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what kind of anti cheat will this game come with?
is it kernal level, does it keep running after it's closed, etc.?
Originally posted by Corinarh:
I think it uses same AC as Once Human. Found in log that it loads kernel.dll so you have your answer it's a kernel anticheat as always.

[2024-12-06 01:48:35:579] [CORE] [STATEINFO] Loaded Kernel.dll
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Kesvalk 5 Dec @ 6:04pm 
also wanting to know this, will not even touch if it has kernel-level anti-cheat
sleepyy 5 Dec @ 6:10pm 
I noticed when I launched the game, it installed the "NEPoyhqsmt" driver service. I’m not sure if it requires kernel-level access, but it stops running when I close the game.
'kernel level' doesn't mean what you think it does

the game's AC does not require elevated system privileges over other games, a separate install, or to be active at system start
I remember when I tried Valorant a couple times I kept an article that told me how to get rid of the anticheat... lol.
Originally posted by Kesvalk:
also wanting to know this, will not even touch if it has kernel-level anti-cheat
Careful, Kernel ghosts also hide in the closet, my brother in christ
Last edited by Sol4rSky; 5 Dec @ 6:15pm
Originally posted by kaMMakaZZi9:
I remember when I tried Valorant a couple times I kept an article that told me how to get rid of the anticheat... lol.
with the uninstall button?
Originally posted by Coldflame:
'kernel level' doesn't mean what you think it does

the game's AC does not require elevated system privileges over other games, a separate install, or to be active at system start

it can be kernel level, simply by operating at the kernel level in your system, it doesn't need prio over other games explicitly, nor does it need to be active necessarily on boot, although that is mainly how kernel level/root level AC's go, at least the most efficient way. Some are just required to be run during the game, while still being kernel level in it's access. Take that how you will, or anyone else reading this, I'm not preaching against kernel level AC's, but it is good to be aware of how and when they operate.
Originally posted by Sneaky⸸Blunders:
Originally posted by Coldflame:
'kernel level' doesn't mean what you think it does

the game's AC does not require elevated system privileges over other games, a separate install, or to be active at system start

it can be kernel level, simply by operating at the kernel level in your system, it doesn't need prio over other games explicitly, nor does it need to be active necessarily on boot, although that is mainly how kernel level/root level AC's go, at least the most efficient way. Some are just required to be run during the game, while still being kernel level in it's access. Take that how you will, or anyone else reading this, I'm not preaching against kernel level AC's, but it is good to be aware of how and when they operate.
any anti cheat that's remotely functional in 2024 is going to be kernel level, which is why OP's question is not actually 'is the AC kernel level'

OP's question is 'is the AC like vanguard', to which the answer is no
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Corinarh (Banned) 5 Dec @ 6:31pm 
I think it uses same AC as Once Human. Found in log that it loads kernel.dll so you have your answer it's a kernel anticheat as always.

[2024-12-06 01:48:35:579] [CORE] [STATEINFO] Loaded Kernel.dll
Last edited by Corinarh; 5 Dec @ 6:32pm
Originally posted by Coldflame:
Originally posted by Sneaky⸸Blunders:

it can be kernel level, simply by operating at the kernel level in your system, it doesn't need prio over other games explicitly, nor does it need to be active necessarily on boot, although that is mainly how kernel level/root level AC's go, at least the most efficient way. Some are just required to be run during the game, while still being kernel level in it's access. Take that how you will, or anyone else reading this, I'm not preaching against kernel level AC's, but it is good to be aware of how and when they operate.
any anti cheat that's remotely functional in 2024 is going to be kernel level, which is why OP's question is not actually 'is the AC kernel level'

OP's question is 'is the AC like vanguard', to which the answer is no
ah ok my mistake, just wanted to clarify if there was confusion on what still is in fact kernel level. but yeh you're correct, and honestly kernel level AC's are simply better overall. There's maybe some outliers but I cant think of any off the top of my head that aren't functionally better at their purpose than other ac's.

EDIT: after re reading I still think that OP was indeed asking if the game had kernel access in general, and then if so what type of kernel access, so when you said it doesnt mean what they think it means, i think i got confused, because it seems they understood what kernel level meant
Last edited by Sneaky⸸Blunders; 5 Dec @ 6:35pm
Originally posted by Sneaky⸸Blunders:
Originally posted by Coldflame:
any anti cheat that's remotely functional in 2024 is going to be kernel level, which is why OP's question is not actually 'is the AC kernel level'

OP's question is 'is the AC like vanguard', to which the answer is no
ah ok my mistake, just wanted to clarify if there was confusion on what still is in fact kernel level. but yeh you're correct, and honestly kernel level AC's are simply better overall. There's maybe some outliers but I cant think of any off the top of my head that aren't functionally better at their purpose than other ac's.

EDIT: after re reading I still think that OP was indeed asking if the game had kernel access in general, and then if so what type of kernel access, so when you said it doesnt mean what they think it means, i think i got confused, because it seems they understood what kernel level meant
anyone who knows what they are talking about knows that 'does this 2024 release multiplayer shooter have kernel level anticheat' is not a serious question
Originally posted by Coldflame:
Originally posted by Sneaky⸸Blunders:
ah ok my mistake, just wanted to clarify if there was confusion on what still is in fact kernel level. but yeh you're correct, and honestly kernel level AC's are simply better overall. There's maybe some outliers but I cant think of any off the top of my head that aren't functionally better at their purpose than other ac's.

EDIT: after re reading I still think that OP was indeed asking if the game had kernel access in general, and then if so what type of kernel access, so when you said it doesnt mean what they think it means, i think i got confused, because it seems they understood what kernel level meant
anyone who knows what they are talking about knows that 'does this 2024 release multiplayer shooter have kernel level anticheat' is not a serious question

I mean fair lol. Can't argue with that
haxo 5 Dec @ 7:18pm 
Originally posted by Corinarh:
I think it uses same AC as Once Human. Found in log that it loads kernel.dll so you have your answer it's a kernel anticheat as always.

[2024-12-06 01:48:35:579] [CORE] [STATEINFO] Loaded Kernel.dll
appreciate the proof, ty
So I uninstalled the game.. is there anything special I need to do to remove any traces of this game's anticheat?
Originally posted by kaMMakaZZi9:
So I uninstalled the game.. is there anything special I need to do to remove any traces of this game's anticheat?
it's too late, the ccp nanobots have already been dispersed through your PC's fan and began reprogramming your mind
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