no transformation for other race :(

[Demilion]

why No Great Nameks, Transformation for Majin to kid or something & other form for Frieza/ as bulk frieza?

[Chronoreaper]

in a form of transformation that works as a buff(IE kaioken and SS1) could differ you could have a hidden potential for humans gained from a new namekian PQ or one involving the Kai's namely elder kai, freizas race i would say give them a form 5 there only true transformation(see coolors movie and the new revival of F frieza) but problem is thats actually a base form for players to choose from but you can give them 100% full power as you see with frieza in the series he doesnt unleash his full power so its a easy skill to add for friezas clansmen, for buus and namekians i cant see a proper transformation sadly you could use the elder guru potiential for namekians for buu's you cant really do pure form as you would in the online as this would affect your bodys design and animations nothing of which is ingame else frieza form 3 would be ingame and then theres the females not looking anything close to kid buu and the fat the males are fat buu's be too hard to change them to kid buu would cause alot of hit box problems

[Ralen]

Nguyên văn bởi TheSmartestIdiot:

Super Namek is a transformation, it basicly just makes namekians giants, Majins could transform into there pure form, basicly kid buu.

If you are referring to King Piccolo from Dragon Ball, that was a one time thing if I recall correctly... I wouldn't even say "growing" is a "transformation" as it may as well be ozaru but more silly. No, Kid Buu is not a transformation as that's his original form.

Nguyên văn bởi Shahadem:

A permanent transformation is still a transformation. But a lot of the races don't have transformations, they have fusions.

While this is true, the problem is these transformations, or more specifically fusions, are not practical for the game. SSJ is entirely dependent on the user and the user alone. Buu needs others to absorb. Namekians need to fuse with other Namekians. Frieza hiding his power would contradict the idea of transformatinos in this game.

The only way I explained to a friend that Frieza transformations could work in DBXV is if everybody started in form one and once you hit a certain level, you would unlock the next form. Thus, everybody would eventually be running around in Frieza's final form, just different colors.

In my opinion, DIMPS did a decent job. I don't believe every race "needs" transformations. There can be other perks added to make them more enticing. Frieza race and Namekians are already OP in PvP as it is. Having made up transformations would be game breaking.

[AzureTheGamerKobold]

Nguyên văn bởi Finn the Human:

well the lack of buu transformations are straight up lore based. the others, idk. and idc honestly. saiyans are kinda garbage without ssj. >_>

*coughs* DBO says other wise, and was where the majin debuted... they could attain a " pure form " which resembled Kid Buu, even got a few of his attacks... lore supports majin transforming.

[Ralen]

Nguyên văn bởi LordLokai:

*coughs* DBO says other wise, and was where the majin debuted... they could attain a " pure form " which resembled Kid Buu, even got a few of his attacks... lore supports majin transforming.

DBO isn't canon and it was shut down shortly after release. Yes, XV is borrowing heavily from DBO, including the nonsense of the Majin race (that's not even what majin means), but it has no rational basis when compared to the actual manga/anime.

[Chronoreaper]

yea i wouldn't go using DBO as a basis to compare as well since it was made a MMO as DBX was just made as a heavily multiplayer game with the main use of CaC

[kyse2]

kaioken dont suck it is really good if u got high stam u can dodge for free u just dont have the right build for it

[Gackt the Immortal]

in a way, freeza's armors are kinds of transformations. some of the pieces are obviously armor, but some seem to change bone structure and such. given that they change your stats as well, it kind of aids to the idea of a transformation.

[Chronoreaper]

Nguyên văn bởi Winter Severity Index:

in a way, freeza's armors are kinds of transformations. some of the pieces are obviously armor, but some seem to change bone structure and such. given that they change your stats as well, it kind of aids to the idea of a transformation.

good point there as they are basically organic to there species but as i mentioned above just them using the 100% could also add a 75% power release for there race and good to go could make them slower in movement or recharging there stamina(rise to action) and ki( the charge skills) easy to do and you see frieza do it alot himself

[AzureTheGamerKobold]

Nguyên văn bởi Pax Augusta:

Nguyên văn bởi LordLokai:

*coughs* DBO says other wise, and was where the majin debuted... they could attain a " pure form " which resembled Kid Buu, even got a few of his attacks... lore supports majin transforming.

DBO isn't canon and it was shut down shortly after release. Yes, XV is borrowing heavily from DBO, including the nonsense of the Majin race (that's not even what majin means), but it has no rational basis when compared to the actual manga/anime.

Actually everything in DBO was written by Akira Toriyama and last time i looked he considers it Canon, he was on there team doing all the lore, quests and such Pure Forms have a big basis of validity. Were several quests concerning the dangers of the pure form, and what not you might not consider it canon but i'm pretty sure the creator does... and since Xenoverse is taking heavily from DBO i can only assume that we will see pure form in some fashion at some point in time or some variation there of.

Thing is if you remove the form from majin you NEED something to balance everything out. Right Now sayians are ONLY race have a transformation, and lets not kid ourselves infinite ki aside its a straight up buff to damage and damage reduction, its clear advantage that other races do not have. Sayians already have HIGHEST damage in game, which was suppose to be offset by there low damage reduction, but this is all pretty much negated by SSJ, SSV not as much since its only ki attacks that get reduced.

Is about balance, either Kaioken needs a total overhaul to make it the go to ability (in DBO it was every bit as strong as SSJ in this game, its clearly sub-par in comparison to SSJ. While MIGHT give one specific build a nice advantage everyone else is kind of left in the dark. We need a checks and balances, either SSJ needs nerfed or other races need something to even the playing field, and YES i know SSJ can be beaten that isn't the point! you do not give one race an advantage over another, because guess what? then every single person is forced to play that race to compete. Right now that is kind of the case... not that SSJ is an equalizer, its a clear cut buff that no other race can match. If a player isn't spamming ultra's and plays the game right, SSJ will give him the damage he needs to WIN and the DR he needs to keep himself alive.

[CaptainLagbeard]

The only thing they really could give us that would allow everyone to get a transformation is Fusion... But how would Fusion work with the created characters...

[Chronoreaper]

Nguyên văn bởi CaptainLagbeard:

The only thing they really could give us that would allow everyone to get a transformation is Fusion... But how would Fusion work with the created characters...

whoever is the main instergator from preplanning would be who is in total control but would be a extremely hard thing to make for the developers as you need to design it all and then you got the difficulty of players doing it in a match probably be hard to use like the body change ultimate and ontop of that holding there own on defusing after the time limit is up like x ammount of damage done to you how would it be broken up

[AzureTheGamerKobold]

Nguyên văn bởi Chronoreaper:

Nguyên văn bởi CaptainLagbeard:

The only thing they really could give us that would allow everyone to get a transformation is Fusion... But how would Fusion work with the created characters...

whoever is the main instergator from preplanning would be who is in total control but would be a extremely hard thing to make for the developers as you need to design it all and then you got the difficulty of players doing it in a match probably be hard to use like the body change ultimate and ontop of that holding there own on defusing after the time limit is up like x ammount of damage done to you how would it be broken up

i always thought easiest way to do fusion is throgh the patora earings, where by you choose two of your created characters and they fuse together, sending you to the character creator where you decide base body, and choose between a few options involving looks, allowing you to custumize your new fused character. They get a slight boost in stats based on stats of two characters, and are reduced to level 1. By the time they get back to max level they are a bit stronger then either of older characters, but you permanently lose the two characters you fused.

[Chronoreaper]

Nguyên văn bởi LordLokai:

Nguyên văn bởi Chronoreaper:

whoever is the main instergator from preplanning would be who is in total control but would be a extremely hard thing to make for the developers as you need to design it all and then you got the difficulty of players doing it in a match probably be hard to use like the body change ultimate and ontop of that holding there own on defusing after the time limit is up like x ammount of damage done to you how would it be broken up

i always thought easiest way to do fusion is throgh the patora earings, where by you choose two of your created characters and they fuse together, sending you to the character creator where you decide base body, and choose between a few options involving looks, allowing you to custumize your new fused character. They get a slight boost in stats based on stats of two characters, and are reduced to level 1. By the time they get back to max level they are a bit stronger then either of older characters, but you permanently lose the two characters you fused.

thats plan B i would assume if fusion ever existed problem being then fusion is suppose to be a super strong mixture such as when two ss1 saiyans managed a SS3 form fusion(gotenks) then you got ones like vegito and super vegito which seem to be permanent unless forced apart ie shenron or buu's digestive system and i've read they cannot use transformations unless they fused in there forms already though i would think the fusion dance would show up sooner as its harder to pull off and put quite a few hard earnings in place to even get to it

[Dzaka]

Nguyên văn bởi Shahadem:

Nguyên văn bởi Finn the Human:

why do people insist that kaioken sucks? it's really damn good, especially if you're a melee build.

The problem is that you have to stat specifically for it. If you don't it is garbage. And since you can't change your stats (good luck getting all 7 dragon balls), if you don't start out planning to use it, it simply doesn't do much for you.

:coughs: the parallel quest where you fight the genyu force. in the begining just restart till you get someone to spawn in that area.. kick thier ass. and if you get a key item from them.. yaaay dragon ball. if not.. restart and try again. i get a full set in about 20 minutes

[Alex]

Why frieza race can't utilize Frieza's four forms, or Cooler's 5th form is beyond me...
(But also, why they can't be female ALSO baffles me.)