Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade

Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade

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EC dead to the West
it seems like the Western part of the planet (US, Canada, Mexico, S. America) have finally walked away from EC. For awhile you could still get 1 match in the evening after work for a few hours but now that's gone as well. I blame CyberPunk. the funniest part is that game is bugged to hell as well.
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I wouldn't blame cyberpunk, frankly I blame a lack of support from the developers. I played the ♥♥♥♥ out of EC, they just never updated it, addressed balancing issues, or did anything about the bogus pay to win side of the game:lunar2020stoicox:
Lexter 2020年12月19日 14時12分 
Laika the space dog の投稿を引用:
I wouldn't blame cyberpunk, frankly I blame a lack of support from the developers. I played the ♥♥♥♥ out of EC, they just never updated it, addressed balancing issues, or did anything about the bogus pay to win side of the game:lunar2020stoicox:
There is absolutely no p2w in this game. If you say so, you are just a liar.
sir.eggy 2020年12月24日 15時11分 
Laika the space dog の投稿を引用:
I wouldn't blame cyberpunk, frankly I blame a lack of support from the developers. I played the ♥♥♥♥ out of EC, they just never updated it, addressed balancing issues, or did anything about the bogus pay to win side of the game:lunar2020stoicox:

Well, it got updates. The last one was 1.5 years ago.

Balancing was good, before the nerfs started. But you can't fix player brains, which are not willing to learn the game, and only complain about how unbalanced it is. It looked unbalanced, but it wasn't.

There was and still isn't p2w in this game. The only thing you can buy are skins for stuff which is in the game already.
sir.eggy の投稿を引用:
Laika the space dog の投稿を引用:
I wouldn't blame cyberpunk, frankly I blame a lack of support from the developers. I played the ♥♥♥♥ out of EC, they just never updated it, addressed balancing issues, or did anything about the bogus pay to win side of the game:lunar2020stoicox:

Well, it got updates. The last one was 1.5 years ago.

Balancing was good, before the nerfs started. But you can't fix player brains, which are not willing to learn the game, and only complain about how unbalanced it is. It looked unbalanced, but it wasn't.

There was and still isn't p2w in this game. The only thing you can buy are skins for stuff which is in the game already.

You can say what you want. The players are not at fault for developers not taking interest in their own product. Blaming customers for the decisions of the company is one of the first of the 10 signs of a failing business model.
sir.eggy 2020年12月28日 13時40分 
Sednovia Nova の投稿を引用:

You can say what you want. The players are not at fault for developers not taking interest in their own product. Blaming customers for the decisions of the company is one of the first of the 10 signs of a failing business model.

Why I'm not surprised about this answer came from a "Space Marine"? The most learn resistant and w**** faction in this game.

I don't blame "customers" for decisions of the company. I'm blaming players (mostly LSM) which are not willing to learn how this game works at all and blaming everyone else but themselves for losing.
sir.eggy の投稿を引用:
Sednovia Nova の投稿を引用:

You can say what you want. The players are not at fault for developers not taking interest in their own product. Blaming customers for the decisions of the company is one of the first of the 10 signs of a failing business model.

Why I'm not surprised about this answer came from a "Space Marine"? The most learn resistant and w**** faction in this game.

I don't blame "customers" for decisions of the company. I'm blaming players (mostly LSM) which are not willing to learn how this game works at all and blaming everyone else but themselves for losing.

Still that has nothing to do with the product bringing players in. You are still blaming players for people not staying in the game. That is a faulty metric. Can't act like players are to blame for the players leaving the game. Your assessment should be the game was poorly balanced. Plus, I play my CSM more than my LSM. I help the LSM whenever they are on a losing streak. So, being nice has a cost to helping others.
Sednovia Nova の投稿を引用:
I help the LSM whenever they are on a losing streak. So, being nice has a cost to helping others.
Oh nice you want a medal? Face the facts lad more often than not the reason LSM were on a losing streak is BECAUSE of the playerbase (which is bias towards them by the way) can't grasp the concept of teamwork to save their lives!
Edit: hell the ONLY time they weren't on a losing streak is because of a guild carrying all of the weight because unlike randoms THEY have the concept of teamwork in their minds!
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Sednovia Nova の投稿を引用:
I help the LSM whenever they are on a losing streak. So, being nice has a cost to helping others.
Oh nice you want a medal? Face the facts lad more often than not the reason LSM were on a losing streak is BECAUSE of the playerbase (which is bias towards them by the way) can't grasp the concept of teamwork to save their lives!
Edit: hell the ONLY time they weren't on a losing streak is because of a guild carrying all of the weight because unlike randoms THEY have the concept of teamwork in their minds!

Yep-Yep. Also teaming up with people does help, instead of “Joining the Zerg”, stay in your own Squad and try to direct the Nerps in your group, and try to lead them to accomplish tasks. EC wasn’t always about 10 man squads rolling everywhere. Can’t defend or assault coherently like that.

Once had a losing time as CSM, grabbed some guys and said “Hey, everyone on A join Bravo, we’re gonna hold this point.”

XP and Defended the last Time-giving point as long as we could while everyone tried to take B &C.

...Then we got overran by a Vet Trio, but hey. That was fun.

Don’t rely on others to lead, take the Reins and direct. If your leader is trash, split and lead another. The amount of people who Zerg Up yet the Leader doesn’t:

1. Try to Abuse the Buff as much as they can. (Aka JPA’s that go Solo.)
2. Label Points for that XP buff (which they also get.)
3. Try to direct their group around.

The Buffs may seem negligible but that’s if the Leader can’t stay the hell alive or with his squad, it’s useless.

Stick together. Stronger with each other.
Like fuack.
Lexter の投稿を引用:
Laika the space dog の投稿を引用:
I wouldn't blame cyberpunk, frankly I blame a lack of support from the developers. I played the ♥♥♥♥ out of EC, they just never updated it, addressed balancing issues, or did anything about the bogus pay to win side of the game:lunar2020stoicox:
There is absolutely no p2w in this game. If you say so, you are just a liar.

sir.eggy の投稿を引用:
Laika the space dog の投稿を引用:
I wouldn't blame cyberpunk, frankly I blame a lack of support from the developers. I played the ♥♥♥♥ out of EC, they just never updated it, addressed balancing issues, or did anything about the bogus pay to win side of the game:lunar2020stoicox:

Well, it got updates. The last one was 1.5 years ago.

Balancing was good, before the nerfs started. But you can't fix player brains, which are not willing to learn the game, and only complain about how unbalanced it is. It looked unbalanced, but it wasn't.

There was and still isn't p2w in this game. The only thing you can buy are skins for stuff which is in the game already.
abaddon's grace was a straight upgrade at the cost of premium currency


The game died because big promises were made by the early devs and those promises weren't delivered on which drove a lot of people away. Simple as that. Pointing at all these things that came later is ignoring the initial problem.
sir.eggy の投稿を引用:
Sednovia Nova の投稿を引用:

You can say what you want. The players are not at fault for developers not taking interest in their own product. Blaming customers for the decisions of the company is one of the first of the 10 signs of a failing business model.

Why I'm not surprised about this answer came from a "Space Marine"? The most learn resistant and w**** faction in this game.

I don't blame "customers" for decisions of the company. I'm blaming players (mostly LSM) which are not willing to learn how this game works at all and blaming everyone else but themselves for losing.
The fact that you only mention 2 factions says a lot. There were 4 factions in this game. Balance was so tilted towards bolters that Orks and Eldar don't exist anymore and it's been like that for years.
But i will agree that balance got ruined by cries from LSM. At some point they got Skip Luncha nerfed. One of the most useless weapons, because they lost to a group that used exclusively that one weapon for 1 game.
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投稿日: 2020年12月17日 12時46分
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