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still don't recommend playing this
This title still isn't worth playing IMO
they used to have a free to play model and as soon as the original staff started to shift and the original mods/devs left the team, the changes started to form from F2P to heavy P2W. The shift left a nasty taste is all of the original players mouths and caused them to quit. Shortly after they chose to become 95% more strict in their ToS policies and begin banning majority of the other loyal players that stuck around.

This is a simple warning, i would play this game while walking on eggshells and i would limit the amount of $ you throw at the game, i sure wish i would have lol.
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Originally posted by 会の津シーズー:
more strict in their ToS policies and begin banning majority of the other loyal players that stuck around.
i've been away from trove for long time. wtf did they do?
Originally posted by 会の津シーズー:
This title still isn't worth playing IMO
they used to have a free to play model and as soon as the original staff started to shift and the original mods/devs left the team, the changes started to form from F2P to heavy P2W. The shift left a nasty taste is all of the original players mouths and caused them to quit. Shortly after they chose to become 95% more strict in their ToS policies and begin banning majority of the other loyal players that stuck around.

This is a simple warning, i would play this game while walking on eggshells and i would limit the amount of $ you throw at the game, i sure wish i would have lol.

Every video game faces accusations of being pay to win, so that's a tough claim to counter. What I can say is that you can install and play the game for free. You can access every area of every map without paying a cent. We have a Store available because all businesses need to provide some method by which they earn income. That's how we're able to maintain development into the future.

If you choose not to make any purchases you're not blocked from seeing any content. Players who never pay anything can still do literally everything in game. Reaching very high levels of Power Rank or Mastery can take time, for sure, but it can be done at no cost to you.

On the statement that we became 95% more strict with our ToS and started banning the majority of our players, can you provide any additional info? It feels like this may not be accurate. When I look at the data on my side, we definitely have more players who aren't banned than players who are banned.

Anyone who is banned should email appeals@trionworlds.com and the support team will look into the issue for them and address their concerns directly.

If you can provide any specific points, with details we can look into, I'll make sure we follow up on your concerns.
Last edited by BulldogFasti; Mar 1 @ 12:47pm
Originally posted by BulldogFasti:

Every video game faces accusations of being pay to win, so that's a tough claim to counter. What I can say is that you can install and play the game for free. You can access every area of every map without paying a cent. We have a Store available because all businesses need to provide some method by which they earn income. That's how we're able to maintain development into the future.

If you choose not to make any purchases you're not blocked from seeing any content. Players who never pay anything can still do literally everything in game. Reaching very high levels of Power Rank or Mastery can take time, for sure, but it can be done at no cost to you.

On the statement that we became 95% more strict with our ToS and started banning the majority of our players, can you provide any additional info? It feels like this may not be accurate. When I look at the data on my side, we definitely have more players who aren't banned than players who are banned.

Anyone who is banned should email appeals@trionworlds.com and the support team will look into the issue for them and address their concerns directly.

If you can provide any specific points, with details we can look into, I'll make sure we follow up on your concerns.

you make a point there. i understand the financial situation Trion is in. and i think every other player should understand one thing about Trion as a company before they invest their time or money in any of its products: Trion is not making games to compete with other titles at this point, it's trying to survive as a buissiness company.


make no mistake that's no excuse for how the company is handling its games. i have had my share amount of inconvenience and unsatisfaction playing Trove alone. the game still suffers from heavy p2w elements and awful time-gating. let alone that it is grindy as hell to the point that the game takes itself too seriously and treat itself as a full time job without any significant returns or rewards. you guys need to understand that hypothetical access to all in-game content by the players is not a determintal element when it comes to considering a game is p2w or not. player satisfaction and experience play a huge role in that regard. and to be frank a lot of players like me are not willing to sink tens of hours grinding only to advance a little bit and gain progress in one aspect of a game that doesn't even provide a robust gear system or other incentive than a lazy RNG leveling mechanism. that's one of other reasons why, when there does exist better alternatives, i won't be recommending this game to anyone. take that as and advice from a former player.
Originally posted by BulldogFasti:
Originally posted by 会の津シーズー:
On the statement that we became 95% more strict with our ToS and started banning the majority of our players, can you provide any additional info? It feels like this may not be accurate. When I look at the data on my side, we definitely have more players who aren't banned than players who are banned.

Thank you for a constructive reply first off.

Regarding the ban thing, i was banned around the release of a class that was locked behind a paywall (this being a prime example of why i consider this to be p2w because classes enhance gameplay) for using a glitch that allowed me to access this class without being forced to pay for it. Now as a person who has invested around 800-900$ into your company, i felt being forced to pay for something like that, it was wrong. I entertained literally any idea someone would throw at me to get it by other means. Soon after i lost over 2-3 years of progress and the 800$ i invested into skins/flux/etc..

i tried to appeal the ban and to no avail, it was ignored. I never received a reply and i could no longer even access the account to post on it's behalf.

I still feel really stupid for investing any sort of time and money into the game because of how quickly i lost a year worth of game time.

Last comments, I didn't really understand at the time how harsh the ToS was until i was basically perma banned or else i probably would have never tried to unlock the class with that glitch. Also, i felt like as someone who did not intend to be malicious and someone who was legit just a first time offender, i should have been offered some type of leeway.

Let me ask you, if someone came up to you while you walking down the street to the store and said "here, have 200$ all you have to do is sign your name" would you? i'm sure anyone would.. it's human nature.

I probably won't send another appeal due to the fact that even if i would receive my account back, i probably would just avoid doing anything on the game in fear i might be perma banned again in the future and lose even more time and money.

But, thank you Fasti.
Last edited by 会の津シーズー; Mar 2 @ 7:01pm
Logan Mar 4 @ 3:42am 
Well, i wasn't too happy with seeing a new class in game without the option to unlock it with a Class Coin - no, i'm not talking about those Starter Class Coins here - but that didn't "motivate" me to start looking for an exploit to get that new class for free...

The Devs have to draw the line somewhere, and there has to be severe consequences when a player crosses that line, otherwise who would actually pay or grind for a new class in the future?
About that "human nature" example, would you still take the money knowing that it came from a recent bank robbery and that the police can and will track down those bills?

I also don't get the fear part here, as long as you play without breaking the game rules there is nothing to be afraid of, they don't perm. bann people for fun in Trove.

Anyway, i unlocked the Vanguardian the "hard way" through farming the resources, it took me a long time, and it's currently at level 28 and 17k PR.
Last edited by Logan; Mar 4 @ 4:00am
Originally posted by Logan:
Well, i wasn't too happy with seeing a new class in game without the option to unlock it with a Class Coin - no, i'm not talking about those Starter Class Coins here - but that didn't "motivate" me to start looking for an exploit to get that new class for free...

The Devs have to draw the line somewhere, and there has to be severe consequences when a player crosses that line, otherwise who would actually pay or grind for a new class in the future?
About that "human nature" example, would you still take the money knowing that it came from a recent bank robbery and that the police can and will track down those bills?

I also don't get the fear part here, as long as you play without breaking the game rules there is nothing to be afraid of, they don't perm. bann people for fun in Trove.

Anyway, i unlocked the Vanguardian the "hard way" through farming the resources, it took me a long time, and it's currently at level 28 and 17k PR.
ikr. i never spend any money on this game and i still managed to get vanguardian the hard way and now im at 30k pr on vanguardian.
Purrz Mar 5 @ 5:13am 
Yes, I agree, there's only around 5% of items you have to pay any money for. Yes, you have to play a lot to get certain things, but if you really enjoy playing the game it's not a huge deal to not have some items.
Originally posted by Logan:
Well, i wasn't too happy with seeing a new class in game without the option to unlock it with a Class Coin - no, i'm not talking about those Starter Class Coins here - but that didn't "motivate" me to start looking for an exploit to get that new class for free...

The Devs have to draw the line somewhere, and there has to be severe consequences when a player crosses that line, otherwise who would actually pay or grind for a new class in the future?
About that "human nature" example, would you still take the money knowing that it came from a recent bank robbery and that the police can and will track down those bills?

I also don't get the fear part here, as long as you play without breaking the game rules there is nothing to be afraid of, they don't perm. bann people for fun in Trove.

Anyway, i unlocked the Vanguardian the "hard way" through farming the resources, it took me a long time, and it's currently at level 28 and 17k PR.


i dont disagree with what uve said but they should have considered the fact that the account had well over 2000 hours of game time inside and outside of steam. major amounts of money shoveled in, and the fact that i filed an appeal for my first offense ever within my 2 years of playing.

instead i was stuck looking stupid as hell because someone recommended this exploit to me and without know how harsh the consequences would end up being. I just wish they would stop acting like people dont make mistakes, did i really need a perm ban?

they basically are treating me like i injected their client with hacks/bots and ignoring me.
when in actuality, it was presented by an error in the coding of the coins.


idk.. i made a mistake but it doesnt matter because this was a year ago and they ignored any appeals i put in.

hence this post.
plus, to stay on topic, i still dont condone how vanguardian was released lol.
Last edited by 会の津シーズー; Mar 5 @ 6:31am
Moogle Mar 10 @ 1:28pm 


Originally posted by 会の津シーズー:
Well, i

i dont disagree with what uve said but they should have considered the fact that the account had well over 2000 hours of game time inside and outside of steam. major amounts of money shoveled in, and the fact that i filed an appeal for my first offense ever within my 2 years of playing.

You used a glitch to get something without paying for it.
Let me repeat:
You got something that costs mone, by using a means that was not approved of, without paying for it.
You stole from them.
Suppose you went to an arcade, and you had spent a lot of your money on the arcade. But then you find a way to use a machine without paying for it. And you abuse it. Should they let you continue and possibly spread knowledge of how to abuse the system, or should they ban you from the arcade?
Last edited by Moogle; Mar 10 @ 1:29pm
Originally posted by Moogle:
Originally posted by 会の津シーズー:
Well, i

i dont disagree with what uve said but they should have considered the fact that the account had well over 2000 hours of game time inside and outside of steam. major amounts of money shoveled in, and the fact that i filed an appeal for my first offense ever within my 2 years of playing.

You used a glitch to get something without paying for it.
Let me repeat:
You got something that costs mone, by using a means that was not approved of, without paying for it.
You stole from them.
Suppose you went to an arcade, and you had spent a lot of your money on the arcade. But then you find a way to use a machine without paying for it. And you abuse it. Should they let you continue and possibly spread knowledge of how to abuse the system, or should they ban you from the arcade?
Also imagine that arcade making special coins that give free plays (class coins that were purchased with money) then it later tells you thanks for your support but this item is now useless. there was a wave of anger when that got changed around and a bunch of people left. Also kind of sucks when exploits leak out given people would tend to use it due to getting free stuff, and this case skipping the time gate of grinding the class or spending money.
Originally posted by Moogle:
Originally posted by 会の津シーズー:
Well, i

i dont disagree with what uve said but they should have considered the fact that the account had well over 2000 hours of game time inside and outside of steam. major amounts of money shoveled in, and the fact that i filed an appeal for my first offense ever within my 2 years of playing.

You used a glitch to get something without paying for it.
Let me repeat:
You got something that costs mone, by using a means that was not approved of, without paying for it.
You stole from them.
Suppose you went to an arcade, and you had spent a lot of your money on the arcade. But then you find a way to use a machine without paying for it. And you abuse it. Should they let you continue and possibly spread knowledge of how to abuse the system, or should they ban you from the arcade?


so because i used something that allowed me to bypass 1 piece of content i deserved to be permanently disabled from playing?


it was not "rampant bug abuse" it was not scripting, botting, injecting the client, etc.

if anything the punishment does not fit the crime. The glitch was introduced by the lines of code being imperfect, while i am at fault and i do deserve to lose anything i gained from the glitch, i dont think i deserved to lose my account that i invested a year of my life in.

if you think i did deserve to be permanently banned for just rejoining to see full p2w being shoved in my face and using a glitch that someone offered me to bypass 1 piece of content (even after i spent 100$ that week for cosmetics). then i will stop replying to this thread.

i was thinking about trying to recover my account to see what they would say but, i feel like it will be rejected regardless since the punishments seem to extensive and harsh.
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