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The Steam Community Group Rules and Values Thread
Steam has it's own set of rules and guidelines for communities, and you can find a link to that on the right of the discussions tab. But I feel it's important to reiterate those rules, as well as a few other bits to encourage a constructive, helpful community. For those familiar with the Hawken official forums' rules, you can basically assume things are pretty similar overall. I'll repost some of the Steam general rules that are particularly prescient for our community, but you can find the full list (that is always in effect across Steam) here.

General Rules
  • No flaming or insulting other members
  • No personally identifiable information (names, address, phone number, etc.)
  • Do not bump threads
  • Do not derail from a thread's topic
  • Do not post spam
  • Do not phish

Topics That Are Off Limits
  • Inappropriate or offensive content
  • Any piracy discussion
  • Cheating/hacking/exploits
  • Threats
  • Soliciting, begging, advertising, etc.
  • Racism
  • Drugs
  • Religious or political topics

So that covers the repost of the Steam general rules, but again, remember that all general Steam community rules apply here at all times, even if they were not explicitly listed. Now for the stuff that's more specific to us.

1) ALWAYS be respectful to other players. Everyone has disagreements, but you can always work through those disagreements while maintaining respect.

2) Feedback is important - and it's always appreciated, but keep it constructive. This game is in Early Access, and there's always space for things to improve in one way or another. However, keep in mind that game developers are human too. When you're giving your feedback, don't be afraid to say when you feel something is wrong or broken, but don't attack the developers or other players in the process. As important as feedback is, the people who are in a position to make a change will not want to look at that feedback if most of it attacks them. Being constructive in your criticism makes for a much better game in the end.

3) No callouts. This is a pretty interesting rule from the official forums, and I'd like to continue it. What this means is you don't call out your fellow players for any reason - whether they had poor sportsmanship or played poorly or whatever. If a player is breaking rules in game, like with racism or personal attacks, send a message to Hawken support with their name and information regarding the incident. Don't post it here - it only incites drama. Call out threads will be removed.

4) No "Goodbye posts" this is another cool rule from the official forums that I'm continuing here. Posts intended to incite drama, or are unconstructive in the sense that they are just announcing you are leaving the game or community or whatever, are not tolerated and will be removed. If you dislike something, give constructive feedback on it, don't flame, attack, or be generally unconstructive to a wider discussion. Don't post about how change X is resulting in you leaving, or anything similar.

5) Have fun. It sounds trite and stereotypical and please feel free to point and laugh at me for it. But in all seriousness, if you have fun, and you show it, other members of the community start having more fun too, and it makes for a better experience for everyone.
Last edited by Saturnine Aberrance; Feb 24, 2014 @ 12:57pm
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Ottobot Feb 7, 2014 @ 7:39pm 
Thanks for group rules breakdown Saturnine. Great work as always!
Sol Feb 17, 2014 @ 5:38pm 
Yes, I would like to know exactly why we cannot call out your *mods* for deleting threads that do not glorify your game. I am pretty sure that it is ok to have an opinion about your game whether it is positive or negative but in this case the moderator Keji Goto is continually deleting posts and locking threads that do not have a positive spin for your game, is this something you instructed Keji Goto to do? Or do you advocate allowing people to discuss your game whether it is positive or negatve and if so, can you please let him to stop going ape over people opinions that do not mesh with his?
We don't delete threads that "dont glorify the game." If we were, we're doing a very terrible job of it, and we need to do more deleting. There are plenty of places where people are posting their opinions on the game, positive or negative. The only threads I have seen locked by him are ones where threads on that exact topic already exist, and so the purpose is to direct the discussion to those topics. No one wants hundreds of threads all saying the same thing.

As for 'not calling out mods', there's a general rule against callouts, but more specifically if you visit the Steam Discussion Rules and Guidelines listing (link) you'll note that there's a rule for that there. Most mod actions from us in regards to that particular rule have tended to be minimal if they occurred at all - except when the Steam-wide mods catch wind, and they are far less tolerant of it.
Last edited by Saturnine Aberrance; Feb 17, 2014 @ 6:02pm
Beast Mode! Oct 16, 2015 @ 8:07pm 
ohh think im late to this dicussion :D
Max Is Back Mar 25, 2016 @ 12:45pm 
Originally posted by MasterTos:
ohh think im late to this dicussion :D
Not as late as me

Oh, but I had a point - these are sensible rules for maintaining a friendly and constructive community. Rules 3 and 4 are especially important in my opinion as those posts are almost exclusively for attention seeking and/or inciting unconstructive drama. The developers and even many other users want your feedback, but nobody wants your life story or your histrionic account of why you're "finally dumping this *%^$ POS once and for all rabble rabble!"

Just my 2c. Constructive feedback is interesting and useful, breathless histrionics are boring and not even helpful because any feedback that may be present is doused in bias.

@Herzog - If you have valid concerns about a moderator I would suggest trying to raise them politely and earnestly with another moderator such as Nept. I'm sure there's some camaraderie amongst the mods but I've never found them to be unfair, especially Nept, so I'm sure if you raise a valid protest in a polite and proper manner then any issues will be resolved quietly behind the scenes. If there's a problem then it's far more likely to get resolved with an informal chat between mods behind the scenes that a visible spat on the public forums.

Maybe I'm wrong but I think that's how I'd go about things if I thought a moderator was acting inappropriately.

P.S. Yes I know how old this thread is but where's the harm in chiming in, right?!
Last edited by Max Is Back; Mar 25, 2016 @ 1:22pm
Saturnine Aberrance Mar 25, 2016 @ 10:08pm 
Originally posted by Max Is Back:
Originally posted by MasterTos:
ohh think im late to this dicussion :D

@Herzog - If you have valid concerns about a moderator I would suggest trying to raise them politely and earnestly with another moderator such as Nept. I'm sure there's some camaraderie amongst the mods but I've never found them to be unfair, especially Nept, so I'm sure if you raise a valid protest in a polite and proper manner then any issues will be resolved quietly behind the scenes. If there's a problem then it's far more likely to get resolved with an informal chat between mods behind the scenes that a visible spat on the public forums.

Maybe I'm wrong but I think that's how I'd go about things if I thought a moderator was acting inappropriately.

Hey thanks for the feedback dude! However, I have a feeling you found Nept's moderation here to be quite fair because... he's not a mod! There's little objectionable modding to be done when you aren't a mod. :D

In the event of a mod acting inappropriately in whatever way, go ahead and tell one of the other ones and we'll definitely take a look at what's going on. To see a list of who has mod powers in this subforum you can go to this link, where everyone with a silver or gold star has the priveleges you're referring to. There are also the volunteer moderators that moderate all steam communities, but they tend to be quite busy with literally the entire steam community, and they probably aren't too interested in squabbles between unaffiliated mods in specific game subsections.
Last edited by Saturnine Aberrance; Mar 25, 2016 @ 10:12pm
Max Is Back Mar 26, 2016 @ 12:46am 
Originally posted by Saturnine Aberrance:
Hey thanks for the feedback dude! However, I have a feeling you found Nept's moderation here to be quite fair because... he's not a mod! There's little objectionable modding to be done when you aren't a mod. :D
Ahh, my humble apologies. In truth I've just returned to the game and the community after several months' hiatus and i don't recall the circumstances that led to my interactions with Nept, but for whatever reason at the time I asscribed it to some sort of administrative action and clearly drew some incorrect conclusions as a result. Again, my apologies.

But all I was really trying to say is that any concerns about a specific moderator are generally best raised with other mods so they can all discuss it privately and informally. This tends to achieve a lot more than "Calling Out" mods publicly.
Last edited by Max Is Back; Mar 26, 2016 @ 1:01am
VIRTUS.PRO Dec 8, 2016 @ 8:43pm 
August 19th
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Some updates on development:

For Hawken on console we have the first content update going through certification testing. Right now we just have a few more bugs to fix, and then we’ll be ready to push that update out to the world! This content update will include more holo taunts, controller vibration support, controller button mapping changes, some frame-rate improvements, and some other performance improvements. We’ve moved all game-server hosting over to physical servers, and once this update goes live, you should see some even smoother game-play overall, since we’ve got some server improvements there as well.

For the PC community we are still working on the build pipeline to publish up to Steam, but the testing so far is promising. We want to port over some of the performance improvements we’ve found during console development, and we want to get some of the cosmetics moved over as well. Generally speaking, we still want to keep the PC build the same for the time being and take our time with any migration work. We’ve been gathering more technical details related to things like anti-cheat, hosting performance improvements, and what it would take to create things like leader boards and clan-related systems.
Scully Jan 13 @ 4:25am 
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I like this game but it sometimes need money,and I'm Chinese,I don't know too much English(middle school's student play HAWKEN is difficult)
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