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QuentinVV Mar 24, 2017 @ 3:38am
The Ruined World Problem
Excuse the dramatic title :-)

One of the youtube discussions brought up the fact that the cities destroyed in greenskin or undead invasions never repair themselves. In time this may leave the world feeling too small (and sad) and also limit your options for trading.

So…
Is this true?
Can this be reasonably prevented in play? (like defending the cities by yourself)
At what day does end-game crises usualy hit? (first and any subsequent ones)
Is it wise to choose "War" as the first crises because this doesn't ruin any cities?
Will different crises arise after the "War" if I specificaly choose "War" at the start?
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HypnoToad Mar 24, 2017 @ 3:46am 
Yes to pretty much all your questions. The first crisis typically hits past day 80, sometimes I get 'em as late as day 100. War crisis does prevent destroyed cities but once its completed the other crisis will come soon after. In my experience I get notifications of it some 30 days after, then after a dozen or more days it will officially start.

War crisis might be the most friendly crisis in that you dont need to actively participate and it wont negatively impact you, other than limiting the convoy contracts.
Horoai Mar 24, 2017 @ 3:55am 
For me it went like this:
First crisis - noble war. No destroyed towns obviously. Only captured ones,
Second crisis - undead. No destryoed towns.
Third crisis - orcs. Cleaned out a tons of spawning nest but apparently I didn't go south enough. Lost a castle of a house I don't care for.
Sarissofoi (Banned) Mar 24, 2017 @ 4:20am 
I can not beat orcs.
It is 3th crisis and so far they destroyed 1 castle, 1 city and 4 villages.
I killed hundreds of them, burn dozen camps and id contracts but it do not help.
Ulrich Mar 24, 2017 @ 4:21am 
I think people overreacting about this. I dont lost any town during these crisis (now playing during orc crisis and im doing well). Just play and see how that goes. If you lose same not worthy villages, thats not big deal. Most of time, you dont use all towns/villages/castles, because they dont have anything to offer for you.
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HypnoToad Mar 24, 2017 @ 4:27am 
I personally enjoy the greenkin crisis more than any other. I generally pick it as the first crisis, and sure settlements will be lost, but it has always been the fastest crisis for me. Though I feel success may be dependent on how the map is generated. Sometimes villages are located right on the border with large amounts of goblin/orc territory.

Plus I love slaughtering goblin wolfriders which attack me by the hundreds. I generally keep doing the contracts, and just randomly killing raiding parties and eventually it ends. You do receive some sort of indication if youre winning the war. Not sure if it helps but if you get the ocntract to lure out the warlord it generally gives me a significant boost to the war cause.
Muscarine Mar 24, 2017 @ 4:27am 
Originally posted by 33rdUlrich:
I think people overreacting about this. I dont lose any town during these crisis (now playing during orc crisis and im doing well). Just play and see how that goes. If you lose same not worthy villages, thats not big deal. Most of time, you dont use all towns/villages/castles, because they dont have anything to offer for you.

Well over a long term playthrough it's inevitable and your world will shrink progressively into nothing.
While it's true you don't need all the towns, having everything reduced to a handful locations is not really exciting.

If you look at Sarissofoi's playthrough he's quite succesful but his world is still progressively disappearing and there's not much he can do about it.

Even if they don't introduce a rebuild mechanic, long playthrough worlds need a mechanic that allows them to keep breathing and being interesting.
Zensalin1 Mar 24, 2017 @ 4:29am 
The option no crises prevents this, but you will miss out on some stuff.
Ulrich Mar 24, 2017 @ 4:41am 
@Muscarine

Well, thats mean its good time to retire and start new a game. But, in this game we are playing as MERCENARIES not a world SAVERS. Even game tips says, dont play as hero, you are just running your business.

P.S. Im not against rebuilding villages.
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Horoai Mar 24, 2017 @ 4:43am 
Originally posted by 33rdUlrich:
@Muscarine

Well, thats mean its good time to retire and start new a game. But, in this game we are playing as MERCENARIES not a world SAVERS. Even game tips says, dont play as hero, you are just running your business.

P.S. Im not against rebuilding villages.

I don't think anyone has considered changing profession and joining the builder business....
QuentinVV Mar 24, 2017 @ 4:45am 
Ulrich: I see the exact opposite. The fact that the world needs saving demotivates me from retiring (who would sleep in a burning house) and pushes me to be a hero.
Imz Frozen Mar 24, 2017 @ 4:49am 
Day 1424 on Expert and no towns destroyed, mostly because I got good placed Harbors. Map means a lot and it's worth to waste 1 hour trying to get a good one.

http://imgur.com/a/pfu5q
Ulrich Mar 24, 2017 @ 4:51am 
Originally posted by Kehzf:
Day 1424 on Expert and no towns destroyed, mostly because I got good placed Harbors. Map means a lot and it's worth to waste 1 hour trying to get a good one.

http://imgur.com/a/pfu5q

Impressive. I never played so many days in one go :)
QuentinVV Mar 24, 2017 @ 4:52am 
Originally posted by Kehzf:
Day 1424 on Expert and no towns destroyed, mostly because I got good placed Harbors. Map means a lot and it's worth to waste 1 hour trying to get a good one.

http://imgur.com/a/pfu5q
What is a good map? How are choosing them?
Imz Frozen Mar 24, 2017 @ 4:55am 
Originally posted by QuentinVV:
Originally posted by Kehzf:
Day 1424 on Expert and no towns destroyed, mostly because I got good placed Harbors. Map means a lot and it's worth to waste 1 hour trying to get a good one.

http://imgur.com/a/pfu5q
What is a good map? How are choosing them?

Having Harbors close to every town, in my case only Talbach is far away from a Harbor. Also, you want to avoid having swamp near your towns, as you can see on my map, the swamp area is mostly in the wilderness.
Last edited by Imz Frozen; Mar 24, 2017 @ 4:56am
Sarissofoi (Banned) Mar 24, 2017 @ 5:04am 
Originally posted by Kehzf:
Day 1424 on Expert and no towns destroyed, mostly because I got good placed Harbors. Map means a lot and it's worth to waste 1 hour trying to get a good one.

http://imgur.com/a/pfu5q

Great map.
Do you have save with day 1?



Originally posted by 33rdUlrich:
I think people overreacting about this. I dont lost any town during these crisis (now playing during orc crisis and im doing well). Just play and see how that goes. If you lose same not worthy villages, thats not big deal. Most of time, you dont use all towns/villages/castles, because they dont have anything to offer for you.

Problem is the timing and placement of settlements.
IRazing happen to fast and its easy to miss - also mostly you will not make it in time even if you notice.
At the point when all attachments are destroyed city can burn very easily.
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