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Possibility of running New Game Plus second time - make Apollo happy?
Is it possible to choose New Game Plus save file as a source for second New Game Plus?

I wonder if theoretically possible beat the game at level 1, then start it with skipping prologue, and enter Rookie Dungeon with level 1 to make Apollo happy.
(I tried to balance exp gain, finally stuck with "you were 2 level at the dungeon start" Apollo line, have no idea how to be non-cheater)
Last edited by mapron; Jan 12 @ 5:08pm
Originally posted by Ernsteen:
1) Yes you can use an NG+ fiel to start another NG+.
2) Choosing the No Exp modifier and skipping chapter 1 will leave you at lvl 1 anyway.
3) You Trophy score does not deplete, so you can start as many NG+ games as you like, the trophy score is just a hard ceiling for how many modifiers you can use at once.
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Bug Jan 13 @ 12:57am 
Unrelated,
Do you keep your Trophy score if you want to restart New Game + due to having bad modifiers?
Last edited by Bug; Jan 13 @ 12:57am
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Ernsteen Jan 13 @ 8:39am 
1) Yes you can use an NG+ fiel to start another NG+.
2) Choosing the No Exp modifier and skipping chapter 1 will leave you at lvl 1 anyway.
3) You Trophy score does not deplete, so you can start as many NG+ games as you like, the trophy score is just a hard ceiling for how many modifiers you can use at once.
mapron Jan 13 @ 9:20am 
1) Thanks!
2) Yes, I know. But i need to have some XP gain, to get level 3 at the end of dungeon! Otherwise Apollo still call me a cheater because level is too LOW!
3) Yes, I know that, that not the thing I was aware about.
(upd: I now get it was not for me)

So I am trying to get combination where I will have 1 level at the bridge and 3 level at the end of dungeon. But I only way I see now is to carry level out of finished game in "Space". Otherwise if i do not have '0 exp" i will be already 2 level and no to get below that.

Most useful info is (1). Plan is:
1. Finish the NG having level 1 in space
2. start NG++, carry that level and start from bridge
3. Should have 3 at the end
4. Want to see at his face.

Last edited by mapron; Jan 13 @ 9:20am
Ernsteen Jan 13 @ 9:33am 
You could make life infinitely easier on yourself by just changing your level in the savefile with a savefile editor.
Last edited by Ernsteen; Jan 13 @ 9:34am
Bug Jan 13 @ 2:34pm 
Originally posted by Ernsteen:
1) Yes you can use an NG+ fiel to start another NG+.
2) Choosing the No Exp modifier and skipping chapter 1 will leave you at lvl 1 anyway.
3) You Trophy score does not deplete, so you can start as many NG+ games as you like, the trophy score is just a hard ceiling for how many modifiers you can use at once.

Thanks too!
OP let us know how it goes with Apollo
Last edited by Bug; Jan 13 @ 2:35pm
mapron Jan 13 @ 3:04pm 
No. It does not working. My save game with level 1 ending just does not appear to select for NG+ !
Seems like devs was though about avery posibility to become not-cheater :)

Waste of 6 hours to test that =( Actualy, final boss is pretty hard on level 1 even with all items.
mapron Jan 13 @ 3:05pm 
If I change something in save file manually, I do not believe I would see some scripted scene.
Ravo Jan 13 @ 4:43pm 
I don't know about making Apollo happy, but start NG+ with your level, your gear, and Sergey's hacks will make him very, very unhappy.
EDIT: Giving it a moment of thought, I don't think there is a way to appease Apollo. Like at all. Him suspecting Lea of cheating is the driving force behind his infatuation with her and the only reason he becomes a named character at all. If that were gone, his entire motivation would need to be rewritten. That's a huge difference from a few dialog changes here or there with other NG+ features activated.
Last edited by Ravo; Jan 13 @ 4:48pm
mapron Jan 14 @ 9:48am 
I know about Sergey Hacks. My last playthrough was using them (hey, is there any fast way to play at level 1 without them? no stats, no skills, items maybe but it not help a lot at the end of the game! Turrets in Vermillion was like instakilling me already)

And yes, I suppose even if dev make I line where he satisfied by level, he could say something "you finished it too fast!"
Actually, there is easy way - dig into database.json, but I'm lazy now :D
pcguru Jan 15 @ 5:32pm 
I don't think "you finished it too fast" would actually make sense, Apollo himself states that this is his third character. Just already knowing a dungeon ahead of time would not lead to cheat accusations.. So it would be more likely, if appeasment was a thing, that instead of calling you out for level-inconsistencies, that instead he friendlily assumes you to be on a second or third character, just like himself, and that this is the sympathy he gathers towards you and then continues to want to compete with you in some overly enthusiastic manner (to justify his handmotions and stuff)
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