Ask me lore questions

[Reverend Belial]

Alright, I guess it's about time that I updated this description.

This is a place for newcomers to the lore, or veterans looking to fact-check, to come and ask questions about the lore of Warhammer Fantasy.

FAQ:
Q: Is 40k and Fantasy the same universe?
A: No. 40k discussions go in this thread. http://steamcommunity.com/app/364360/discussions/0/333656722976215057/

Q: What is the End Times and why did it happen?
A: The End Times is the destruction of the Warhammer Fantasy setting, both in and out of universe. Chaos won the final confrontation and destroyed the world, beginning a new cycle and franchise. Out-of-universe this was done because Fantasy's models were costing Games Workshop more money than they were making them so they decided to scrap the setting entirely and reboot it as an 80's power metal album cover.

Disclaimers/Guidelines (I know that we're not supposed to back-seat moderate but sometimes it's necessary to keep things organized):
1. The most important thing; I AM NOT ALWAYS RIGHT. Do not take what I say as the gospel truth, I can forget and I can misread things just like everybody else. My knowledge of the Elves is also pretty shady. There are several regulars around who tend to fill in blanks or correct me if I'm wrong though, so you'll probably get your answer regardless.

2. Repeat questions are ok, so long as the question hasn't been asked on the same page or the one before it. I don't expect anybody to sift through 3000+ posts, but a light skim of the previous page won't kill anybody.

3. GW is extremely vague on many things, so sometimes there just simply isn't an answer to your question. They're also prone to retcons so sometimes what you think is the answer is no longer valid.

4. Try to avoid arguments. I know that sometimes they're unavoidable, but please don't deliberately antagonize anybody. Pretty basic.

5. Sit back, read, and enjoy.

6. No questions about CA's design decisions, or attempts to explain them. It's pointless, and just starts arguments and existential despair.

7. No using the word "strawman". It's a personal thing, it just grates on me.

8. No continuing the "Skaven don't exist" meme outside the context of the lore. I know it's fun sometimes, but it's old, tired, and just wants to rest. Plus it grates on other people.

[Heretic]

can you remind me why balthasar gelt betrays the empire in the end times?

[Reverend Belial]

Originally posted by strikingscorp32:

can you remind me why balthasar gelt betrays the empire in the end times?

He doesn't betray them per se. He learned the art of necromancy in order to become more powerful, and once the Empire found out they turned on him because they had assumed that he betrayed them. Ultimately I believe his intention was to use that new power to help the Empire survive.

[[L9] Rhinopotamus]

Originally posted by Reverend Belial:

Originally posted by strikingscorp32:

can you remind me why balthasar gelt betrays the empire in the end times?

He doesn't betray them per se. He learned the art of necromancy in order to become more powerful, and once the Empire found out they turned on him because they had assumed that he betrayed them. Ultimately I believe his intention was to use that new power to help the Empire survive.

He went from Warhammer Necromancer to D2 Necromancer.

[Heretic]

do you think it is absolutely funny that the lady in the lake is actually Lileath?

(I do)

[Reverend Belial]

Originally posted by strikingscorp32:

do you think it is absolutely funny that the lady in the lake is actually Lileath?

(I do)

I was never especially interested in Bretonnia (until recently), so that revelation never really effected me one way or another.

[Retro]

what would be the most scariest dominate faction that could enter this games world, like something that even makes chaos quiver?

[Reverend Belial]

Originally posted by Tabula Rasa:

what would be the most scariest dominate faction that could enter this games world, like something that even makes chaos quiver?

I'm not sure what you mean by "dominate faction"? Do you just mean like a group from a different universe, or is there something I'm not getting (or some translation error perhaps)?

[[L9] Rhinopotamus]

Originally posted by Reverend Belial:

Originally posted by Tabula Rasa:

what would be the most scariest dominate faction that could enter this games world, like something that even makes chaos quiver?

I'm not sure what you mean by "dominate faction"? Do you just mean like a group from a different universe, or is there something I'm not getting (or some translation error perhaps)?

Maybe they mean like strength wise? The Slann (Lizardmen) are super powerful with access to all Magical Lores (pardon the Big and Little Waaaghhh!) and that makes them incredibly powerful. Also Giant Lizardmen, riding badass dinosaur-esque beasts, wielding metal aztec like weapons, sworn to defeat chaos...

[[L9] Rhinopotamus]

Beliall do Maw-Krushas and the Ironjawz exsist outside of AoS Lore or are they strickly end times?

[Reverend Belial]

Originally posted by Rhinopotamus:

Beliall do Maw-Krushas and the Ironjawz exsist outside of AoS Lore or are they strickly end times?

Not even End Times, they're purely AoS.

[Darth Alpharius]

It what Year did Mannfred von Carstein die and who killed him?

[Reverend Belial]

Originally posted by Darth Alpharius:

It what Year did Mannfred von Carstein die and who killed him?

That depends on what you mean. If you mean "not coming back" style death like with Vlad then it's yet to happen, but if you mean the first time then I haven't the foggiest.

[Darth Alpharius]

Dead as in never coming back

[Reverend Belial]

Originally posted by Darth Alpharius:

Dead as in never coming back

Ok yeah, in that case it's never happened. Mannfred survived all the way into AoS, and Nagash has condemned him to eternal torment rather than destruction.

[xXBu$$y_$laYerXx]

Probably a very basic question and might have been asked before but, whats the difference between Orc and Ork? I've seen it around a bit and have never been sure. I know nothing about the lore, the game just looks super fun. Thanks in advance :)