Tree of Savior (English Ver.)

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Pablo Escobar May 28, 2016 @ 12:41pm
Which is the fastest way to get Arde Dagger?
1.Farming till u have enough money
2.Farming>>Boss rushing >> open it twice
3.Any better idea?
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Geir May 28, 2016 @ 12:46pm 
Just do boss run, and open it save the silver by doing it daily and hoping you get it on first.
A friend of mine got 3 in a row so is not impossible.
Last edited by Geir; May 28, 2016 @ 12:48pm
Pablo Escobar May 28, 2016 @ 12:48pm 
Originally posted by NitroChiral:
Just do boss run, and open it save the silver by doing it daily and hoping you get it on first.

Thanks for answering. I hope so, but my first time I got 8talt (with 3 runs)
uNluCky13tH May 28, 2016 @ 12:50pm 
Argee with the Boss run way , I got it on 9th box.
Good luck :)
Kyutaru May 28, 2016 @ 1:45pm 
I would actually buy it. Much faster. The opening box method is slow and unreliable, it can take weeks to get an Arde Dagger that way.

Most players open countless boxes and see no Arde Dagger. The average is 90 boxes and I personally went over 100 without one.
Samael May 28, 2016 @ 1:48pm 
Originally posted by Kyutaru:
I would actually buy it. Much faster. The opening box method is slow and unreliable, it can take weeks to get an Arde Dagger that way.

Most players open countless boxes and see no Arde Dagger. The average is 90 boxes and I personally went over 100 without one.

Dude that's 5% chance. If you opened 100 and you didnt get the dagger you are VERY UNLUCKY.

You should get a dagger every 20 boxes approx.

Stop the lie.
Geir May 28, 2016 @ 1:55pm 
Well opened like 10 myself and got 2, but they are 3 easy runs and they are like 5-10 mins total depending on your dps, even 90-100.
Last edited by Geir; May 28, 2016 @ 1:57pm
Kyutaru May 28, 2016 @ 1:57pm 
Originally posted by Samael:
Originally posted by Kyutaru:
I would actually buy it. Much faster. The opening box method is slow and unreliable, it can take weeks to get an Arde Dagger that way.

Most players open countless boxes and see no Arde Dagger. The average is 90 boxes and I personally went over 100 without one.

Dude that's 5% chance. If you opened 100 and you didnt get the dagger you are VERY UNLUCKY.

You should get a dagger every 20 boxes approx.

Stop the lie.
Dude, the 5% chance is the lie. Please stop spreading false information perpetuated to this day by random trolls. Literally everyone I have been farming with experienced the same piss poor drop rate and this comes from the fact that you have to first beat the other drop rates to even have a chance at an Arde.

Visit the official forums to see the countless runs players have done. Most have spent their entire time since early access farming Arde and are only finally achieving it. The reported drop rate you boast was of a difference time period and rightly changed.
Geir May 28, 2016 @ 1:59pm 
Well the information gatherd says 5% drop chance, beetleback is 10% and you get that fairly more often then the dagger.
Samael May 28, 2016 @ 2:07pm 
Originally posted by Kyutaru:
Originally posted by Samael:

Dude that's 5% chance. If you opened 100 and you didnt get the dagger you are VERY UNLUCKY.

You should get a dagger every 20 boxes approx.

Stop the lie.
Dude, the 5% chance is the lie. Please stop spreading false information perpetuated to this day by random trolls. Literally everyone I have been farming with experienced the same piss poor drop rate and this comes from the fact that you have to first beat the other drop rates to even have a chance at an Arde.

Visit the official forums to see the countless runs players have done. Most have spent their entire time since early access farming Arde and are only finally achieving it. The reported drop rate you boast was of a difference time period and rightly changed.

Unless you can compile all the runs and make some sort of table with real % ... don't tell me that the 5% is a lie because you can't.

On your side you are telling me that you been farming with people that wasnt so lucky getting the dagger but FOR ME this is not what i experienced. I even saw someone get 2 in a row. Got mine in 5 runs lol.

So can you please stop spreading false information ;)
Last edited by Samael; May 28, 2016 @ 2:08pm
Kyutaru May 28, 2016 @ 2:22pm 
Originally posted by Samael:
Originally posted by Kyutaru:
Dude, the 5% chance is the lie. Please stop spreading false information perpetuated to this day by random trolls. Literally everyone I have been farming with experienced the same piss poor drop rate and this comes from the fact that you have to first beat the other drop rates to even have a chance at an Arde.

Visit the official forums to see the countless runs players have done. Most have spent their entire time since early access farming Arde and are only finally achieving it. The reported drop rate you boast was of a difference time period and rightly changed.

Unless you can compile all the runs and make some sort of table with real % ... don't tell me that the 5% is a lie because you can't.

On your side you are telling me that you been farming with people that wasnt so lucky getting the dagger but FOR ME this is not what i experienced. I even saw someone get 2 in a row. Got mine in 5 runs lol.

So can you please stop spreading false information ;)
That's exactly what was done! Repeating myself for the third time - visit the official forums.

You'd have to be braindead troll to believe people are willing to pay 750,000 (and upwards of 1.2 million silver back in the day) for an item you can easily get in 5 runs.

The information you are basing your entire faith upon is OLD and obsolete. You aren't basing your claims on actual farming data, you're going by the Internet. As though that's NEVER BEEN WRONG BEFORE!

So again, stop spreading false information. It's a myth that's been debunked for over a month.

FYI - The theory posited by the farming data collectors is that the decimal was misplaced. Since the average is 90 runs for players to acquire an Arde, the drop rate is closer to 0.5% chance. Considering there's a player screenshot showing two Vubbe Fighter Bloods dropping in a row on the same kill, RNG happens.
Last edited by Kyutaru; May 28, 2016 @ 2:33pm
Samael May 28, 2016 @ 2:35pm 
You're so wrong dude. Ill stop believing what people tells me on the internet. Following your advice. You included.
Last edited by Samael; May 28, 2016 @ 2:36pm
Geir May 28, 2016 @ 4:24pm 
Well we are 3 already in previous post saying we gotten it with 1-20 boxes, so the facts are already more true then you wish to believe Kyu. Funny notice I just helped some other players get 1 each a moment ago and we only did like 9 runs with 3 diffrent characters. So there must be some truth, also market is always over priced as hell for the most of it.
Revolucas May 29, 2016 @ 12:05am 
The drop chance might be 5% in the code but when you have multiple competeing items that can drop, too, then the percent is actually skewed and most likely unknown even to the developers. It really depends on how the loot system was created but consider this example: Say you have a drop list of 30 items and the item you want has a drop chance of 5% and then there is another drop list with 10 items with one item having a drop chance of 5%, the item in the list of 10 items will have a better chance to drop.
Last edited by Revolucas; May 29, 2016 @ 12:18am
76561198192241827 May 29, 2016 @ 12:29am 
Originally posted by Samael:
Originally posted by Kyutaru:
I would actually buy it. Much faster. The opening box method is slow and unreliable, it can take weeks to get an Arde Dagger that way.

Most players open countless boxes and see no Arde Dagger. The average is 90 boxes and I personally went over 100 without one.

Dude that's 5% chance. If you opened 100 and you didnt get the dagger you are VERY UNLUCKY.

You should get a dagger every 20 boxes approx.

Stop the lie.
If you think 100 box = 5% to get a dagger then you have no idea how RNG and works each box has is own individual % drop chance you can open 1 ,10 ,or 1000 and get 1 ,10 or 1000 daggers or nothing at all
Negatron May 29, 2016 @ 1:12am 
I don't believe the 5% ish either, I've done 46 dungeon runs. Recieved 5 beetle back recipes and the rest talt
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