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V Jan 10, 2020 @ 8:13am
Which mod manager to use in 2020?
Apparently Nexus Mod Manager is no longer supported and "Vortex is garbage" seems to be the general consensus in the modding community.
Originally posted by sparky_bandit:
Vortex had a learning curve when I switched from NMM. But, in the end it is a better product.

Loot built in so don't have to worry do much about load order.

Plugin tab has much more useful information than NMM.

Good (not perfect) tutorials in central location. Learning NMM was just as hard and almost no help.

So, Vortex has my vote.

Edit: I am a heavy modder of fallout, skyrim and witcher.
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Gracey Face Jan 10, 2020 @ 8:14am 
I have personally had no problem with Vortex, but I am not a hardcore modder so.
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sparky_bandit Jan 10, 2020 @ 8:19am 
Vortex had a learning curve when I switched from NMM. But, in the end it is a better product.

Loot built in so don't have to worry do much about load order.

Plugin tab has much more useful information than NMM.

Good (not perfect) tutorials in central location. Learning NMM was just as hard and almost no help.

So, Vortex has my vote.

Edit: I am a heavy modder of fallout, skyrim and witcher.
Last edited by sparky_bandit; Jan 10, 2020 @ 8:20am
Swordgun Jan 10, 2020 @ 8:20am 
Mod Organizer 2
Osas Jan 10, 2020 @ 9:00am 
Vortex.
therussmeister Jan 10, 2020 @ 10:19am 
What Oldbobdude said. Vortex has a bit of a learning curve, but it's not that bad. And if you use Nexus it's probably your best bet.
=EGC= kansasterry Jan 10, 2020 @ 11:41am 
Vortex is what I switched to basically because I mostely get mods from nexus.

As others said it does have a bit of a learning curve however there are tutorials linked in the launcher to help with this. It also warns us of mod conflicts as soon as we install one that wants to overwrite or replace the files of another so we can decide what to do on what one to load first.
Chaosium Jan 10, 2020 @ 11:45am 
Nexus Mod Manager community version works fine. Never had to switch to something else
=EGC= kansasterry Jan 10, 2020 @ 11:50am 
Originally posted by Chaosium:
Nexus Mod Manager community version works fine. Never had to switch to something else

Basically it depends on how up to date they keep NMM and accepting the possibility of having to manually install some mods.

Some things like checking for updates or downloading new mods that require actually logging into nexus may stop functioning at some point if they have not already.

That is why when I had to reinstall everything I decided to just move on to using vortex.

Frankly as long as what you have works for what you use it for there is no real need to replace it.
Last edited by =EGC= kansasterry; Jan 10, 2020 @ 11:51am
Flippy Jan 10, 2020 @ 11:56am 
Originally posted by Spartan Renegade:
Apparently Nexus Mod Manager is no longer supported and "Vortex is garbage" seems to be the general consensus in the modding community.

Not a communist but i dont think using mod managers is a good idea anyway.
Sabaithal Jan 10, 2020 @ 12:08pm 
Been using Nexus mod manager for years. Still use it, just the community edition now, which is still supported and receiving updates, ect.

Always did work just fine, and it still does. Never had any issues with it beyond user error.
xybolt Jan 10, 2020 @ 12:37pm 
Originally posted by Spartan Renegade:
Apparently Nexus Mod Manager is no longer supported and "Vortex is garbage" seems to be the general consensus in the modding community.

There aren't many alternatives. Currently, there are three useful mod managers for FO4:

1. Mod Organizer 2 (aka MO2),
2. Vortex
3. Nexus Mod Manager Community Edition (NMM CE)

I value MO2 over those other mod managers but it really depends of your personal use. Are you a heavy modder? Or just want to add handful mods to a game? Do you want to have different mod builds, for different playthroughs? Do you want an "quick-n-easy-install" feeling?

In essence, you can say that MO2 are useful for modders that are modding their game heavily, with hundreds mods. However you can manage the same build with Vortex. Here, it fades down to the user's taste which one is better.

Or ... you can be mad and do it without mod managers.
=EGC= kansasterry Jan 10, 2020 @ 12:52pm 
Originally posted by Sabaithal (uh...super saiyan???):
Been using Nexus mod manager for years. Still use it, just the community edition now, which is still supported and receiving updates, ect.

Always did work just fine, and it still does. Never had any issues with it beyond user error.

Try installing a mod with a 1gb bsa. Let me know if it works as I always had to manually extract and install such or the install failed in NMM. Granted this may have been addressed since the time I used NMM.
Last edited by =EGC= kansasterry; Jan 10, 2020 @ 12:53pm
Sabaithal Jan 10, 2020 @ 12:58pm 
Originally posted by =EGC= kansasterry:
Originally posted by Sabaithal (uh...super saiyan???):
Been using Nexus mod manager for years. Still use it, just the community edition now, which is still supported and receiving updates, ect.

Always did work just fine, and it still does. Never had any issues with it beyond user error.

Try installing a mod with a 1gb bsa. Let me know if it works as I always had to manually extract and install such or the install failed in NMM.
CROSS Brotherhood Recon 4k skinpack. The actual skinpack is about 1.5gb and is a BA2. Don't know if that counts. Installed just fine, and have been using it for a while. Cool looking minuteman coat textures FTW!
Last edited by Sabaithal; Jan 10, 2020 @ 1:01pm
Sabaithal Jan 10, 2020 @ 1:08pm 
Assuming BA2s do not count, I did find one that has several BSAs, all around 1gb in size. But its for Skyrim SE.

The 'beyond skyrim - bruma' mod. Just installed it out of curiosity. Didn't get an error. Seems to be working fine.
Last edited by Sabaithal; Jan 10, 2020 @ 1:11pm
Southpawe Jan 10, 2020 @ 1:15pm 
Originally posted by Sabaithal (uh...super saiyan???):
Assuming BA2s do not count, I did find one that has several BSAs, all around 1gb in size. But its for Skyrim SE.

The 'beyond bruma' mod. Just installed it out of curiosity. Didn't get an error. Seems to be working fine.

I don't know if it is the size alone that causes problems.

Thuggysmerf mods for Fallout 4 have a huge amount of dialogue and scripts all packed into the BA2 file and those mods are just under 1gb I think.

I can never get those mods to install with NMM, always installed those manually.

Never really had any problems other than the occasional mod that fails to install. Nothing a restart of NMM couldn't fix.
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