ARK: Survival Evolved

ARK: Survival Evolved

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Shebang! Sep 9, 2017 @ 12:13pm
Linux, AMDGPU+Mesa, massive graphical glitches totally unplayable
Hey guys,

Question here, anyone have this game going on AMDGPU (NOT the -Pro drivers) with Mesa? I'm running latest stable mesa, so I've tested with 17.1 and 17.2. I'm running Archlinux at the moment, but I had this exact same issue with Ubuntu. I'm getting massive graphical glitches, there are black blocks everywhere and the screen flashes red constantly. I've tested various launch options (MESA_GLSL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=400, and 330, and MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=4.0) and none of it changes anything. Even the text in the main menu looks slightly garbled with the bottom of the font echoing slightly along the top.

Ark is the only game exhibiting these problems.
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Tech Enthusiast Sep 9, 2017 @ 12:19pm 
I know you don't want to hear it, but running a setup that is propably as high as 0,05% of the player base (if that) i see very little chance to get a fix.

That being said: I tried your setup a few months ago (ubuntu) and had issues in way more then just ark. None of those black blocks tho.

edit: To be slighly more accurate (and helpful), all games running the same engine had issues. So about 30-40% of all games, since Arks engine is not exactly a rare sight.
Last edited by Tech Enthusiast; Sep 9, 2017 @ 12:21pm
Shebang! Sep 9, 2017 @ 12:23pm 
Originally posted by Rattenmann:
I know you don't want to hear it, but running a setup that is propably as high as 0,05% of the player base (if that) i see very little chance to get a fix.

That being said: I tried your setup a few months ago (ubuntu) and had issues in way more then just ark. None of those black blocks tho.

Well, I'm well aware of the statistics here. Frankly, from what I've seen Linux doesn't get fixes AT ALL regardless so.. thats why I'm asking the community in the hopes that someone might have had a similiar issue and maybe worked around it. I mean, this setup did work not so long ago.

I'm pretty sure I wasted by money on Ark though ;( I can to a certain extent tolorate the game balance issues, the hilarious glitching, and many issues the plague the game but I at least want the damn thing to run.
Tech Enthusiast Sep 9, 2017 @ 12:31pm 
The fix is simple. Install windows.
There is very few reasons to use Linux nowadays and seriously most people that DO use it, do it for the wrong reasons, outdated reasons or flat out made up reasons.

That is how i would fix the issue on my end, if said PC was actually mine. It was a University PC at the time,.. and god knows the whole university is trying to get windows installed, just those damn IT guys in charge keep the system hostage.
Basically 3 guys forcing Linux on well over 50.000 Students and teachers.

From the 4 years i had to use Linux in university now i did not find a single reason id want to use it at home as well. Even less so since windows flat out implemented all Linux console commands for thise insisting on writing instead of clicking a button.
Shebang! Sep 9, 2017 @ 12:43pm 
Originally posted by Rattenmann:
The fix is simple. Install windows.
There is very few reasons to use Linux nowadays and seriously most people that DO use it, do it for the wrong reasons, outdated reasons or flat out made up reasons.

Are you kidding me man? You are seriously giving me the "Windows is fine lol" speech? You clearly haven't the faintest idea what you are talking about, so just stop. I don't want to hear it, if you can't help with my issue then please butt out and go somewhere else.
Tech Enthusiast Sep 9, 2017 @ 12:50pm 
Originally posted by SalsaDoom:
Originally posted by Rattenmann:
The fix is simple. Install windows.
There is very few reasons to use Linux nowadays and seriously most people that DO use it, do it for the wrong reasons, outdated reasons or flat out made up reasons.

Are you kidding me man? You are seriously giving me the "Windows is fine lol" speech? You clearly haven't the faintest idea what you are talking about, so just stop. I don't want to hear it, if you can't help with my issue then please butt out and go somewhere else.

Oh, i know how you feel. Every Linux user gets the same windows speech every time they want to find a fix for their issues.

So no. No "Windows is fine" speech from me even tho i do believe that, yes.
Just a "Well, you picked the system with problems, so you have to live with the consequences".

Every choice has consequences.
Picking Linux AND not even using the only supported linux distro is asking for trouble, i am sure you are well aware of that.

To get a fix, you will have to visit the unreal forums tho. Not the Ark forums.
That is the correct place to get a possible fix, if they care enough about anything but stock ubuntu (if that).
Shebang! Sep 9, 2017 @ 12:53pm 
Originally posted by Rattenmann:
Originally posted by SalsaDoom:

Are you kidding me man? You are seriously giving me the "Windows is fine lol" speech? You clearly haven't the faintest idea what you are talking about, so just stop. I don't want to hear it, if you can't help with my issue then please butt out and go somewhere else.

Oh, i know how you feel. Every Linux user gets the same windows speech every time they want to find a fix for their issues.

So no. No "Windows is fine" speech from me even tho i do believe that, yes.
Just a "Well, you picked the system with problems, so you have to live with the consequences".

Every choice has consequences.
Picking Linux AND not even using the only supported linux distro is asking for trouble, i am sure you are well aware of that.

To get a fix, you will have to visit the unreal forums tho. Not the Ark forums.
That is the correct place to get a possible fix, if they care enough about anything but stock ubuntu (if that).

Please stop wasting my time. You aren't contributing anything and you don't know anything about Windows or Linux, this is pretty obvious to me. I'm much more aware than you are of the "consequences" WHICH IS WHY I'M ASKING the community, for F sakes.

Just go away you damn troll, no one wants to hear your crap.
Tech Enthusiast Sep 9, 2017 @ 12:55pm 
Originally posted by SalsaDoom:
Originally posted by Rattenmann:

Oh, i know how you feel. Every Linux user gets the same windows speech every time they want to find a fix for their issues.

So no. No "Windows is fine" speech from me even tho i do believe that, yes.
Just a "Well, you picked the system with problems, so you have to live with the consequences".

Every choice has consequences.
Picking Linux AND not even using the only supported linux distro is asking for trouble, i am sure you are well aware of that.

To get a fix, you will have to visit the unreal forums tho. Not the Ark forums.
That is the correct place to get a possible fix, if they care enough about anything but stock ubuntu (if that).

Please stop wasting my time. You aren't contributing anything and you don't know anything about Windows or Linux, this is pretty obvious to me. I'm much more aware than you are of the "consequences" WHICH IS WHY I'M ASKING the community, for F sakes.

Just go away you damn troll, no one wants to hear your crap.

This damn troll is better at google then you tho. Two topics about your issue on the Unreal Forums. Now stop wasting my time and follow that hint. You may find a fix over there.
Shebang! Sep 9, 2017 @ 1:03pm 
Originally posted by Rattenmann:
Originally posted by SalsaDoom:

Please stop wasting my time. You aren't contributing anything and you don't know anything about Windows or Linux, this is pretty obvious to me. I'm much more aware than you are of the "consequences" WHICH IS WHY I'M ASKING the community, for F sakes.

Just go away you damn troll, no one wants to hear your crap.

This damn troll is better at google then you tho. Two topics about your issue on the Unreal Forums. Now stop wasting my time and follow that hint. You may find a fix over there.

Thanks for the hint, maybe next time skip the "lulz just use windows haha" routine. We would of had a pleasant discussion if not for your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ there, I cannot express how sick and tired of that constant ♥♥♥♥ from the more obnoxious members of the windows community I am. My reasons for using Linux aren't "wrong" or "outdated" and this is more true now than it ever has been. If Linux didn't work out for you that's too bad, but outside of this particular trainwreck of a game it has worked out for me since 1994.

But that said, yes, honestly thank you for the suggestion and hint. I'm sure I'll find it now.
[Linux] Hapa Sep 9, 2017 @ 2:37pm 
Hi, I don't know if you are aware, but there is a Linux Gaming Group on Telegram with over 700+ members https://t.me/linuxgaming - Maybe you can find some help there, for this and other issues.
Shebang! Sep 9, 2017 @ 2:44pm 
Originally posted by Hapa:
Hi, I don't know if you are aware, but there is a Linux Gaming Group on Telegram with over 700+ members https://t.me/linuxgaming - Maybe you can find some help there, for this and other issues.

Sounds interesting, thanks for the heads up!
Shebang! Sep 12, 2017 @ 7:27am 
Haven't found a solution to this one yet. I realize AMDGPU linux users are a minority, but no one else?
JohnnySyn Sep 16, 2017 @ 2:15pm 
I am in the same boat, & have not found a fix as of yet. : (

Running: Arch Linux 64bit
Kernel: 4.12.13
Graphic Driver: AMDGPU
Mesa: 17.2

As of today, running the latest patch of Ark:

https://imgur.com/a/LxnLv

The strokes increase in thickness when you drop the resolution scale to 0, and clear geometry can be seen. I haven't been playing since these graphical issues have become so severe, some 3 - 4 patches ago. It is a shame, as it is one of my favourite games in my collection.

I would love to continue to support, purchasing Aberration, & the seasonal pass, but if there is no longer any proper linux support on their end...
Shebang! Sep 16, 2017 @ 5:42pm 
Originally posted by krytic:
I am in the same boat, & have not found a fix as of yet. : (

Running: Arch Linux 64bit
Kernel: 4.12.13
Graphic Driver: AMDGPU
Mesa: 17.2

As of today, running the latest patch of Ark:

https://imgur.com/a/LxnLv

The strokes increase in thickness when you drop the resolution scale to 0, and clear geometry can be seen. I haven't been playing since these graphical issues have become so severe, some 3 - 4 patches ago. It is a shame, as it is one of my favourite games in my collection.

I would love to continue to support, purchasing Aberration, & the seasonal pass, but if there is no longer any proper linux support on their end...

Yup, exactly the same issue. I can't drop any more money into a broken product either. If its a problem with Mesa, the devs should report it to them, if its a problem with Ark, they should fix it.
I did a fair bit of debugging with these issues.

For the black/red/cyan coloured "strokes", this seems to be a mesa/amdgpu/radeonsi bug -- I couldn't reproduce it on Intel hardware or LLVMpipe. I'd like to stress the "seems to be" bit, I have not witnessed this on any other title.

I did stumble upon a workaround - if you disable HyperZ (via R600_DEBUG=nohyperz) this issue goes away, at the cost of reduced performance (still playable in my case). This has worked on two rather different amdgpu-backed cards. I haven't tested this with the radeon kernel driver yet, however.

I've raised a bug report here, https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102955

There is one other graphical issue that can be fixed via drirc -- if you open up the inventory, you'll notice there's a thin red outline to the player model. This seems to disappear with the
'glsl_correct_derivatives_after_discard' debugging option enabled. (driconf calls this option "Implicit and explicit derivatives after a discard behave as if the discard didn't happen")
alitfaier Sep 27, 2017 @ 2:29pm 
Originally posted by Rattenmann:
I know you don't want to hear it, but running a setup that is propably as high as 0,05% of the player base (if that) i see very little chance to get a fix.

That being said: I tried your setup a few months ago (ubuntu) and had issues in way more then just ark. None of those black blocks tho.

edit: To be slighly more accurate (and helpful), all games running the same engine had issues. So about 30-40% of all games, since Arks engine is not exactly a rare sight.
I'm sorry but the numbers of people playing on linux are low, is because the gaming clients are not well-optimized, if they run games, it would be very wary of the number of linux players.
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Date Posted: Sep 9, 2017 @ 12:13pm
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