Assasins (espeacially peacekeeper)

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EDIT : the point , dont miss the point. Also ppl that saying you cant play the game sigh bruh. its just my idea i didnt say i cant kill them oh my god i cant parry them block them etc. my point is assasins are fast and shouldnt be able to block heroes like raider easily what i mean is parrying or blocking heavy attacks they can dodge all day they want but blocking a heavy attack? from a heavy dude seriously? i dont understand why ppl coming here and saying learn etc bla bla this is just my idea.

Currently i am not playing as a heavy hero and i really can tell the differences. Assasins are not unbeatable assasins way more easier than heavies thats the problem. Especially peacekeeper.

Atleast this should happen

Oprindeligt skrevet af Cruna:

Assassins should NOT be able to block without receiving some considerable damage. They should dodge and parry as much as possible. They do that anyway. Blocking should not be reliable for assasins.

[エキノックス・Equinox]

There is a problem about assassin's that's for sure.

But what to nerf.. i don't know, damage, hp, dodge spam .. that's really hard to nerf.

[Vacca]

Dodging needs to consume stamina. Out of staming characters can't dodge. There, assassins are fixed.

[Raidden]

nerf the max stamina they get but buff their stamina regen+

[エキノックス・Equinox]

Yea but with my nobushi an orochi kill me in 3 hit... and i need 10 hit to kill him.

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Oprindeligt skrevet af Raidden:

nerf the max stamina they get but buff their stamina regen+

actually my idea is not blocking heavy moves also guard break if i catch them it must be over or i am wrong i really dont know.

[Raidden]

Oprindeligt skrevet af バカ・ネコ Baka Neko:

Yea but with my nobushi an orochi kill me in 3 hit... and i need 10 hit to kill him.

nobushi is in a really bad place. All someone has to do is guard against her and she looses. She does not have "versatile retreats" that the game says. There is nothing versitile about them. They give no iframes and they leave her wide open during a downtime.

[Vacca]

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Oprindeligt skrevet af バカ・ネコ Baka Neko:

Yea but with my nobushi an orochi kill me in 3 hit... and i need 10 hit to kill him.

nobushi is in a really bad place. All someone has to do is guard against her and she looses. She does not have "versatile retreats" that the game says. There is nothing versitile about them. They give no iframes and they leave her wide open during a downtime.

Viper retreat was a good idea in theory, but then you realize it's always coming from the top and suddendly everyone can block it.

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Oprindeligt skrevet af Raidden:

Oprindeligt skrevet af バカ・ネコ Baka Neko:

Yea but with my nobushi an orochi kill me in 3 hit... and i need 10 hit to kill him.

nobushi is in a really bad place. All someone has to do is guard against her and she looses. She does not have "versatile retreats" that the game says. There is nothing versitile about them. They give no iframes and they leave her wide open during a downtime.

Why i'm playing only ♥♥♥♥ hero ?

all the time i fight a nobushi i lost cause she jsut spam light attack...

[Gronx]

3 hits to kill a peacekeeper. They'd need to hit a conqueror 15 times to kill.
Also I feel it's easier to put lighter targets off balance

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Oprindeligt skrevet af Gronx:

3 hits to kill a peacekeeper. They'd need to hit a conqueror 15 times to kill.

i dont think 3 hit is enough. maybe 3 raider's furry but thats not an ordinary hit dude

[Raidden]

I main Nobushi too, so I feell your pain. I love the naginata/spear design, always did. The matter of losing to other nobushi is a matter of not experiencing enough of their play because for the simple reason not many are played.

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Oprindeligt skrevet af Raidden:

I main Nobushi too, so I feell your pain. I love the naginata/spear design, always did. The matter of losing to other nobushi is a matter of not experiencing enough of their play because for the simple reason not many are played.

and i am raider also dont want to play assasin hero but they're op asf idk what to do , wait until a nerf or just lost %70 against assasins. And whenever i face against ''heavy'' hero most of the time i can beat them. (as raider)

[waddlespire]

This is my biggest concern, too...the thought behind them is that they have a steep learning curve, but in the end you just get a bunch of assassin mains that dominate the game. There do need to be a few more drawbacks other than the guarding differences. I think they should be able to block heavy attacks to an extent just to keep them somewhat viable, but their health could use some reworking. Damage could be another possibility, but if they can die faster I don't have an issue with assassins being able to spill copious amounts of blood.

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Oprindeligt skrevet af Raidden:

I main Nobushi too, so I feell your pain. I love the naginata/spear design, always did. The matter of losing to other nobushi is a matter of not experiencing enough of their play because for the simple reason not many are played.

Yea i see. i have try kensei, but same problem very predictable and slow. My main was warden, but shoulder bash all the time it's borring.. and without it he have nothing. Then i tried nobushi cause it's one of the best looking character in the game in my opinion. Mah i think i'll go play orochi or PK like everyone.

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Oprindeligt skrevet af Flapjack Beardman:

This is my biggest concern, too...the thought behind them is that they have a steep learning curve, but in the end you just get a bunch of assassin mains that dominate the game. There do need to be a few more drawbacks other than the guarding differences. I think they should be able to block heavy attacks to an extent just to keep them somewhat viable, but their health could use some reworking. Damage could be another possibility, but if they can die faster I don't have an issue with assassins being able to spill copious amounts of blood.

yes something must done mate , i really love this game and dont want it to be ruined by assasins.