Star Control: Origins

Star Control: Origins

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SchweddyBalls Sep 20, 2018 @ 11:21am
4-5 second complete freezes
I had this issue in the fleets beta and still have it now.... everything from the main menu to the settings page to being in game every 10 seconds it seems i have a complete game/system freeze for 4-5 seconds at a time

specs: amd phenom2 x3 720 triple core
16GB ram
AMD R9 280x 3GB
windows 7 fully up to date as well as latest AMD driver specifically optimized for star control

Is it just my old ass CPU?
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Draginol  [developer] Sep 20, 2018 @ 11:24am 
No. I have a suggestion that might help you here and on other games.

It sounds like you have thermal throttling going on.

This is an app I recommend called Speccy:

https://www.ccleaner.com/speccy

It'll tell you the temperature of your CPU and GPU.

The easiest thing you can do is make sure all your fans are on that should be. If you have an app that will tweak fan speeds, that will help too.

You have a great video card btw.
SchweddyBalls Sep 20, 2018 @ 11:32am 
I mean I have win7 gadgets that tell me all the temps. Now about 3-4 months ago one of my fans stopped working(although i can still manually start the fan by turning the speeds to 80% or higher and it kicks in so that's weird) but otherwise, I've been gaming fine with just one fan

ill try to turn the fan on high(there-by kicking on both fans) before getting in game and seeing if that makes a difference---but out of the 600+ games i own ive never had this issue. Usually, at this point my CPU just lags (but not like this) on more recent games that are physics or particle heavy/intensives but nothing like this will report back asap

Draginol  [developer] Sep 20, 2018 @ 11:34am 
Yea the thing about Star Control is that it uses the Nitrous engine. This means all 3 of your cores could be feeding your monster GPU at once which would heat it up beyond what it would normally get.
miljenkomelo Sep 20, 2018 @ 11:35am 
I'm also getting this freezes, although they are shorter, half sec. or so...
I have Intel i7, 16gb RAM and RX580 graphic card, I even lowered my graphical settings, I should have plenty of juice to run this game smoothly. Could it be a sound issue??
Satoru Sep 20, 2018 @ 11:40am 
Originally posted by miljenkomelo:
I'm also getting this freezes, although they are shorter, half sec. or so...
I have Intel i7, 16gb RAM and RX580 graphic card, I even lowered my graphical settings, I should have plenty of juice to run this game smoothly. Could it be a sound issue??

Like Draginol says try to monitor your temps on your GPU and CPU and see what they look like. Possible you could have a different issue but lets rule that out first
Last edited by Satoru; Sep 20, 2018 @ 11:40am
SchweddyBalls Sep 20, 2018 @ 11:52am 
Originally posted by Draginol:
Yea the thing about Star Control is that it uses the Nitrous engine. This means all 3 of your cores could be feeding your monster GPU at once which would heat it up beyond what it would normally get.
My GPU (left the game running while it was having its heart attacks) and it stayed at 47.0C

(unreal engine usually cooks my GPU--the game "witch it" makes both fans kick on once and a while usually hit around 56-60C) I mean this freeze is system-wide. the start menu--alt-tabbing out. pulling up other windows// folders

EDIT: i also tried changing GFX settings in-game from fullscreen/borderless,windowed all the same
Last edited by SchweddyBalls; Sep 20, 2018 @ 11:53am
Bernie Sep 20, 2018 @ 12:11pm 
Try Processlasso, (do a google search) My machine was doing the freeze thing and this little program fixed it for everything. The best part is it is free.
SchweddyBalls Sep 20, 2018 @ 12:27pm 
Originally posted by tusler:
Try Processlasso, (do a google search) My machine was doing the freeze thing and this little program fixed it for everything. The best part is it is free.

good suggestion but it didn't work. it does show the issue graph wise though. is my CPU bottlenecking?

https://imgur.com/a/jCMwdba
Last edited by SchweddyBalls; Sep 20, 2018 @ 12:29pm
miljenkomelo Sep 20, 2018 @ 12:59pm 
Any help with stuttering is greatly apreciaded... I was really looking forward to this game!!

You can see stuttering in this video... https://youtu.be/BTV3RWpnkQY

Settings are at lowest possible, and I think I have decent PC for this game.
CPU - Intel i7 7700K,
16GB RAM,
RX580 graphic card...

My temperatures are normal (shown in video also)...

Last edited by miljenkomelo; Sep 20, 2018 @ 1:22pm
VDmitry Sep 20, 2018 @ 1:14pm 
My freezes too. Main menu, during loading, during gameplay - doesn't matter. Sound slutters. Everything slutters.

CPU spikes from average 30% to 100% usage.

My HW is similar to the OP. Athlon 64 X2 with AMD R9 270, Win 7, 8 GB RAM.
Last edited by VDmitry; Sep 20, 2018 @ 1:16pm
SchweddyBalls Sep 20, 2018 @ 1:16pm 
the two guys above me post what CPU you use
P.Shaw  [developer] Sep 20, 2018 @ 2:14pm 
Originally posted by miljenkomelo:
Any help with stuttering is greatly apreciaded... I was really looking forward to this game!!

You can see stuttering in this video... https://youtu.be/BTV3RWpnkQY

Settings are at lowest possible, and I think I have decent PC for this game.
CPU - Intel i7 7700K,
16GB RAM,
RX580 graphic card...

My temperatures are normal (shown in video also)...


I haven't seen that stuttering on my AMD boxes here. Are you up to date on your AMD drivers?

https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-18-9-2
Last edited by P.Shaw; Sep 20, 2018 @ 2:14pm
VDmitry Sep 20, 2018 @ 2:31pm 
Originally posted by VDmitry:
My freezes too. Main menu, during loading, during gameplay - doesn't matter. Sound slutters. Everything slutters.

CPU spikes from average 30% to 100% usage.

My HW is similar to the OP. Athlon 64 X2 with AMD R9 270, Win 7, 8 GB RAM.

Played a bit longer...

- Heavy freezes are for Loading screens and some dialogs where large background appears and looks like voices are being loaded too - 50% of time or even more the game is hung
- Medium or low freezes are for starship navigation or on planet surfaces - happens rather occasional

I've started to use Battle Encoder Shirasé (BES) software, but not sure yet if it makes some difference for Star Control. In particular it helps to avoid constant freezes in Kingdom Come Deliverance for me.
Last edited by VDmitry; Sep 20, 2018 @ 2:38pm
SchweddyBalls Sep 20, 2018 @ 5:05pm 
FIXED IT:::for me at least. using the program Tusler recommended (and can also be done with windows built-in task manager) switched the priority class to high: still a tad bit of shutter but no freezes anymore!

tinkering more with settings-- anti-aliasing setting is probably the most taxing of settings turn that down to max x4 or less gives much better noticeable improvements in my case
sean.drohan  [developer] Sep 20, 2018 @ 5:26pm 
Originally posted by Schweddy Balls:
FIXED IT:::for me at least. using the program Tusler recommended (and can also be done with windows built-in task manager) switched the priority class to high: still a tad bit of shutter but no freezes anymore!

tinkering more with settings-- anti-aliasing setting is probably the most taxing of settings turn that down to max x4 or less gives much better noticeable improvements in my case

Excellent to hear, Schweddy ;) Thanks for the feedback.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager
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