Feature suggestions / request

[Xerberus86]

is it still possible to add a random map generator and more spells? i saw the spell tree in one of the pictures and it had like 9 spells in it :/.

will still keep my one it and join you on next thursday :).

[Dreamsurfer]

I vote no to that. The whole idea is to have a deep well thought out World like Birthright.

[Lordzimoa]

Keep in mind that the spell trees are different or unique for each realm, there are more than 100+ unique spells in the game.

But this is why we do Early Access, if a lot of people think we need even more, well we can do that.... ;-)

[jnpoint]

On my wishlist too.

Some suggestions:
Could there be flanking in battles?
Economy: Could there be some buildings to build instead of 'only' paying money to upgrade a province? As far as I can see, economy is only upgrading your province, and maybe some races can build a fortification - isn't that right?

[Lordzimoa]

From the 9th on there will be regular updates coming with improvements, fixes, new features, changes, etc... based on all the feedback we get.

We will continuously analyze all ideas, comments and feedback intern and decide in consensus what we think might work, or even sometimes just add and test and see how something is received.

We are open to all options and we are here to listen and absorb your ideas and feedback.

Some bigger features we already have on our intern wishlists may take a bit more time to implement, but this was the whole idea behind the EA program, it perfectly fits with this project.

Our hopes and expectations are that in the next year or more this game will grow and improve again tremendously... the more souls we can get involved early into this community process the better.

We have committed ourselves on working and updating the game for at least a year onward.

We hope with your and the soon community feedback to lift the game up further.

If you want to continue to support us, shout it off the rooftops, the more exposure we get the better, and best advertising is mouth to mouth after the 9th... the game is already pretty decent and stable, but our aim and goal is to make it fantastic, unique and special.


Cheers,

Tim aka LZ

[Xerberus86]

Originally posted by Dreamsurfer:

I vote no to that. The whole idea is to have a deep well thought out World like Birthright.

random map generator adds to the replayability, otherwise its less of a fantasy 4x / grand s trategy game and more of a war / battle scenario game. why restrict a game if you can improve on its potential? why "make it like x old game" if you can improve on the formula? why make it like this birthright? there is already a game, they can take inspiration of and improve on the mechanics. don't be stuck in the past and remember that there are more people out there that like improvements to a game / game mechanics!

[Jekky]

A random map would be very difficult to do with the hand-drawm map style which we have. Even if it were practical do it, my personal feeling is that it would detract from the world which has been carefully built.

That being said, as has been pointed out above, this is a community driven prject now, so if enough people really do want this, it's something we could look at adding as an optional game mode perhaps.

People do need to bear in mind though that a randomy generated map will never live up the quality of a hand-crafted one, a lot of the little details would be lost in the process - of course you may feel that the added replayability from such an option would outweight any losses in quality.

Either way, let us know what you think, the more opinions we hear on these subjects, the better.

[jnpoint]

I'm looking forward to the 9'th. I would also like random maps as an extra option although I might loose some quality map drawings

[Xerberus86]

Originally posted by Jekky:

A random map would be very difficult to do with the hand-drawm map style which we have. Even if it were practical do it, my personal feeling is that it would detract from the world which has been carefully built.

That being said, as has been pointed out above, this is a community driven prject now, so if enough people really do want this, it's something we could look at adding as an optional game mode perhaps.

People do need to bear in mind though that a randomy generated map will never live up the quality of a hand-crafted one, a lot of the little details would be lost in the process - of course you may feel that the added replayability from such an option would outweight any losses in quality.

Either way, let us know what you think, the more opinions we hear on these subjects, the better.

dominion 3 / 4 also have handdrawn map look and random map generator. the map doesn't already looks a quite edgy at times and and consists mainly of some texture variations random map generator won't make a huge difference in the look in my opinion.

[Dreamsurfer]

Originally posted by Xerberus86:

Originally posted by Dreamsurfer:

I vote no to that. The whole idea is to have a deep well thought out World like Birthright.

random map generator adds to the replayability, otherwise its less of a fantasy 4x / grand s trategy game and more of a war / battle scenario game. why restrict a game if you can improve on its potential? why "make it like x old game" if you can improve on the formula? why make it like this birthright? there is already a game, they can take inspiration of and improve on the mechanics. don't be stuck in the past and remember that there are more people out there that like improvements to a game / game mechanics!

How many times have people played RiSK? Would you trade Middle Earth for some random crap world? No thanks.

There is a reason why Forgotten Realms etc are so popular, because they are well thought out Worlds with lots of lore and history. You cannot randomize such things.

[Dreamsurfer]

Originally posted by Jekky:

A random map would be very difficult to do with the hand-drawm map style which we have. Even if it were practical do it, my personal feeling is that it would detract from the world which has been carefully built.

That being said, as has been pointed out above, this is a community driven prject now, so if enough people really do want this, it's something we could look at adding as an optional game mode perhaps.

People do need to bear in mind though that a randomy generated map will never live up the quality of a hand-crafted one, a lot of the little details would be lost in the process - of course you may feel that the added replayability from such an option would outweight any losses in quality.

Either way, let us know what you think, the more opinions we hear on these subjects, the better.

Don't worry. You are on the right track. I prefer that you flesh out the World and expand to the west/north in DLC/Expansions. I will take an indepht world ala Forgotten Realms/Middle Earth any day over some random generic stuff.

If you have X hours to spend then maybe you should use them to do the game you envisioned and leave the "design by comitté" concept behind. There are enough generic boring random maps around. Add more history, lore and quests instead.

Also if you are doing the Birthright thing, go for a FPS mode as well ;).

[maulet]

I would add the possibility of a random map, knowing that this map doesn't have the same strategic features than the original one. But I think is an interesting option.

[dhillustrator]

I have to agree with Dreamsurfer on this. I am all for random maps in a 4x game, where exploration and fog of war make everthing new, but in this type of game the lore and established game world are its bread and butter. The map with its established nations, divided into regions gives character to the game world. Each factions place on the map, is as much a part of the faction as its unit list. The map is more than just hand drawn it is hand crafted to represent each nation.

[jnpoint]

I think it's a fruitfull debate. The devs know best and they say that there are some new features. So after the 9'th I'll be back with my opinion again.

[Xerberus86]

Originally posted by Dreamsurfer:

Originally posted by Xerberus86:

random map generator adds to the replayability, otherwise its less of a fantasy 4x / grand s trategy game and more of a war / battle scenario game. why restrict a game if you can improve on its potential? why "make it like x old game" if you can improve on the formula? why make it like this birthright? there is already a game, they can take inspiration of and improve on the mechanics. don't be stuck in the past and remember that there are more people out there that like improvements to a game / game mechanics!

How many times have people played RiSK? Would you trade Middle Earth for some random crap world? No thanks.

There is a reason why Forgotten Realms etc are so popular, because they are well thought out Worlds with lots of lore and history. You cannot randomize such things.

then go play risk, also dwarf fortress has even more backlore and is completely randomiized :P.

[Jekky]

To be fair, Dwarf Fortress has been in development for 13 years, we're hoping that Sovereignty will not take that long :)