A humble request regarding bigoted and racist names in official servers

[Backwards]

I've greatly enjoyed your game despite the ill nature of the vast majority of players on the official servers. Currently I reside in Official Server 9 where there were tribes named ISIS (They changed their name after the players took action and raided them constantly) and as an example a player who aptly name himself "Bob ♥♥♥♥♥♥" (this is his character name not his steam name). I understand you wish to take a hands off approach however certain lines should never be crossed and are far outside the realm of bad taste.

When you play any game online such as WoW, SWTOR, or even a normal web service there are certain rules and regulations about names. Currently there is no whitelist/blacklist in place to stop players from naming their character racist and hate filled names. I understand private servers may not have this problem or care but on the official servers I would hope to see at least a few names which are not allowed.

I am completely fine with people swearing like sailors and trash talking up a storm in official servers. The very nature of competitive play may always be cursed with an ill set mood. However, I would request the official servers at the very least make it impossible to make a character with a name that invokes the spirit of hatred against groups of people.

It is worse enough that people run by me in game yelling out the N-word which is harder to catch but people who blatently name their character racist and hateful names without any reprocussion is outlandish. The way the servers are ran will reflect on your company and your moral values and many of us would be in great debt if you would prevent this from happening in the future at the very least. I would hate to see the official server's riddled with people in tribes like "KKK" and "ISIS" and many other hate groups.

TL;DR - Please add in a name blocking feature into all official servers (That can be configured by the admins) and at least disallow racist and bigoted names off the offical server.

PS: If you have nothing to say but "Just don't read chat" when its very much an integral part of the game spare your opinion.

Sincerely,
Backwards

EDIT: To not avoid the censors, Bob's name is a homophobic slur. I will not circumvent it to type out the name but that should be reason enough.

[GoatTower]

This psuedo neo-facism in the guise of being politically correct and unoffensive is getting out of hand, sure. Try to get the developers from spending time on developing the game to add in a system that will sort out names that "you" find offensive and will probrably not encounter again. If you need to be a productive member of the community, how about writing a guide for new players or helping people with technical issues. The company is not reponsible for the names people choose or do not choose. The individuals themselves are, they should not be forced to change their policy because a small number of the community have to fill their keyboard activist quota for the day.

[Backwards]

Първоначално публикувано от Evilwuun:

There's a lot more to say about this than I want to put into a post that will probably be forgotten, but what I will say is fairly simple: People should not have to ignore or put up with this sort of behavior, and the inclination to behave in such a manner should not be present in such an advanced society. The people in a position to do something about this should, and indeed are obligated to, if only morally.

The argument "Its just the way it is, deal with it." has been used many times throughout history, and many people have gone to great lengths to prove them wrong. Some times at the cost of their own lives.

Well stated, I appreciate you taking the time to add to this conversation. Negative or positive I want more people to state their two cents.

[Kirito]

the people who called themselves isis might have just been fans of archer the spy agency in archer is called isis it might not have been meant to offend anyone

[SimpleSiren]

Post #90 Of butt hurt over words.

[Backwards]

Първоначално публикувано от GoatTower_AKA_Wolfpack:

This psuedo neo-facism in the guise of being politically correct and unoffensive is getting out of hand, sure. Try to get the developers from spending time on developing the game to add in a system that will sort out names that "you" find offensive and will probrably not encounter again. If you need to be a productive member of the community, how about writing a guide for new players or helping people with technical issues. The company is not reponsible for the names people choose or do not choose. The individuals themselves are, they should not be forced to change their policy because a small number of the community have to fill their keyboard activist quota for the day.

So your saying I'm the only one of a few who finds racism and bigotry offensive? I'm sure you're not telling yourself only a few people in this game which broke 1,000,000 copies sold, shares the same opinion..

I am trying to make the community a better place for civilized people. Just because it is not the way you wish does not make it unproductive.

I do appreciate the time you took to accuse me of being a facist however people with names such as those ive listed are not "rare occasions".

[oXYnary]

Първоначално публикувано от Backwards:

There is a difference between blocking blatant racist words and blocking the word banana just because 1 guy was offended. Let's not attempt to act like there isnt a consensus on certain words in the general public.

Which public? This is an international game and the servers aren't region locked. Example, the N word can be used in a positive way in some Urban cultures. Really, you cant speak for the world on this. There is no global consensus.]

Secondly I've played many games like CS:GO and League of Legends. You can get banned for using racist words and names in both. Valve and Riot games decided they would not tolerate it so they moved to act.

CSGO, are you banned from that server or from that game? I have only seen VAC bans for that game that come from cheating, not from language. LOL, goes right back into my point about you comparing a different type of game structure. LOL is controlled absolutely by Riot (a huge company) in every regard. You have an account with that particular company thats global.

[oXYnary]

Първоначално публикувано от GoatTower_AKA_Wolfpack:

This psuedo neo-facism in the guise of being politically correct and unoffensive is getting out of hand, sure..

Can we not use loaded words like this? It adds nothing to the conversation except to draw artificial lines in the sand.

[Backwards]

Първоначално публикувано от oXYnary:

Първоначално публикувано от Backwards:

There is a difference between blocking blatant racist words and blocking the word banana just because 1 guy was offended. Let's not attempt to act like there isnt a consensus on certain words in the general public.

Which public? This is an international game and the servers aren't region locked. Example, the N word can be used in a positive way in some Urban cultures. Really, you cant speak for the world on this. There is no global consensus.]

Secondly I've played many games like CS:GO and League of Legends. You can get banned for using racist words and names in both. Valve and Riot games decided they would not tolerate it so they moved to act.

CSGO, are you banned from that server or from that game? LOL, goes right back into my point about you comparing a different type of game structure. LOL is controlled absolutely by Riot (a huge company) in every regard. You have an account with that particular company thats global.

You have a bannable steamID, your account is your steamID in this game. You are not making any sense at all. The people who own the servers in games like CS:GO, LoL, Rust and many others set the rules. It doesn't matter what their server structure is. If you own a business you have a right to post "no shirt, no shoes, no service." any many other things. A server admin can enforce people on his server to not use racist names.

EDIT: There is a report feature in CS:GO have you ever looked at it? Theres more then just "reporting for cheating" in the options. Same with your steam profile.

[oXYnary]

Първоначално публикувано от Backwards:

You have a bannable steamID, your account is your steamID in this game. You are not making any sense at all.

Tell me where I lost you? Are you saying LOL and this are the same because you have a steam ID and LOL has a ID that are global? Yep. Except, I am explicitly saying for that companies game. NOT for the service offering games. Think of Steam as a just the middle man for third party games. Riot owns and controls everything it offers. Steam does not because its not the same type of business.

The people who own the servers in games like CS:GO, LoL, Rust and many others set the rules. It doesn't matter what their server structure is. If you own a business you have a right to post "no shirt, no shoes, no service." any many other things. A server admin can enforce people on his server to not use racist names.

You do have the right. No one is arguing that.

You are claiming people in CSGO have gotten banned because of chat or names BEYOND just banned from a server. I would like to see this proof is what I'm asking. You have me curious as AFAIK the only way to get banned from the game is to cheat. But hmm, they do have micro transactions in CSGO, so maybe they do this since you do have a global identity in that game that's consistent from server to server. Anyone know?

[SimpleSiren]

LMAO

[GoatTower]

Първоначално публикувано от Backwards:

Първоначално публикувано от GoatTower_AKA_Wolfpack:

This psuedo neo-facism in the guise of being politically correct and unoffensive is getting out of hand, sure. Try to get the developers from spending time on developing the game to add in a system that will sort out names that "you" find offensive and will probrably not encounter again. If you need to be a productive member of the community, how about writing a guide for new players or helping people with technical issues. The company is not reponsible for the names people choose or do not choose. The individuals themselves are, they should not be forced to change their policy because a small number of the community have to fill their keyboard activist quota for the day.

So your saying I'm the only one of a few who finds racism and bigotry offensive? I'm sure you're not telling yourself only a few people in this game which broke 1,000,000 copies sold shares the same opinion that there is something innately wrong with allowing people to name themselves.

I am trying to make the community a better place for civilized people. Just because it is not the way you wish does not make it unproductive.

I do appreciate the time you took to accuse me of being a facist however people with names such as those ive listed are not "rare occasions".

First of all, I did not accuse you directly of being a facist, I think that this movement towards political correctness and being unoffensive at all costs is dangerous. Second of all, is the issue here really that giving people the ability to name themselves as a character, online, in a video game is innately wrong. Because thats just completely crazy. I am not arguing for the right for people to name themselves the N word or homophobic slurs, I am arguing that the people have the right to make that decision themselves, without being limited or obstructed by an increasingly sensitive generation of people.

Also, "I am trying to make the community a bettter place for civilized people", sounds like a speech on the ethnic cleansing of Germany circa 1934. You automatically assume that anyone with an offensive name is uncivilized and not due the same rights as someone who is "civilized".

You can not change the world with a lopsided and misguided approach to culutral marxism. If the existance of these names is really bothersome to the community as a whole, than I propose a vote, in which anyone who has bought the game and played more than 10+ hours can participate in. I am guessing you will find that a majority of the people would just like to play a game, while a unsurprisingly small percentage is concearned with racism and homophobic names in a video game, and an even smaller percentage is comprised of racist uncivilized people.

[Backwards]

Първоначално публикувано от oXYnary:

Първоначално публикувано от Backwards:

You have a bannable steamID, your account is your steamID in this game. You are not making any sense at all.

Tell me where I lost you? Are you saying LOL and this are the same because you have a steam ID and LOL has a ID that are global? Yep. Except, I am explicitly saying for that companies game. NOT for the service offering games. Think of Steam as a just the middle man for third party games. Riot owns and controls everything it offers. Steam does not because its not the same type of business.

The people who own the servers in games like CS:GO, LoL, Rust and many others set the rules. It doesn't matter what their server structure is. If you own a business you have a right to post "no shirt, no shoes, no service." any many other things. A server admin can enforce people on his server to not use racist names.

You do have the right. No one is arguing that.

You are claiming people in CSGO have gotten banned because of chat or names BEYOND just banned from a server. I would like to see this proof is what I'm asking. You have me curious as AFAIK the only way to get banned from the game is to cheat. But hmm, they do have micro transactions in CSGO, so maybe they do this since you do have a global identity in that game that's consistent from server to server. Anyone know?

I'm not asking steam/valve to get involved in disallowing names. Steam account names and character names in the official servers are not the same. Obviously if someone changes their steam account name to something racist they (The devs) most likely cannot do anything about that. I'm asking they control the naming restrictions on the servers they (The developers and employees of the company run) own.

As far as CS:GO I've looked at the reporting feature before in lue of unsavory players before. I don't have any screenshots but frankly its late and I'll get that for you later since the onus of truth is on me.

[oXYnary]

Първоначално публикувано от Backwards:

I'm not asking steam/valve to get involved in disallowing names. Steam account names and character names in the official servers are not the same. Obviously if someone changes their steam account name to something racist they (The devs) most likely cannot do anything about that. I'm asking they control the naming restrictions on the servers they (The developers and employees of the company run) own.

I know you aren't, I am saying the only consistent thing for say LOL and this is there is a global identity. The difference is that identity is the same in across all LOL games. Here, there is no master server that stores all peoples identities, the steam identity is separate from the one in ark. They are stored locally on each server. Whether the devs run it or the guy down the block.

As far as CS:GO I've looked at the reporting feature before in lue of unsavory players before. I don't have any screenshots but frankly its late and I'll get that for you later since the onus of truth is on me.

I could see harassment possibly getting you banned, but I am asking to see bans (not the form to report which BTW steam rarely looks at unless a ton of people report the same thing about the same person) shown to have happened because of a in game name.

[Backwards]

Първоначално публикувано от GoatTower_AKA_Wolfpack:

Първоначално публикувано от Backwards:

So your saying I'm the only one of a few who finds racism and bigotry offensive? I'm sure you're not telling yourself only a few people in this game which broke 1,000,000 copies sold shares the same opinion that there is something innately wrong with allowing people to name themselves.

I am trying to make the community a better place for civilized people. Just because it is not the way you wish does not make it unproductive.

I do appreciate the time you took to accuse me of being a facist however people with names such as those ive listed are not "rare occasions".

First of all, I did not accuse you directly of being a facist, I think that this movement towards political correctness and being unoffensive at all costs is dangerous. Second of all, is the issue here really that giving people the ability to name themselves as a character, online, in a video game is innately wrong. Because thats just completely crazy. I am not arguing for the right for people to name themselves the N word or homophobic slurs, I am arguing that the people have the right to make that decision themselves, without being limited or obstructed by an increasingly sensitive generation of people.

Also, "I am trying to make the community a bettter place for civilized people", sounds like a speech on the ethnic cleansing of Germany circa 1934. You automatically assume that anyone with an offensive name is uncivilized and not due the same rights as someone who is "civilized".

You can not change the world with a lopsided and misguided approach to culutral marxism. If the existance of these names is really bothersome to the community as a whole, than I propose a vote, in which anyone who has bought the game and played more than 10+ hours can participate in. I am guessing you will find that a majority of the people would just like to play a game, while a unsurprisingly small percentage is concearned with racism and homophobic names in a video game, and an even smaller percentage is comprised of racist uncivilized people.

What sounds like a speech on ethnic clensing is only that, you drew your own conclusion. Try getting away with yelling racial and bigoted obsenaties in a walmart and see how long it takes for a security guard to drag you out. Calling me a facist indirectly doesn't make a difference regardless and misguided my request is not.

I'm glad you're not argueing for racist names as most obvious moral individuals wouldn't however argueing against it isn't helping the cause.

Regardless of how misguided your logic may be at comparing my post to a nazi referendum I do appreciate there at least being a dialog on the subject instead of the expected "Lulz ur a carebeer" responses.

[[FuFo] Mortucus]

whats in a word other then what someone reads into it

your free to be offended and move on or ignore them

in other word grow up and move the hell on its a game who give a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ what they call them selves

used to play with a bloke called NEGROMANCER
people called him a racist problem was he was BLACK

its a game people are starving and dying all around the world and your here raising the flag in a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game

go do something productive that will make a diffrence rather then crap on about polotical correctness in a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ vidio game