DARK SOULS™ III

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Ornstein Build Thoughts?
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/38401

When i get the NG+ rings, i can take a few points out of vitality to put elsewhere, the shield is there because I'm a scrub and need the blocks, the sss for the sacred oath, wanted to stay 18 faith min for the swordspear, figured I'd get 20 for Deep protection and Caressing tears for those gank squads. Prisoners chain as it's pretty much needed to give the build any sort of viability, ring of steel protection is equipped to kind of counter the effects, but the heavy armor offsets the prisoners chain a fair bit on it's own anyway.
Last edited by Joshie Boi ☕; Jun 7, 2016 @ 4:39pm
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LOL that's not an ornstein build. That's a build that uses ornsteins armor
Joshie Boi ☕ Jun 7, 2016 @ 5:02pm 
Originally posted by Prince <TH>:
LOL that's not an ornstein build. That's a build that uses ornsteins armor

Ok, what would you do then? Kind of impossible to throw any decent faith levels into this build without making it unviable due to the high vitality requirement to wear the armor and the swordspear/dragonslayer spear.
Last edited by Joshie Boi ☕; Jun 7, 2016 @ 5:04pm
Originally posted by Joshua |UKCS|:
Originally posted by Prince <TH>:
LOL that's not an ornstein build. That's a build that uses ornsteins armor

Ok, what would you do then?
Get rid of everything except for dragon slayer spear. Considering the WA sucks in this game, maybe use a lightning spear or stake
Joshie Boi ☕ Jun 7, 2016 @ 5:08pm 
Originally posted by Prince <TH>:
Originally posted by Joshua |UKCS|:

Ok, what would you do then?
Get rid of everything except for dragon slayer spear. Considering the WA sucks in this game, maybe use a lightning spear or stake

Not sure i agree, the Lightning charge on the dragonslayer spear is pretty good at punishing rolls, and the Swordspears weapon art can be brutal.
Last edited by Joshie Boi ☕; Jun 7, 2016 @ 5:08pm
Originally posted by Joshua |UKCS|:
Originally posted by Prince <TH>:
Get rid of everything except for dragon slayer spear. Considering the WA sucks in this game, maybe use a lightning spear or stake

Not sure i agree, the Lightning charge on the dragonslayer spear is pretty good at punishing rolls, and the Swordspears weapon art can be brutal.
I'm not saying your set up is bad, because it's not. I love the sword spear, it's just not ornstein, which is the build you wanted
Joshie Boi ☕ Jun 7, 2016 @ 5:19pm 
Originally posted by Prince <TH>:
Originally posted by Joshua |UKCS|:

Not sure i agree, the Lightning charge on the dragonslayer spear is pretty good at punishing rolls, and the Swordspears weapon art can be brutal.
I'm not saying your set up is bad, because it's not. I love the sword spear, it's just not ornstein, which is the build you wanted

Oh no, the dragonslayer spear is the main focus, I just slapped the swordspear on the build calc to show the need for the vitality, as I'll occassionally be swapping to that weapon. Sorry, should've made that clear in the OP.

I'd love to throw some damaging miracles in as well, but with the ring & high faith requirement for them to actually be worth using, it's just not possible sadly.
Last edited by Joshie Boi ☕; Jun 7, 2016 @ 5:21pm
Originally posted by Joshua |UKCS|:
Originally posted by Prince <TH>:
I'm not saying your set up is bad, because it's not. I love the sword spear, it's just not ornstein, which is the build you wanted

Oh no, the dragonslayer spear is the main focus, I just slapped the swordspear on the build calc to show the need for the vitality, as I'll occassionally be swapping to that weapon. Sorry, should've made that clear in the OP.

I'd love to throw some damaging miracles in as well, but with the ring & high faith requirement for them to actually be worth using, it's just not possible sadly.
Both the DS spear and DS sword spear scale with faith right? So it would probably be worth while to invest some points into fth. Then you can also use the miracles
Joshie Boi ☕ Jun 7, 2016 @ 5:53pm 
Originally posted by Prince <TH>:
Originally posted by Joshua |UKCS|:

Oh no, the dragonslayer spear is the main focus, I just slapped the swordspear on the build calc to show the need for the vitality, as I'll occassionally be swapping to that weapon. Sorry, should've made that clear in the OP.

I'd love to throw some damaging miracles in as well, but with the ring & high faith requirement for them to actually be worth using, it's just not possible sadly.
Both the DS spear and DS sword spear scale with faith right? So it would probably be worth while to invest some points into fth. Then you can also use the miracles

They do, but barely for it to be worth punching points into faith for.

They both gain +1 AR for each point of faith, putting points into strength would result in more gain, but dex provides overall the best output per individual stat spent. In a non heavy armor build, these work best under a quality build.

Needed to make some sacrifices stat wise though in order to be able to wear the heavy armor plus the weapons, so strength was the stat i chose to dump, going from 25 to 40 strength only increases the AR by about 30, so it's not that much of a damage loss.
Last edited by Joshie Boi ☕; Jun 7, 2016 @ 5:55pm
Originally posted by Joshua |UKCS|:
Originally posted by Prince <TH>:
Both the DS spear and DS sword spear scale with faith right? So it would probably be worth while to invest some points into fth. Then you can also use the miracles

They do, but barely for it to be worth punching points into faith for.

They both gain +1 AR for each point of faith, putting points into strength would result in more gain, but dex provides overall the best output per individual stat spent. In a non heavy armor build, these work best under a quality build.

Needed to make some sacrifices stat wise though in order to be able to wear the heavy armor plus the weapons, so strength was the stat i chose to dump, going from 25 to 40 strength only increases the AR by about 30, so it's not that much of a damage loss.
It looks like the FTH scaling is garbage for them, but it actually HEAVILY effects their L2s from what I've seen. Ornstein's Spear wouldn't do much with the minimum FTH requirement, that's for sure.
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Date Posted: Jun 7, 2016 @ 4:37pm
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