues. It isn't common to see issue like that coming from any mod file in load order.

If any file is causing the problem, then it is most likely in Fallout 4 root folder.

[Æɴɪsᴏ]

You can always enable the papyrus logs on the INI settings, and then once your game crashes see what script is the culprit.

[Ilja]

Unfortunately Papyrus log is not a crash log. It does not record the script that causes the crash. If it even is a script that is causing the crash.

It can show if game is throwing stack dumps though. If you see such entries, then save file is pretty much toasted. Something is reserving Papyrus time so much that scripts start failing and dumps begin.

Reading logs requires understanding about how the system works. Papyrus log records everything. Therefore it can be very misleading. Many people have mistakenly uninstalled a bunch of mods, or installed horde of mods they do not need, because log also records soft dependency checks, marking missing soft dependencies like there would be an actual issue.

[=EGC= kansasterry]

You might try hitting enter or space after being on that blackscreen for a bit I had one mod I do not recall its name that had a pop up I had to click ok on that poped in unseen when the screen was blacked out and the game pauses and waits for us to hit the ok button.

One way to test this other than waiting then just hitting the key to select the ok in the popup would be to make a profile with no mods go to the point you are outside the house then add each mod to that profile one at a time and see if one causes a pop up message.

[Ilja]

Originally posted by =EGC= kansasterry:

You might try hitting enter or space after being on that blackscreen for a bit I had one mod I do not recall its name that had a pop up I had to click ok on that poped in unseen when the screen was blacked out and the game pauses and waits for us to hit the ok button.

Hmm... good point. It could be DEF_UI, if Arlyana is using it and didn't create preset with executable. Without INV extension it wouldn't show in load order.

As a side note: I thought for a longest time that your avatar is Abraham Lincoln. Don't as me why. I still see it every now and again.

[=EGC= kansasterry]

Originally posted by Ilja:

Originally posted by =EGC= kansasterry:

You might try hitting enter or space after being on that blackscreen for a bit I had one mod I do not recall its name that had a pop up I had to click ok on that poped in unseen when the screen was blacked out and the game pauses and waits for us to hit the ok button.

Hmm... good point. It could be DEF_UI, if Arlyana is using it and didn't create preset with executable. Without INV extension it wouldn't show in load order.

As a side note: I thought for a longest time that your avatar is Abraham Lincoln. Don't as me why. I still see it every now and again. :RoflOwlcat:

Well the face does look a little like him if he had a beard and a hat like Lincoln he could probably pass as him but its actually the character from an old video game. I think the game was called serious sam if I recall correctly.

[Arlyana]

I have found out that it is two of the mods conflicting. I believe it is either two of the Bethesda mod conflicting with each other one a Bethesda mod and a vortex mod. I wish there was an easy way to find out which ones it is but there is not. All 3 tools I use vortex, Wyre bash, and loot all say that nothing is conflicting.