Skyshard changes OUT! (but you have to pay) *updated*

[Yeshalot]

so how does everyone feel about them addressing a concern players have had or rather an annoyance players have about making ults and having to farm skyshards?

for anyone who missed out during their pax east streams they have said a skyshard change will be coming to ESO when the expansion comes out.

players will be able to skip the skyshard farming on alternate characters if one of your characters already has that achievement for the shards FOR PURCHASE.

it sounds amazing, they're giving us a way to skip the tedious skyshard farming, i can't imagine people doing it with maxed out character slots. so i was super excited to hear about this change coming up until they ended it off with for purchase.

the next day on their 2nd livestream they confirmed it will be done by the crownstore and players will not be able to gift it to you as it will be achievement based.

so the questions are:

• Are you upset about the changes being something you have to purchase for 22,250 crowns? *
  
• Would you purchase it or just farm skyshard like normally?
  
• How do you feel about them acknowledging player feedback in this way?
  
• Would you pay more than 150$ to catch up a new character to where your main is? *
  
• Do you think the price point is justified? *

context:
announcement: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/403037417?t=05h41m04s
confirmation you have to use crownstore: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/403596314?t=02h30m59s
more details on how it will work: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/403596314?t=02h32m12s

edit: *update* 5/20

so now that skyshard skipping has been implemented it was worse than i thought it would be.

I understand it's not for everyone and their main target is people who have a bunch of money and don't care about it or don't want to farm shards but this is a little over the top.

considering they have heard players do not like farming on new characters a fix/work around is a nice idea on paper but the way it's been implemented is a bit upsetting.

and who knows maybe it will not be as bad since its a crown store feature and they can do sales on it. even if it was 1 time fee for all characters you make after buying it would be more justified.

currently as it is, over 150$ spent per character to catch up to where your main is seems absurd.

[Keyrala]

legion160 の投稿を引用：

Keyrala の投稿を引用：

Yes only a few hours.

only a few hours my ass try doing it on 15 toons and see how ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ it is.

You are not supposed to lvl up, gear up and get skyshards from 15 toons at the same time tho...

It takes a few hours per character.

[Yeshalot]

legion160 の投稿を引用：

Keyrala の投稿を引用：

Yes only a few hours.

only a few hours my ass try doing it on 15 toons and see how ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ it is.

[Yeshalot]

Keyrala の投稿を引用：

legion160 の投稿を引用：

only a few hours my ass try doing it on 15 toons and see how ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ it is.

You are not supposed to lvl up, gear up and get skyshards from 15 toons at the same time tho...

It takes a few hours per character.

yeah but a few hours is a bit of a lie lol.
even with the allience skill to speed you up you still have to load in and out of delves and public dungeons and then into new zones.

eitherway they know players don't like doing it and have offered a solution for pay.

you can not farm all of the skyshards on the map in a few hours. several hours would be more correct than "a few"

[Keyrala]

In one map? is not even an hour....You must be ridding a slug instead of a horse...

[Yeshalot]

Keyrala の投稿を引用：

In one map? is not even an hour....You must be ridding a slug instead of a horse...

you have to be trolling.
your ride speed is 0 on a new character.

you will not be riding fast on any mount. BUT they might make it so you can BUY a catch up to where your main is in terms of ride speed, capacity and stamina.

it def takes more time than a "few" hours to get all of the skyshards on a new character.
but uhhh if you have a guide than can show me how to get all of the skyshards in tamriel in a few hours on a new character let me know.

they are giving us a quality of live improvement but not actually giving it to us you have to pay.
and they might continue to do things like that.

instead of just giving what the community wants they are selling the improvements the players asked for and if you don't want to cough up money on the fixes you have to do it the way they already know players dislike.

they are knowingly fixing it but at the same time if you don't pay they are keeping up the system they added a work around to.

it's a bit of a joke.

i understand its easy money for them because people have been wanting this for a long time, but to just sit here and be happy they're giving us the update players have wanted at a cost per character is a bit silly.

sure you can just farm them all or just farm enough to where your characters are playable but its the fact that they know its an issue and instead of just fixing it they are charging for the fix while knowing players don't like it.

how is that not slimey or greedy?

i know the crownstore and + members are what keep the game going but to address player feedback and know its a dislike or something thats distasteful to player who like to make alternate characters and charge for the fix is an awful practice.

[Drake]

I usually just get the shard when I need points. No need to get them all if you don't need it, unless you want the achievement, but that only needs to be done once as the dye is accouct shared.

[Keyrala]

Maybe you're a bit slow. Just take your time. You can unlock more skils that you will probably use by just reaching lv 50 and playing a few story lines. Like guild quests and main zone quests.

[Wanderer]

I don't know. Each achievement for zone is for on average 16 skyshards and that's 5 skill points. People are going to pay real money for 5 skill points?

[Inanegrain62]

Keyrala の投稿を引用：

legion160 の投稿を引用：

only a few hours my ass try doing it on 15 toons and see how ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ it is.

You are not supposed to lvl up, gear up and get skyshards from 15 toons at the same time tho...

It takes a few hours per character.

The issue takes longer when we account in loading screens, walking around in the overworld takes a large portion of my playtime to the point where books were more entertaining and ESO is just a side dish.

Sure, it's not directly related to skyshard, but still related as the loading screens are a turn off along with slow paced movement in the overworld, especially cyrodiil, it's big.

Redfeather75 の投稿を引用：

I don't know. Each achievement for zone is for on average 16 skyshards and that's 5 skill points. People are going to pay real money for 5 skill points?

yes, the tedious comes from replaying an event you've already known, the more characters, the more longer it'll take. This is just a band aid and makes me not take it.

People tend to power level to the end and start experimenting with builds, which were sometimes stupid but fun builds involving imbue weapon and fists. It's all a QoL preference that is being whined about and I would very much appreciate it if it comes, but this band aid seems like a over used band aid to the solution.

[Keyrala]

So you should get all shards for free because your computer is slow?

[Yeshalot]

Keyrala の投稿を引用：

So you should get all shards for free because your computer is slow?

you are just not getting the whole point of this thread and that's fine.
you are fine with them selling you fixes instead of just giving you fixes.

they KNOW players don't like farming it.
so they offer a solution. only for pay.
otherwise go back to the way they know players don't like.

why is that a thing? either give us money or go back to what we've heard players don't like?
it's silly.

and you are just wrong. its not a few hours to get the shards. even if your computer is slow or fast, collecting all of the shards multiple times on different characters isn't a few hours.

and you might say "you don't farm all of the shards on multiple characters at once, you're not supposed to"
well why not? are you telling people how they should play as well?

skyshard farming is tedious ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that they know players don't like and instead of just making the workaround be implemented into the game they are making players pay for it.

some people are fine with being cash cows for the game and paying for any fix the players have been asking for.
others get rubbed the wrong way when the community has been asking for a way to skip it and when they finally listen the solution is to give them money per character.

[Keyrala]

Your weird example is like you want to lvl up 15 characters at the same time, and each time you lvl up once you swap to next character.... Im not telling you to not lvl up your characters taht way, but it's incredible tedious. But to each their own, im not paying for any skyshard because im not that lazy.

I guess if you are then you have to pay like it or not. Just as lazy people needs to buy scrolls to lvl up faster.

[Yeshalot]

Keyrala の投稿を引用：

Your weird example is like you want to lvl up 15 characters at the same time, and each time you lvl up once you swap to next character.... Im not telling you to not lvl up your characters taht way, but it's incredible tedious. But to each their own, im not paying for any skyshard because im not that lazy.

I guess if you are then you have to pay like it or not. Just as lazy people needs to buy scrolls to lvl up ASAP.

the game gives you scrolls all the time to lvl alts. exp scrolls has never been an issue players have had.

skyshard farming has been, ppl either don't have enough time to farm other characters or don't want to because they could be doing better things on the game that farming for shards.

forget that they're taking our feedback, listening to us and instead of giving us the workaround and tweaking the game to make it so they will instead be charging for the workaround.

otherwise they will be sending players back to what they know players have complained about.

it feels a bit ass backwards. there's a dislike for it and they know it, so here is a fix. only if you pay. per character. otherwise go back to the way players have complained about and dislike??????

how is that any good and not a greedy system?

all you've made was insults and snarky comments so you're kind of a bully disregarding any and everyone.

if you are fine with farming that's ok.
if players don't want to farm them they will have the option.

it was a big enough problem/dislike for them to make a fix/workaround right? so why not make it an actual fix instead of something you have to pay for?

[Yeshalot]

but yes its just slow computers and slug mounts.

♥♥♥♥ the fact that they're taking our feedback of not wanting to constantly do that tedious crap and selling us the solution instead of giving it to us.

it's a slippery slope and a bad practice.

[Keyrala]

I don't think they're interested in "pls free skyshards" feedback tbh. And yes, slug mounts or maybe on foot travelers.