ffb v5 impact amazing

[rizzee]

anyone who doesnt have it yet go try it out its brilliant...codies you too should try it as its what you should of done in the 1st place imo.

[Axe]

http://steamcommunity.com/app/310560/discussions/0/523890046875950279/

[Dealman]

This barely has any impact at all for me, and I'm on a G27.

No matter what settings I use, this game has the absolutely weakest piece of garbage force feedback I have ever experienced. No matter my settings, the wheel just wiggles a little bit. That's it. That's all the FFB in this game does.

Under no circumstance does it help me the slightest to get an idea what's going on with the car. It doesn't matter whether I'm on tarmac or dirt, there is barely any FFB.

As it currently stands, in all honesty, I'd recommend a controller over a wheel because this is absurd to say the least.

I can steer my cars with one finger, that's how atrocious this FFB is.

[rizzee]

Originally posted by Dealman:

This barely has any impact at all for me, and I'm on a G27.

No matter what settings I use, this game has the absolutely weakest piece of garbage force feedback I have ever experienced. No matter my settings, the wheel just wiggles a little bit. That's it. That's all the FFB in this game does.

Under no circumstance does it help me the slightest to get an idea what's going on with the car. It doesn't matter whether I'm on tarmac or dirt, there is barely any FFB.

As it currently stands, in all honesty, I'd recommend a controller over a wheel because this is absurd to say the least.

I can steer my cars with one finger, that's how atrocious this FFB is.

no m8 this ffb is amazing..make sure your damper is at 100% in profiler..im on t300

[Axe]

Originally posted by Dealman:

This barely has any impact at all for me, and I'm on a G27...

You are doing something wrong, or not doing something right.

[Dealman]

I guess, I set Damper to 100%, following a guide on the forums - but there's still no resistance going on with the wheel. All it does at most is wigggle a little, which is odd because the FFB works fine with PCARS and Raceroom so I doubt my actual FFB is broken.

[Axe]

What is it that you think is lacking? What do you want it to feel like?

[Dealman]

Originally posted by x_kevlar_x:

Try increasing scalefriction in devicesetup for G27 profile. It helped me with DFGT, which had no resistance whatsoever with default setting. I currently have it at 3.0.

I can't seem to find this option...? Do you have allow game to adjust settings ticked or unticked? I've read that a lot of people leave it unticked, which I personally think seems a bit odd

Originally posted by Axe:

What is it that you think is lacking? What do you want it to feel like?

Oh you know, maybe the fact that the FFB is so weak for me I can drive a rally car with one finger?

[TemplarGFX]

Originally posted by Dealman:

I guess, I set Damper to 100%, following a guide on the forums - but there's still no resistance going on with the wheel. All it does at most is wigggle a little, which is odd because the FFB works fine with PCARS and Raceroom so I doubt my actual FFB is broken.

I have a Logitech G27 steering wheel, and the 70+ hours Ive now spent messing with the FFB settings has been done entirely on this wheel. I can tell you right now that a properly functioning G27 user would not say the things you are about the FFB with my file. Im not saying "Oh my file is awesome" I'm saying I know for a fact at 100% everything there is fight in the wheel. You need to work it!

During my testing, I was able to get the Stratos to drive itself down the road using the correct application of position on the road, acceleration and brake/e-brake. the SAT / suspension / friction FFB was turning the wheel for me allowing me to control the car using the other inputs (to a very small degree LOL). The wheel swerves back and forth as the car's center of gravity moves around due to suspension / momentum but as the surface, speed and angles change those forces change. Too much momentum / change and the wheel turns to lock on way or the other, and pretty quick.
Is this the "just wiggles a little bit" you're refer to?

If not :

IT IS YOUR CHOICE TO FOLLOW THIS, I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONSEQUENCES

Uninstall your Logitech Profiler Software
Uninstall your G27 Wheel DRIVER via the Device Manager
Uninstall the (now unknown) device from your system via the Device Manager
Unplug the G27
Restart your computer
Install appropriate 32/64 bit Logitech Profiler software from Logitech website (download it to a new location at this time, a fresh copy in a fresh location/folder)
Plug in G27
Setup G27 profiler settings to your liking (Decide yes or no to Steering Lock and set wheel to 900 or your non lock choice). I recommend 100% Over-all and Damper. Spring 0, no centering
Verify Rally installation (removing any and all mods, so prepare for that first)
Run Dirt Rally
Go into options/controller and choose G27 preset. overwrite settings
Turn on/off Steering Lock in preferences to your choice
Run in-game Wheel Calibration
Set preferred buttons/combo
Reset FFB to 100% on all
set wheel deadzone to 0 and saturate to 100 (ill be honest I don't touch this, 100 is default?)
Play the game.

IT IS YOUR CHOICE TO FOLLOW THIS, I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONSEQUENCES

If you do all this and can still come back and say you don't feel the wheel turning itself of pushing on jumps (Original or Impact) and basically having no feedback. there is something wrong with your OS or hardware.

Originally posted by Rizzee:

anyone who doesnt have it yet go try it out its brilliant...codies you too should try it as its what you should of done in the 1st place imo.

Thanks for the positive endorsement Rizzee! I'm glad its improved the game for you, it certainly has for me!

[Axe]

Originally posted by Dealman:

...Oh you know, maybe the fact that the FFB is so weak for me I can drive a rally car with one finger?

Sorry. I didn't realise I deserved that sarcasm when I was trying to help by coming from the other direction.

[Dealman]

Originally posted by x_kevlar_x:

Originally posted by Dealman:

I can't seem to find this option...? Do you have allow game to adjust settings ticked or unticked? I've read that a lot of people leave it unticked, which I personally think seems a bit odd

steam/steamapps/common/dirt rally/forcefeedback

there's devicesetup_v2.xml open it with a text editor (notepad++ recommended for xml's)

scroll down till you see G27 and under it is line of text, values hardware id etc, and

scaleFriction = "1.0"


Change it to "3.0" and save the xml.

After I changed the value I can actually feel like I'm driving a car, not just flailing my hands in the air.

Made it feel a bit better, but only on asphalt. It seems whenever I drive on dirt, in like for example Wales - the FFB just vanishes entirely.

But if I drive in Germany, which is asphalt, the FFB feels somewhat alright, I'll probably have to up the scale friction a bit more I guess. I'll play around with those options later. Cheers!

Originally posted by Axe:

Sorry. I didn't realise I deserved that sarcasm when I was trying to help by coming from the other direction.

Haha, don't be so sensitive man :P It was already stated what my issue with the FFB was, that it doesn't feel like there is any.

And my G27 works great with Project CARS and Raceroom, right out of the box - so why it's not working in DiRT Rally, I don't know.

[Dealman]

Yeah, it's like driving a car without power steering and then jumping into a car with overwhelming power steering. You don't know whether the steering is actually working or not :P

I'm not sure what's going on with the dirt/mud though, I can feel the FFB kicking in on asphalt and get a general idea of what's going on - but I still think it's a bit weak. But I can not drive in Wales or on Greece, there is no FFB except for the occasional wiggling.

Edit:

These are my settings by the way, the wheel and pedals calibrate just fine.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=479528872
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=479539087

Profiler Settings;
Overall Effects Strength: 100%
Spring Effect Strength: 0%
Damper Effect Strength: 100%

Enable Centering Spring: Off
Centering Spring Strength: 0%

900 Degrees of Rotation

Allow Game to Adjust Settings: Yes (I've tried turning this off as well)

[OppaErich]

Well, DFGT here but I had this too. Hillclimb is OK but Rally was crap and seemed to have a steering deadzone. Try to lower your DoR in the profiler, I have it at 540 but some prefer even less, and switch soft lock off in game settings. Gave me at least the feeling of controlling the car. :) I've lost more than a minute in Rally per stage, this dropped immediately to 30 seconds per stage. Oh, with standard FFB that is.

[Wintec]

During my testing, I was able to get the Stratos to drive itself down the road using the correct application of position on the road, acceleration and brake/e-brake. the SAT / suspension / friction FFB was turning the wheel for me allowing me to control the car using the other inputs (to a very small degree LOL). The wheel swerves back and forth as the car's center of gravity moves around due to suspension / momentum but as the surface, speed and angles change those forces change. Too much momentum / change and the wheel turns to lock on way or the other, and pretty quick.
Is this the "just wiggles a little bit" you're refer to?
Hi Templar, you are doing fine work, but a rally car and modern cars have power steering and a steering rack that will keep the steering wheel strait when traveling over uneven road surfaces, so the idea that the steering should move from left to right on uneven road is not usual..you will feel a slight change but not pulling.

[Dealman]

I really don't know how to explain it, the FFB pulls the wheel left and right a little bit, with emphasis on a little bit. Hence I call it wiggle.

Even with power steering there would still be an amount of resistance if you try to steer left or right, obviously there'd be a bit more friction on asphalt compared to dirt - unless you've got the wheels sunk into mud.

The issue is though, that while I drive on dirt or gravel, there is virtually no feedback going on in the wheel. I can turn left and right super easily whether standing still or moving forwards. This is not realistic.

Normally, the steering would be easier once moving a little bit as compared to standing still. However in this game, at least for me, there is absolutely no difference in resistance felt in the wheel whether I'm standing still or moving.

And because of this, it makes driving the car feel extremely unnatural as I won't really be able to feel what's going on with the car.

That said, I still have some file tweaking to do later. But I've taken away the wheel for the time being, I'll try it again when we're doing our next racing night.

It's just odd to me that other games work pretty well with default settings, where as here it feels as though it's turned off by default. Then again, this is early access - and that's what you get for buying into it :P