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Kekskonsument Jun 10, 2017 @ 2:08am
Is there any animal database on the net?
I love NMS, and I really would like to collect data about as many discovered animal species as possible. It's the data you can see in your menu, as follows:

- solar system coordinates and maybe name
- planet name
- animal name
- discovered by ...
- gender
- temperament
- diet
- weight
- height
- maybe where it has been found (land, air, cave, water), but that can be difficult to tell if you enter data of animals of planets where you aren't any more, since this info is not 100 % sure in the animals list ingame (habitat order as written above).
- maybe screenshot (cos that's much effort and needs more server disk space)

The data should be uploaded and be able to be accessed on the internet - so either a very simple database (should be easy with SQL, but I can't do SQL), or a shared excel file.

Questions:
- Hello Games told sth. about "half a million species discovered within the first hour" and so on. Do they actually store the data of the "uploaded" species, or is that uploading useless cos they only COUNT the NUMBER of uploads?
- If Hello Games has all the discovered species data, will they release a database on their website? Would be so useful.
- Is there any SEARCHABLE community-made or user-made database on the net already existing?
- If there is no database, are we permitted to create one (license of the game files...) ?
- If we may create a database, how shall we do it and who wants to take part?

Eagerly awaiting your responses. :o)

Kekskonsument

P.S. Please keep this thread free of "broken promises" complaining. ;o)
Last edited by Kekskonsument; Jun 10, 2017 @ 2:44am
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Batnip Jun 10, 2017 @ 5:04am 
There IS a database already made, for everything in the game (well, I'm pretty sure). Though there aren't many uploads.

http://athenadb.space/#

Questions:

1. More than likely the number of uploads, and this isn't even accounting for offline data.
2. That is doubtful, they probably don't want to bother.
3. The link I listed above, though take into account there are not many discoveries.
4. There would (shouldn't be) be no legality issues with images, height, weight, etc. as they don't own any rights to images taken by you.
5. Since the current database isn't filled much, making a creature based database would be nice. Sounds like fun, and I'd be happy to help.
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jonnin Jun 10, 2017 @ 8:03am 
... would just be crab, planet whazzit 7, crab, planet jimbob's home, crab, planet ifoundthistoo, crab, ....
BaneBlackGuard Jun 10, 2017 @ 8:40am 
I would love to see that kind of functionality in the galaxy map. hover over a star and have it pop up a button you can click to view Atlas database info on that star system.

then you would have instant data about what others have discovered in a system just by tapping into the Atlas database that everyone has been uploading to.
Last edited by BaneBlackGuard; Jun 10, 2017 @ 8:41am
aggressor27 Jun 10, 2017 @ 8:53am 
Originally posted by Batnip:
http://athenadb.space/#
Thank you for posting this.

There is also NMStracker.com although Athena seems to be a bit more specific with a well-rounded UI. I appreciate the work of both webmasters, but my only gripe is I can't go back to edit things once they've been published on either of those sites in the event of overlooked mistakes or more information I wanna add on a discovery.
y_Sensei Jun 10, 2017 @ 9:08am 
I'd really prefer to have a solution that either simply displays what we're uploading already anyway, or if that's not possible due to lack of a respective API, one that's reading my gameplay as it happens and uploads my discoveries somewhere else (in other words, a Mod that does that).
In that respect, No Man's Connect is a step into the right direction, although it doesn't exactly do what the OP has in mind.
aggressor27 Jun 10, 2017 @ 9:30am 
Originally posted by y_Sensei:
I'd really prefer to have a solution that either simply displays what we're uploading already anyway, or if that's not possible due to lack of a respective API, one that's reading my gameplay as it happens and uploads my discoveries somewhere else (in other words, a Mod that does that).
In that respect, No Man's Connect is a step into the right direction, although it doesn't exactly do what the OP has in mind.
And thank you very much for reminding me to check this. Had issues with it crashing before but it's been updated recently and is working perfectly.
Batnip Jun 10, 2017 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by aggressor27:
Originally posted by Batnip:
http://athenadb.space/#
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Then let's make a database, a user-friendly one. I mean, everyone loves upvote systems, right? A database made solely so you can upload and edit your creatures, post their coordinates, everything pretty much. Could even potentially have a mod linked to said website, when you're online, and you scan a new species (or are in the library), you can choose to add it to the site and if you do, it redirects you to the "add a creature" page.
aggressor27 Jun 10, 2017 @ 11:43am 
Originally posted by Batnip:
Originally posted by aggressor27:
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Then let's make a database, a user-friendly one. I mean, everyone loves upvote systems, right? A database made solely so you can upload and edit your creatures, post their coordinates, everything pretty much. Could even potentially have a mod linked to said website, when you're online, and you scan a new species (or are in the library), you can choose to add it to the site and if you do, it redirects you to the "add a creature" page.

Before you posted that link I'd been considering something like that using squarespace or some other host with generic, user-friendly layouts (I don't know the slightest about HTML, or bandwidth considerations, storage costs, etc).

HG needs to meet us half way and give us a bit more administrative data in the Discoveries menu once a planet has been explored, such as biome, temperature average and min/max, resources (the ones that display after system scans), etc to make cataloging easier for pseudo-explorers like myself. Especially when we forgot to log a specific value and have to travel all the way back to the planet to get it.

I have a cluster of 29 systems and 121 planetary bodies (each with accompanying screen shot) so far that I've been cataloging on a spreadsheet since April that I'd love to archive and share with the world, and I think Athena is absolutely perfect for that. Just need to be able to edit discoveries. Does anyone in the community speak with the web designer Dale-Anthony who could maybe ask if that's a possibility?
Batnip Jun 10, 2017 @ 11:52am 
Originally posted by aggressor27:
I'm gonna snip this my dude

If you don't know anything about html, then I have good news for you, it's easy as hell. Yeah, that'd not only increase the creatures in the database, but it'd probably make a lot of players happy.

As for Dale-Anthony, you're probably out of luck, sorry to say. Web developers (professional) usually don't come cheap, and if they do, you're still gonna burn a few games off.
Kekskonsument Jun 10, 2017 @ 12:21pm 
Good to see that there are more people like me out there. ;o)

Well, the downside of Athena is, that you cannot enter specific animal data, e.g. weight or diet. And moreover, you cannot search for specific combinations of animals (e.g. herbivores smaller than 1,50 meters). That's what I actually have in mind. I'm not registered with Athena, but I don't think registeres members are able to search either. In order to use Athena (which is pretty well made, apart from that), the admin would have to put some efforts in it to add these values.

NMS tracker seems similar to Athena, however with less parameters it seems.

Integrating our wishes into an existing mod in the way that BaneBlackGuard explained, that would be awesome.

In general, AUTOMATIC data input into that database directly from the game shall be prefered, cos nobody wants to switch windows all the time from game to database and back just to put in all the data manually.

*sigh* :o)
Last edited by Kekskonsument; Jun 10, 2017 @ 12:22pm
Lil Puppy Jun 10, 2017 @ 10:21pm 
All of the location information would be invalidated instantly if and when the developers change the seed # for generating the universe. It's already happened once, it'll happen again.

Maybe something like what Spore did with their Sporepedia to upload your creatures.
Kekskonsument Jun 11, 2017 @ 2:06am 
Indeed, IF they change the seed number, our efforts would be kinda useless, that's an important point. However, I can't withstand collecting data. :D
Kekskonsument Jun 11, 2017 @ 5:44am 
Okay guys, now there IS an animal database. However, we have to fill it with data. I made a google spreadsheet that everyone can edit. Don't worry, I'll make backups from time to time, if not google offers that option too, not sure.

Edit: The sheet will be continued by me only cos nobody contributed to it, thus I've taken it offline.

You shall do it in English (or German, I will standardize to English later), also, you can drop an image link in the comments column. Remember to use the English number format: #.##, not #,##, and drag down the automatically calculated column to where you finish.

If you look for specific combinations of parameters, e.g. Air creatures with gender male etc., you can use the filters at the top of each column. Yes, it's searchable!

What I don't know (yet) cos I'm kinda new to NMS is, how to get the star system coordinates when you are not right there. Guess one has to use a mod then.

The good news is, that, if this thing grows and someone later makes a more pleasant database (filemaker, SQL and the like), we can easily export and import these data. :o)

Hope to "read" from y'all soon! :o)

Kekskonsument

Edit: Good news: The admin of the German NMS forum https://germanssky.de/ is about to programme a SQL database which connects animal, planets and star systems sheets and will be searchable. Hopefully also with filter and sort functions. That's what the wikis out there, including Athena, are missing.
Last edited by Kekskonsument; Jun 15, 2017 @ 8:06am
Kekskonsument Jun 11, 2017 @ 10:13am 
I filled in some 239 animal species already, have a look:

Edit: I took the shared sheet offline cos nobody except for me put in data. If you are interested in an animal database, check https://germanssky.de, the admin is about to programme a database into which also can be put data about star systems and planets.
Last edited by Kekskonsument; Jun 15, 2017 @ 8:05am
DW Aug 4, 2017 @ 3:27am 
Hey folks, someone just shared this thread with me... I'm the creator of Athena. Over the moon that you guys found it :)

Some good news... I'm in the process of updating the site with better upload options and a ton of new properties.

Someone here also mentioned it would be good to have the ability to edit things you've already uploaded... I hear ya and I'll make sure that's added.

My plan is to get the site back online for the new NMS update, things are going well and there isn't a whole lot left for me to do.

Making the database searchable is also planned, it'll take a bit of work but I'm aiming on getting it in ASAP.

In the meantime if you have any other suggestions post them here and I'll keep an eye out and see what I can do.

<3

Last edited by DW; Aug 4, 2017 @ 3:28am
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