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土豪先生 Sep 9, 2015 @ 9:17pm
steam controller can play game on Android Phone?
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Nitrotetrazole Sep 9, 2015 @ 10:17pm 
no
Rhaegar Sep 9, 2015 @ 11:46pm 
Originally posted by Salem:
no

I asked this before but I never got a decent answer. As far as I know if steam is not detected this controller falls back in default which is either mimicking a mouse + keyboard or xbox 360 controller (not sure which it is, or both?). And since the controller has bluetooth it should then just work like using a M+K on your android Phone shouldn't it?
8-Bit Cerberus Sep 10, 2015 @ 12:33am 
The prototype defaults to kb/m outside of Steam. We're not sure yet if the final build does the same, or if it can be set as either kb/m or generic directinput/xinput controller. But yeah, technically it should appear to an Android device as kb/m... whether or not that helps for playing games is anyone's guess.
土豪先生 Sep 10, 2015 @ 12:46am 
Originally posted by Rhaegar:
Originally posted by Salem:
no

I asked this before but I never got a decent answer. As far as I know if steam is not detected this controller falls back in default which is either mimicking a mouse + keyboard or xbox 360 controller (not sure which it is, or both?). And since the controller has bluetooth it should then just work like using a M+K on your android Phone shouldn't it?
Because i think Controller have blueBluetooth can link my phone
土豪先生 Sep 10, 2015 @ 12:47am 
Originally posted by Salem:
no
Steam Controller have Bluetooth
Last edited by 土豪先生; Sep 10, 2015 @ 12:47am
MrSmith Sep 10, 2015 @ 4:11am 
Originally posted by 土豪先生:
Originally posted by Salem:
no
Steam Controller have Bluetooth

So what? My Fridge has Bluetooth. Every goddamn thing has bluetooth now, doesn't mean i can play games on my fridge now.
Rhaegar Sep 10, 2015 @ 4:34am 
Originally posted by MrSmith:
Originally posted by 土豪先生:
Steam Controller have Bluetooth

So what? My Fridge has Bluetooth. Every goddamn thing has bluetooth now, doesn't mean i can play games on my fridge now.

But your fridge doesn't default back to K+M when steam is not detected so I'm not that impressed by your point.
MrSmith Sep 10, 2015 @ 4:49am 
Originally posted by Rhaegar:
But your fridge doesn't default back to K+M when steam is not detected so I'm not that impressed by your point.

But my Fridge is not able to process the input of any form of k/m nor it's emulated counterpart so you simply missed my point.
Nitrotetrazole Sep 10, 2015 @ 10:21am 
ok seriously, possessing bluetooth connectivity dosent implicitly means it will work with anything bluetooth.
The steam controller is, by default, a keyboard/mouse emulator in the guise of a gamepad and we know it defaults to that if plugged in without big picture.
We also know it can be used and recognize as a normal gamepad with games that have gamepad compatibility if you dont wanna use big picture to customize the layout. (i forgot if this kb/m gamepad transition is automatic or manual however.

That still means tho that software is necessary from one side, so the phone in question will need by default, a way to recognize what you just linked with it. Like i said, cerberus would have to correct me on this if he knows how the legacy/controller functions work (i forgot) but in the end, im personally convinced an android phone will just not have in its programming the little bits required to make a steam controller work with it. Not to mention just having games who can recognize its inputs if it even work.

And then there's the fact thats not what the steam controller was made for at all.

Cerberus-senpai correct me if im wrong tho :P
8-Bit Cerberus Sep 10, 2015 @ 11:41am 
Yeah, caveats abound that this info is only from the prototype, but it is a standard HID kb/m everywhere outside of Steam. It's not emulating kb/m, it is kb/m. That's whether in the OS, or even in the BIOS/UEFI setup.

So, technically if the Android device recognizes standard HID input, it should function as a kb/m for the Android device. Whether it will pair via bluetooth is unknown (especially if in pairing you have to enter a PIN), but a USB connection might work just fine.

The final build, we don't yet know if it always reverts to HID kb/m outside of Steam, or if it retains the last firmware/configuration flashed to it. If it retains the firmware, and the last configuration was as, say an xinput controller, then it likely will not work on Android at all. Directinput controller, maybe, though doubtful. If there are Android drivers for xinput/directinput controllers, then you might have some luck there. Otherwise if it retains the last firmware, you'd have to remember to reset it as kb/m if you want it to work on Android. Again, though, that all depends on the Android device and whether it will pair with the bluetooth or plug in with USB.
Last edited by 8-Bit Cerberus; Sep 10, 2015 @ 11:43am
土豪先生 Sep 10, 2015 @ 10:37pm 
Originally posted by 8-Bit Cerberus:
Yeah, caveats abound that this info is only from the prototype, but it is a standard HID kb/m everywhere outside of Steam. It's not emulating kb/m, it is kb/m. That's whether in the OS, or even in the BIOS/UEFI setup.

So, technically if the Android device recognizes standard HID input, it should function as a kb/m for the Android device. Whether it will pair via bluetooth is unknown (especially if in pairing you have to enter a PIN), but a USB connection might work just fine.

The final build, we don't yet know if it always reverts to HID kb/m outside of Steam, or if it retains the last firmware/configuration flashed to it. If it retains the firmware, and the last configuration was as, say an xinput controller, then it likely will not work on Android at all. Directinput controller, maybe, though doubtful. If there are Android drivers for xinput/directinput controllers, then you might have some luck there. Otherwise if it retains the last firmware, you'd have to remember to reset it as kb/m if you want it to work on Android. Again, though, that all depends on the Android device and whether it will pair with the bluetooth or plug in with USB.
thank you,i can think steam controller suppest xinput,and controller can direct to play suppest xbox360 handle game in pc?
土豪先生 Sep 10, 2015 @ 10:40pm 
Originally posted by Salem:
ok seriously, possessing bluetooth connectivity dosent implicitly means it will work with anything bluetooth.
The steam controller is, by default, a keyboard/mouse emulator in the guise of a gamepad and we know it defaults to that if plugged in without big picture.
We also know it can be used and recognize as a normal gamepad with games that have gamepad compatibility if you dont wanna use big picture to customize the layout. (i forgot if this kb/m gamepad transition is automatic or manual however.

That still means tho that software is necessary from one side, so the phone in question will need by default, a way to recognize what you just linked with it. Like i said, cerberus would have to correct me on this if he knows how the legacy/controller functions work (i forgot) but in the end, im personally convinced an android phone will just not have in its programming the little bits required to make a steam controller work with it. Not to mention just having games who can recognize its inputs if it even work.

And then there's the fact thats not what the steam controller was made for at all.

Cerberus-senpai correct me if im wrong tho :P
thank you,i can think steam controller suppest xinput,and controller can direct to play suppest xbox360 handle game in pc?if can do this,steam controller woule be very well~~
Rhaegar Sep 10, 2015 @ 11:33pm 
Guys I think I can give a pretty much definitive answer that you in fact can use it on your android Phone. Here's a youtube clip with someone actually using the protootype device on his Phone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML-Hkap921w

The Neogaf user Krejloc has done a lot of tests over the months with the prototype and claims you can use it on literally everything which can use a K+M, even your freakin Dreamcast!

Read more in this Neogaf thread, it's extremely comprehensive:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1109900

土豪先生 Sep 11, 2015 @ 2:40am 
Originally posted by Rhaegar:
Guys I think I can give a pretty much definitive answer that you in fact can use it on your android Phone. Here's a youtube clip with someone actually using the protootype device on his Phone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML-Hkap921w

The Neogaf user Krejloc has done a lot of tests over the months with the prototype and claims you can use it on literally everything which can use a K+M, even your freakin Dreamcast!

Read more in this Neogaf thread, it's extremely comprehensive:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1109900
Please tell me steam controller suppest xinput or directput?or it suppest all?
Rhaegar Sep 11, 2015 @ 4:02am 
Originally posted by 土豪先生:
Please tell me steam controller suppest xinput or directput?or it suppest all?

I'm not entirely sure what suppest means but as tought I read somewhere that it would support xinput but I'm not 100% sure on that. The general idea is that the steam customisation interface is far superior to this but for games supporting controllers it should automatically mimick a xbox controller.

But opposed from my other statements this is more guessing and less knowing
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