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Is there anything good to be said about this game or developer(s)?
I've been reading nothing but negativity about the game and the developer. I've read the game is pretty much a WoW clone ripping off UI, graphics and not even bothering to change mob names. I've heard that "minor limitation" isn't so minor and that this game is very much a "cash grab". I've also read that the graphics are dated and the developers delete posts or ban anyone that says anything negative. If that's the case, I don't want to waste my time downloading the game or supporting toxic developers.

So, with that being said, is there anything anyone can say that's good about the game? Any positive comments?

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Brandon May 22, 2015 @ 8:28am 
I've left a positive review, along with others. You can (for free) play the game and at least try it out for a couple hours, see how the players in-game are enjoying it and are friendly and helpful.

Read through the negative reviews again, it's basically the same like three things which are not really even "reviews".

1) People disagree with the f2p model, so they freak out and accuse the game of being a cash grab.

2) People accuse it of being a wow clone. Yea the graphic style is similar, but so what. So is runes of magic. To me personally the graphics are just fine, remember this game came out around 2009. Watch my twitch streams, if they are too outdated for you hey that's cool, it's not the game for you then.

3) Personal attacks against the owner. Derek has a strong personality and doesnt put up with BS. So what? That doesn't change the entertainment value of the game. Don't post stupid trolling stuff here and you won't have an issue.

I would say he "real" reviews would be from people who genuinely just didnt find the game entertaining, maybe they prefer the newer ARPG style, or want 2015 graphics, stuff like that. Again, totally cool, just means this is not the game for you if so.
Two in the Pink May 22, 2015 @ 8:31am 
What's the max level of the game?
Brandon May 22, 2015 @ 8:35am 
Currently 50. Also there is a sticky thread on f2p limitations, so you can see exactly what you will run into without paying anything.
Two in the Pink May 22, 2015 @ 8:40am 
So you get 30 playable levels for free and 20 you have to pay for? Almost half doesn't sound so "minor" to me. This game looks interesting, I am just pretty skeptical.

Is there any kind of crafting system? Player/Veteran incentives?
Last edited by Two in the Pink; May 22, 2015 @ 8:47am
Blackstrip May 22, 2015 @ 9:15am 
Originally posted by Two in the Pink:
I've read the game is pretty much a WoW clone ripping off UI, graphics and not even bothering to change mob names.

This is totally false. Download game and try to play. There is no ripped UI (but interface model like in wow, swtor, rift, etc. - bags buttons, panels for skill buttons), graphics and mob names are not from WoW.

Art, screens, videos:
Really sad when a developer of a game has to go and make one of the few positive reviews for a game.
Two in the Pink May 22, 2015 @ 9:33am 
Originally posted by jester_the_nightmare:
Really sad when a developer of a game has to go and make one of the few positive reviews for a game.

To be honest, I didn't think they were allowed to review their own games, it will always be biased.

I just wanted honest opinions of honest unbiased players that play the game.
Brandon May 22, 2015 @ 9:44am 
They didnt review their own game. Blackstrip is not a developer as far as I know, and I am just a forum mod. I don't think Derek is the type to "stuff" reviews, and in fact they never asked me to even write a review.

There is no conspiracy here...
Last edited by Brandon; May 22, 2015 @ 9:44am
ShoHashi May 22, 2015 @ 9:51am 
Like Blackstrip posted above, download and try the game out, you have nothing to lose and you won't spend a cent. If you like it, then keep playing. If you don't, well, then you are out nothing.

Anyone can read reviews, etc., but you are just getting those people's impressions. You need to try the game for yourself and come up with your own conclusion.
Blackstrip May 22, 2015 @ 12:52pm 
LOL, i am not a developer of Alganon)) but i playing Alganon since 2012 and WoW since 2009. Alganon and WoW - are two different games with different UI, graphics, textures, 3d models,etc.
dsmart  [developer] May 22, 2015 @ 6:05pm 
Originally posted by jester_the_nightmare:
Really sad when a developer of a game has to go and make one of the few positive reviews for a game.

We don't do that. And Steam doesn't even allow it. I don't - and never have - solicited "good" reviews for ANY of my games. Why? Because those are based on personal opinions, where genuine; and I'm not going to waste my time being concerned about it because people will do what they want, regardless.

Aside from Alganon, which I inherited through my investment in the company back in 2010, I have shipped over sixteen games, and have never had to do solicit, let alone write reviews of my games. The most I tend to do is what every developer does. "Hey, if you like the game, write a review".

My games are not for everyone, and I simply don't care about that because I never set out to make cookie-cutter games for the masses.

Obviously, the fact that I can afford to run - and fund - two companies, pay multiple teams to work on various products - and have done so for almost three decades, means that bad (which I don't have a problem with, as long as they are genuine) reviews are meaningless to the financial outcome of my games.

There is no conspiracy here.
Last edited by dsmart; May 22, 2015 @ 6:06pm
EoLynn May 23, 2015 @ 9:21pm 
I agree with Brandon's 3 points of "false" arguments. It saves time for me so I don't have to answer to spoiled/childish commentaries.

So, back to the positive aspects.

About the game

There's an overall feel, quite difficult to define, that could appeal to old players and create various moments of anamnesis. You know, those emotions that come up suddenly when something reminds you of a lost memory. So, people who played games like Everquest, Anarchy Online, Asheron's Call 2, Horizons, Ryzom, etc., might experience this.

- A mix of confusion and sense of wonder on what to do and where to go, having to think a bit by yourself (mostly for Ourobani on the island of Aeon).
- "Slow" leveling even for the 5 first levels, as it was 15 years ago.
- Added features to fine-tune your character development with studies, even offline, with your own priorities set up.
- Rewarding craft creations at early levels.
- Not so expensive and "à la carte" microtransactions for those who want to invest and support the game. Special packages to unlock things, or chunks: you choose.
- Overall nice community. The /3 (help) channel has been very active since launch on Steam and people seem to behave and auto-regulate quite well.
- Really fun new class (Warden). After having already the typical Bear/Feline pair of companions, what if I tamed that tiny crab on the beach? Or that gigantic named raptor 20 feet tall? OMG...
- etc.

About the devs/GMs

- Openness to discussion and suggestions (cf. the ongoing thread) about new features.
- GMs are often ingame asking about how things go.
- They even come where you are to fix bugs or at least see by themselves on the field! (Spinning bears, anyone?)

And I assume there are many other positive aspects. Overall, if I had to resume my feeling in a shorter sentence I would say: "I dunno why, but I like this game".

And more over... I'm having fun.
serverregent May 23, 2015 @ 11:24pm 
Have to agree with Eolynn the classes are fun gameplay is fun and adventurous the community thou small based at the current for the mostpart are a decent crowd.

Free to Play sure it is... if you want that extra kick like 99.9% of MMO's out there you do so if you dont then you dont.

Mind you the ingame cash shop is by far THE CHEAPEST i have ever come across in any MMO i have played over 30 years of online gaming. Yes Im an old fart (44 this year).

So why play this game simple has balanced and unique character traits graphics are fine maybe outdated but they are in no way a reason not to play. The community is great fun helpful even Eolynn lol. The GM's devs and staff are in no way abusive unless of course you yank their tail.. which is the case with the negative reviews and whatnot noone likes an abusive community

The cash shop items are IN NO WAY a pay to win scenario. They help you but in pvp heck I cant see a thing that would make you op as hell. Also as I stated earlier this game has the cheapest ingame cash shop I have ever come across. Also of course there is no monthly sub which face it really gets annoying .. especially when international monetary rates dive and your dollar almost woth 1.5 less of theirs.....

Oh and the best reason to pay of course.. Is.. because Im there .. joking but damn give it a bash youll either like it love it or meh it nothing ventured nothing gained

Regards , Wombat
Wyatt Mann May 24, 2015 @ 6:51pm 
looks cool, but im to muich into Tera
Roy May 25, 2015 @ 3:37pm 
From what i've heard the developers are very defensive towards the game and remove/respond badly to criticism.
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