Sword Coast Legends

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Rune Jun 12 @ 9:47pm
Sent a PM to [DE]Megan
Title is "Need help, not sure if you are the right person but"

As the cryptic subject states, I am not sure if you are the right person to bring this too, but I hope you can at least point me in the right direction.


On the steam forums for Sword Coast Legends, a thread was posted by whoever at DE runs communicty support for that game, SCL, with the following text;


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Servers Closing for Sword Coast Legends

Hello Adventurers,

As of 10 a.m. ET, July 25, our multiplayer servers for the game will be taken offline and all stored player data will be deleted. If you own the game in your Steam library, you will still have access to any offline content including the single player campaign.

Thank you for playing and supporting Sword Coast Legends.

Last edited by [NS]COMMUNITY; May 25 @ 2:19pm

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Of course, [NS]Community is non-existent, N-Space, the developers of Sword Coast Legends famously imploded only a few short months after SCL launched. So it has to have been posted by someone at DE.


Moreover, this is in direct contrast to the last sale on the game, in which it was stated ;

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Gather your party for epic adventures before Sword Coast Legends disappears forever at the end of December, 2017!

Purchase Sword Coast Legends now at 67% off and receive the Rage of Demons DLC for free. Our publishing contracting is ending, but although Sword Coast Legends will no longer be available to purchase after December, its multiplayer servers will remain live indefinitely.
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And this information, despite being edited later to instead read, "its multiplayer servers will remain live for an indefinite, unspecified, amount of time." was proven as fact by the internet wayback machine.

relevent link; https://web.archive.org/web/20171225233626/https://steamcommunity.com/games/325600/announcements/detail/1480986325840432235

Now, I purchased the game in early access and supported it and enjoy the game, but i have strong concerns about this type of thing. I paid for a multiplayer game that would have server up indefinitely as stated by not only N-space devs, but by the Digital Extremes publishers who took over for them when N-space was no more, and even used this fact as a way to get more sales out of the title the last time it was placed on sale.

Moreover, as an online game, I was under the impression that all the characters I made were stored on the old N-space servers somewhere, in which case the game literally will no longer work at all without it's online component. There are no more N-space Sword Coast Legends forums or website, or even a way for new players to make Sword Coast Legends accounts, and nobody has addressed those problems in the steam forums.

Again, apologies if this isn't reaching the correct person, but if you can find out who I need to get this message too in time, I'd really appreciate it. I sent this as a PM rather than a post to avoid an Off-topic stink in the Warframe forums, but...

I don't know where to take these concerns, and time is pressing.

Thank you for your time.
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Rune Jun 12 @ 9:47pm 
I don't hold out a lot of hope, but if I don't get some sort of reply in a few days, I'll post a thread with this same info on the Warframe forums, and try to get some peole talking about it somewhere.

I mean, even the hated Electronic Arts has left servers up for communicationg player data to keep DLC working in Kingdom's of Amalur: Reckoning.

How on Earth can EA be treating gamers better than DE?
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Rune Jun 12 @ 10:11pm 
Minor update, if anyone is interested besides me.

Recieved an auto-reply from Megan's inbox, and a direction to sent the same message to [DE]Community and hopefully someone somewhere will get on this.

At least ♥♥♥♥ing communicate with us. also address the concerns of new owners of the game who couldn't make an N-space account to actually play the damn game they purchased, and let us know how our characters will fare, etc.
They have your money, and outside of someone knowing a decent lawyer with some free time, I highly doubt this will end anyway other than a lot of players with a bad taste in their mouths. I for one will never buy a game that has anything to do with DE, because I now know how they treat their customer base. Live and learn eh?
Rune Jun 13 @ 4:24am 
Yeah, I didn't want to bring it up here, but one of the N-space devs I corresponded with back when N-spaces' dissolusion was recent, told me that DE was responcible in part because as publisher they could have helped them with more money to keep the studio afloat longer,.

Long enough to fix all the bugs and problems, port the console versions controller support back to the PC version as well as add more stuff for the planned free content packs for DM mode and essentially support the game and develope more stuff.

Apparently DE wrote SCL off and decided it wasn't worth throwing good money after bad, as it were, which is why it seemed like such a surprise when N-space closed.. It actually was a surprise to the remaining N-space devs.

It's especially confounding since DE has such a great track record for fair marketing schemes, good relations with it's players and so on. A great reputation I'd say they earned by these years of forging Warframe into somethng amazing and profitable without making a player feel like they have to sink hundreds or even more than tes of dollars into unless they want to, not HAVE to.

But they had a hand in letting N-space go under when they could have saved some of their company, if not all of it's devs [big round of layoffs happened a couple months after SCL tanked so hard, I guess in January] and now they are treating the people who supported SCL like.. well, like this.
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Rune Jun 13 @ 5:25am 
I need people who own SCL and also play or have played Warframe and have warframe accounts to go to this thread and weigh in already.

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/966670-sword-coast-legends-server-shutdown-and-unfairly/

Only one person has bothered to respond to me, and he's treating me like a tinfoil hat wearing kook with zero credibility.

If you care at all about this server shutdown after we were specifically told they would be up indefinately go to the thread and speak up, please!
Rune Jun 28 @ 7:22am 
Well, a grassroot gamer uprising certainly hasn't happened here, and I imagine there's nothing we can do about this now, but [DE]Drew finally responded to my thread and Private Message linking him to that thread at the link above.

If anyone out there still cares to weigh in before the final curtain bows on the multiplayer aspects of it, or maybe wants to see VAC removed from it, make it so you can play the solo campain without having to run Steam in Offline mode, etc., I recommend you visit the link and start in sooner rather than later.. we only have 28 ish days left.
Problem is, game isn't good enough to warrent any kind of grassroot gamer uprising. I played though it once. I tried again once the free DLC came out, but I just couldn't do it again. I was bored out of my mind.

The game had some good qualities, but in the end, the story was bland, and game play was dull, so players stopped carring.
Rune Jul 4 @ 5:57pm 
Speak for yourself. Not for everyone under the guise of some otherworldly knowledge.

It may not have garnered a lot of attention, or technically a lot of the wrong kind at launch but the game was good. Amazing? perhaps not, but solid.

Good doesn't mean great, but it doesn't mean bad either. this game came out close to average and I feel it's still a shame to see it go completely like this.
I said the game was not good enough to warrent some kind of grass roots player uprising to get it reinstated or altered or updated or anything else you might have hopped it would be.

And my statment has nothing to do with "otherworldy knowledge". I has to do with cold hard facts. The amount of negitive reviews and a the negitive posts on Steam alone would atest to that.

If you were to spend any amount of time on the offical forums (if you can, not sure they are still up) you would see the very same thing.

You might have enjoyed it. I'm not taking anything away from your personal experiance, so no need to get all defensive.

The game was bland and below average. The spell and ability mechanics were not well though out. Does that mean you can't have some fun with it? Not at all. But it does mean that people won't care if it dies.

People don't put out the amount of effort that would be required to keep something like this afloat for "meh, not bad, almost average".
Servers going offline will affect 2 things:

1) You can't download user generated content.
2) You can't coop.

Everything else is FUD. The game will automagically go into offline mode if it can't contact the servers (I have first-hand experience from when my Internet went out for a short time). All player and character data is stored client side. The servers don't do anything besides matchmaking.

What's criminal is that N-Space didn't just use Steamworks for matchmaking, but instead rolled their own BS with a BS login that scares people away.
Originally posted by Damn_Monkey:
Problem is, game isn't good enough to warrent any kind of grassroot gamer uprising. I played though it once. I tried again once the free DLC came out, but I just couldn't do it again. I was bored out of my mind.

The game had some good qualities, but in the end, the story was bland, and game play was dull, so players stopped carring.


That's the game's biggest flaw is its absolute ZERO replay value. Once you play through the game the first time, that's it. There's nothing else to see, because the story is exactly identical no matter what race, class, gender or religion you pick for your character.

Even the dialogue is the same. Try playing through the main story as a Tiefling or a Drow and see how quickly it breaks the immersion with the NPC's in your party!

The only thing that changes is that you get to pick between 2 possibile endings, and even then, you can just reload a previous save if you really want to see the other option.


Multiplayer is a sick joke in this game, as its campaign creator mode doesn't hold even a flickering candle to any other D&D games with a custom campaign desiner. It's also infuriating that you can only use resources (monsters, equipment and such) that you have already encountered by playing the game. Yeah, I'm not even joking, you have to actually find anything that you want to use in regular game play before you can use it in the campaign creator!


The only reason I use multiplayer is for Jedi's Power Leveling map, where I can boost my characters to max level in about 20 to 30 minutes. Beyond that, nobody else seems to be playing it at all.


Last edited by GrandMajora; Jul 12 @ 8:11am
MehZhure Jul 17 @ 6:40pm 
Originally posted by Rune:
Well, a grassroot gamer uprising certainly hasn't happened here, and I imagine there's nothing we can do about this now, but [DE]Drew finally responded to my thread and Private Message linking him to that thread at the link above.

If anyone out there still cares to weigh in before the final curtain bows on the multiplayer aspects of it, or maybe wants to see VAC removed from it, make it so you can play the solo campain without having to run Steam in Offline mode, etc., I recommend you visit the link and start in sooner rather than later.. we only have 28 ish days left.

Personally, i think the reason nobody seems to care is Divinity Original Sin 2 is out. Since the problems were never addressed with SCL, there was an opening for DOS2 to step in and dominate....which is exactly what happened. Clearly there was a massive call for a really good RPG like this. Personally speaking, SCL is one of my favorite RPGs. I am hoping some studio acquires the right to it, and finishes it out properly. It merely needs to be debugged and have the modding system fully built out. Granted, that is a big task...but it would result in an amazing game (better than DOS2 in my opinion).
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