Tales of Symphonia

Tales of Symphonia

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Tatsuya Feb 2, 2016 @ 12:16am
Wait, this game has DRM?
I just heard the game has some form of DRM that isn't steam, anyone mind telling me what it is?
Already regretting my purchase and i got the game for free because of zestiria.
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Mesarthim Feb 2, 2016 @ 12:17am 
VMProtect

Puts a new exe every session into your root C:, folder named TL
Last edited by Mesarthim; Feb 2, 2016 @ 12:18am
Tatsuya Feb 2, 2016 @ 12:19am 
Originally posted by Mesarthim:
VMProtect

Puts a new exe every session into your root C:
Thanks, uninstalling and not reinstalling unless they remove it, pretty much guarantees i won't buy beseria until i know if it has drm or not either.
Blue Wizard Feb 2, 2016 @ 12:19am 
Yep, it's called lazyconsoleport.exe
Lu2 Feb 2, 2016 @ 12:21am 
Originally posted by Mesarthim:
VMProtect

Puts a new exe every session into your root C:, folder named TL
maybe thats why it takes milion years to get save/load menu
Last edited by Lu2; Feb 2, 2016 @ 12:21am
Monterossa Feb 2, 2016 @ 12:38am 
I hate these developers' attempts to screw up the software pirates. Most of the time it hurts their customers more than the pirates.
Last edited by Monterossa; Feb 2, 2016 @ 12:41am
Tatsuya Feb 2, 2016 @ 12:41am 
Originally posted by Monterossa:
I hate these developers' attempt to screw up the software pirates. Most of the time it hurts their customers more than the pirates.
It also hurts bamco, because like i said, any chance of me preordering beseria when it comes to the US is 0, i can't stand DRM, no matter what form it takes, and since i can't trust bamco to release a 20$ budget title without drm, i'm certainly not going to trust them to release a 50$ title without it.
Diviance Feb 2, 2016 @ 12:44am 
Originally posted by Tatsuya:
Originally posted by Monterossa:
I hate these developers' attempt to screw up the software pirates. Most of the time it hurts their customers more than the pirates.
It also hurts bamco, because like i said, any chance of me preordering beseria when it comes to the US is 0, i can't stand DRM, no matter what form it takes, and since i can't trust bamco to release a 20$ budget title without drm, i'm certainly not going to trust them to release a 50$ title without it.

Funny to see someone complaining about this on Steam, which is itself a form of DRM which precious few games don't use.
Monterossa Feb 2, 2016 @ 12:48am 
Originally posted by Diviance:
Originally posted by Tatsuya:
It also hurts bamco, because like i said, any chance of me preordering beseria when it comes to the US is 0, i can't stand DRM, no matter what form it takes, and since i can't trust bamco to release a 20$ budget title without drm, i'm certainly not going to trust them to release a 50$ title without it.

Funny to see someone complaining about this on Steam, which is itself a form of DRM which precious few games don't use.

except Steam doesn't encrypt games or run the games on virtual system like this game.
Tatsuya Feb 2, 2016 @ 12:51am 
Originally posted by Diviance:
Originally posted by Tatsuya:
It also hurts bamco, because like i said, any chance of me preordering beseria when it comes to the US is 0, i can't stand DRM, no matter what form it takes, and since i can't trust bamco to release a 20$ budget title without drm, i'm certainly not going to trust them to release a 50$ title without it.

Funny to see someone complaining about this on Steam, which is itself a form of DRM which precious few games don't use.
I tolerate steam, doesn't mean i like it ( i usually buy games from gog if i have a choice due to their no DRM policy), steam as much of a drm as it is, doesn't do odd things to my hardware.
Diviance Feb 2, 2016 @ 12:51am 
Originally posted by Monterossa:
except Steam doesn't encrypt games or run the games on virtual system like this game.

And? DRM is DRM. He didn't say he couldn't stand specific types of DRM, he said he couldn't stand DRM at all.

I am shocked people seem to kind of expect games to come without DRM these days, considering that a very significant portion of them do. It isn't something that will be going away soon, after all.
Diviance Feb 2, 2016 @ 12:52am 
Originally posted by Tatsuya:
I tolerate steam, doesn't mean i like it ( i usually buy games from gog if i have a choice due to their no DRM policy), steam as much of a drm as it is, doesn't do odd things to my hardware.

Most DRM doesn't do odd things to your hardware, either... the ones that did kind of, you know, died out. Because it♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥people off.
Deihnyx Feb 2, 2016 @ 12:53am 
I don't mind DRMs as long as they're not super invasive and actually give you something more (like achievement for Steam)

This is just ridiculous. I was going to buy the game a second time. Well nope.

Namco it's either you remove that crap or you're gonna lose customers.

Oh irony, I thought protecting a game was done to make people buy games instead of pirating it... hm...
Last edited by Deihnyx; Feb 2, 2016 @ 12:53am
Duck Feb 2, 2016 @ 12:55am 
I got this game when I bought Zesteria but I haven't played this yet. Why did they suddenly implement that kind of safeguard if it can even be called that?
Diviance Feb 2, 2016 @ 12:58am 
Originally posted by Deihnyx:

Oh irony, I thought protecting a game was done to make people buy games instead of pirating it... hm...

Realistically, DRM is simply done to prevent piracy and, if possible, increase sales. Though the increasing sales is kind of a by product of making it the only viable option of obtaining the game.
Tatsuya Feb 2, 2016 @ 1:00am 
Originally posted by Diviance:
Originally posted by Tatsuya:
I tolerate steam, doesn't mean i like it ( i usually buy games from gog if i have a choice due to their no DRM policy), steam as much of a drm as it is, doesn't do odd things to my hardware.

Most DRM doesn't do odd things to your hardware, either... the ones that did kind of, you know, died out. Because it♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥people off.
VMProtect writes to your HDD every time you boot the game, it may be minor but anyone with an SSD knows that every write to your drive is slowly killing it, yes VMProtect is harmful, though how much so is very debatable.

Denuvo on the other hand, no, i refuse to buy a game with denuvo, the new deus ex game is a good example of a game that i want to play, but refuse to because of DRM, just cause 3 as well.

Yes steam is DRM, but it's still noninvasive DRM, we know what steam does so while i dislike DRM in general, it's still not something like denuvo, VMProtect or starforce.
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