Cheese environmental kills

[Fifth]

why do the developers insist on trying to make sure these types of kills are common? i do not mind a little cliff death every once in a while, but because of the map design, i frequently have games where i die to almost nothing except being thrown off of a cliff. It just makes the fun combat system irrelevant.

[Raidden]

Duel maps are notorious for this

[RhodosGuard]

When CGB is fixed to be fair for the defending party again, you will just have to learn how to counter guard break. Once you can do that reliably, it happens less.

[Fifth]

Originally posted by RhodosGuard:

When CGB is fixed to be fair for the defending party again, you will just have to learn how to counter guard break. Once you can do that reliably, it happens less.

I successfully counter guardbreak most of the time, i am mostly speaking of dominion gamemodes where you are either getting teamed or are in a team battle, and you are being guardbreak spammed by 2 or 3 people who are just trying to throw you off the nearest cliff (and there happens to be alot of cliffs due to the map design)

[ONISAIBOT]

Try playing a lawbringer on rank 3 or 4 without environmental kills.

[Fawkzi]

Originally posted by Catholicus:

Originally posted by RhodosGuard:

When CGB is fixed to be fair for the defending party again, you will just have to learn how to counter guard break. Once you can do that reliably, it happens less.

I successfully counter guardbreak most of the time, i am mostly speaking of dominion gamemodes where you are either getting teamed or are in a team battle, and you are being guardbreak spammed by 2 or 3 people who are just trying to throw you off the nearest cliff (and there happens to be alot of cliffs due to the map design)

Orochi can be terrible for this (I know because I play one) The crouching heavy strike has a knock back effect. if you're too close to a ledge they don't even need to GB you. Just crouch heavy slash (RB+RT) and you're done for.

[Saint Landwalker]

Originally posted by Catholicus:

Originally posted by RhodosGuard:

When CGB is fixed to be fair for the defending party again, you will just have to learn how to counter guard break. Once you can do that reliably, it happens less.

I successfully counter guardbreak most of the time, i am mostly speaking of dominion gamemodes where you are either getting teamed or are in a team battle, and you are being guardbreak spammed by 2 or 3 people who are just trying to throw you off the nearest cliff (and there happens to be alot of cliffs due to the map design)

I get that it's frustrating to be on the receiving end of that, but in 4v4 modes, anything goes, all the time. Especially when you consider that not throwing someone into the environment is a recipe for revenge mode.

But, by the same token, running your ass away from those sorts of encounters is also 100% on the table.

[Jeaton]

In 4v4 modes having no honor is fine, 2v2 and 1v1 modes you will be shamed on for no honor, environmental kills are fair ground.

[Fifth]

Originally posted by Landwalker04:

Originally posted by Catholicus:

I successfully counter guardbreak most of the time, i am mostly speaking of dominion gamemodes where you are either getting teamed or are in a team battle, and you are being guardbreak spammed by 2 or 3 people who are just trying to throw you off the nearest cliff (and there happens to be alot of cliffs due to the map design)

I get that it's frustrating to be on the receiving end of that, but in 4v4 modes, anything goes, all the time. Especially when you consider that not throwing someone into the environment is a recipe for revenge mode.

But, by the same token, running your ass away from those sorts of encounters is also 100% on the table.

I understand anything goes in 4v4, and i am not saying that people should have video game honor, but i just thought it was odd that the maps seem like they were DESIGNED for environmental kills to be used alot, some of the duel maps are even laughable with how narrow they are and how many cliffs are around them

[Muscarine]

Originally posted by ONISAIBOT:

Try playing a lawbringer on rank 3 or 4 without environmental kills.

Yup, some classes specifically shine with this, not everyone wants to be an LMB hero

[luke]

Numerous ways to counter people who's sole strategy is using the map to achive their kills. Just becuase the play style is effective against you doesnt mean its over powered. Compared to the alpha version of FOR HONOR they have made many changes to the map removing most of the eviromental kill potentials. With that said, I think they should make a slight change getting rid of the invisable wall stoppping players from walking themselves off the edge of the map. In my opinion this would get rid of most if not all of the cheesey play style revovled around map kills.

[Fawkzi]

Originally posted by Underachiever:

Numerous ways to counter people who's sole strategy is using the map to achive their kills. Just becuase the play style is effective against you doesnt mean its over powered. Compared to the alpha version of FOR HONOR they have made many changes to the map removing most of the eviromental kill potentials. With that said, I think they should make a slight change getting rid of the invisable wall stoppping players from walking themselves off the edge of the map. In my opinion this would get rid of most if not all of the cheesey play style revovled around map kills.

Agreed about the invisible wall. that'd be a great idea. Right now people just back up to the ledges because they know they can't call off. People even roll back to them. Take that wall away and there goes that tactic.

[Maximy]

I want map to battle to death. You have your freedom to pick your class I have my class. When I see those chinese maps full with holes, That's automatic leave for me. Call me whatever you want, I don't give a ♥♥♥♥. ^^

[cklambo \[T]/]

Originally posted by Maximy:

I want map to battle to death. You have your freedom to pick your class I have my class. When I see those chinese maps full with holes, That's automatic leave for me. Call me whatever you want, I don't give a ♥♥♥♥. ^^

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