The open hint thread

[zarf_home]

So, certificate aside, you can ask for a hint if you really need one. Hadean Lands has no built-in hint system, so an open forum thread is the best way to go with this.

I do not plan to offer hints myself -- you're the players! You've got this.

Yes, there are walkthroughs out on the net. You can look there too. I think it's more fun (and more social, and less spoilery) to talk to other players than to search a walkthrough. But it's up to you.

Enjoy.

[Namekujisennin]

I'll say damn to the certificate and kick this off:
Regarding blackwood, anybody figured how to ignite it? Are you even supposed to? Are you supposed to freeze it and then invert it and... argh :E

[kimpira]

Originally posted by Namekujisennin:

I'll say damn to the certificate and kick this off:
Regarding blackwood, anybody figured how to ignite it? Are you even supposed to? Are you supposed to freeze it and then invert it and... argh :E

As you've noticed, different kinds of wood have different temperatures at which they'll burn.

What's more, it appears that wood burns at a higher temperature than its initial burning point.

[Namekujisennin]

*grumbles* have yet to figure that out, though I discovered a bunch of new stuff so I guess I'll get back to that problem later!
This is more general remarks about commands, might be considered a spoiler to some? The automation of performing rituals and such is really great. I figured you could go to a room, and remember where an item was. Both are huge conveniences that took me a while to figure try out; they might be worth adding to the Reference Card, in my opinion. Or maybe it is modern IF convention? Or worse: it was stated in-game and I didn't pay attention? ^.^

[Ryusui]

They're not really convention but "commands" does list the ability to go to locations (not things, though).

[Baf]

For what it's worth, a lot of people get stuck on the blackwood thing, myself included. The thing that got me unstuck was encountering the reverse of the problem: at one point, you have to use burning pith in a ritual, but it's hard to get burning pith because pith burns up instantly when ignited at too high a temperature. Somehow it was easier for me to think of the solution to this problem, and once I had that, all I had to do is turn it around for the blackwood

[Nika]

Is it possible to come up with a modification of the "lead weight increase inscription" ritual to get a lead weight DECREASE, or should I just stop trying? (EDIT: never mind, I got it - it was doable but not with what I had at the time)

Also, where should I use the chime from the glass permeability inscription? I can't remember any, and I don't really want to walk through the whole map looking for glass. (EDIT: I found one place, anyway? idk if there's more.)

[Peter]

Nika: There are two such places in the Marcher.

[Zyro]

Does the game have dead ends?
Like when I've lost my orichalcum to the wire-drawer or my platinum to making electrum?
Or are such problems reversible?

*edit*
It would have really been helpful if I had read https://hadeanlands.com (main page and "playing IF" section) before being over 10 hours into the game. :D

[sub-program 32]

So I have no freaking idea where people are even finding orichalcum. It sounds like something the game expects you to find pretty early, but oh boy, have I not succeeded at that. XD The blackwood I am also stuck on, like everyone is apparently, and i haven't even gotten to any other burning wood rituals to compare notes with. XD My path is basically halted until I succeed on one of those two paths, it feels...

[zarf_home]

Dan Fabulich has posted a thorough Invisiclues-style walkthrough here: https://intfiction.org/t/hadean-lands-invisiclues-hints/44350

(It's "click to unspoiler each line", so visiting the page will not spoil anything. But finding hints for a specific puzzle may take a little bit of care.)

[Zyro]

Originally posted by sub-program 32:

So I have no freaking idea where people are even finding orichalcum. It sounds like something the game expects you to find pretty early, but oh boy, have I not succeeded at that. XD

I can tell you where it is:
North of "Lab Hall Northwest", in the Main Store, in the safe

Originally posted by sub-program 32:

The blackwood I am also stuck on, like everyone is apparently, and i haven't even gotten to any other burning wood rituals to compare notes with. XD My path is basically halted until I succeed on one of those two paths, it feels...

What's up with the blackwood?
It helps you "improve" something...

[IndustrialRobot]

The game has a lot of automation support like "go to" items or creating previous recipes but is there a way to
get a known item from a different room with one command? "go to <x>, take <x>/all, go back" is a bit tedious for fetching several ingredients after a reset

[badlymadetraveler]

Guess which piece of wood didn't light when I walked into an inferno.

Surprised they weren't too soaked from... something else.

[badlymadetraveler]

Found a wood burning guide (for campfires mainly). Could help?