Satellite Reign

Satellite Reign

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Mors Jul 17, 2016 @ 8:00am
Local Co-Op
The store page says now that game has Loca Co-Op ("Couch Co-Op") but no one seems to know about it. Is it true, or will it get it later?
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Gillsing Jul 17, 2016 @ 8:44am 
Local Co-Op = Couch Co-Op? If that's true, then I suspect that 5 Lives don't know about it, because nowhere in the game have I seen the option for two players to share a screen. I think that they may just equate multi-player to co-op, though perhaps stressing the "co-op" part, since it's certainly not agents vs agents, which was the multi-player in Syndicate Wars.

So I still believe that "Local Co-Op" = "Co-Op over a Local Area Network".
Mors Jul 17, 2016 @ 8:56am 
Originally posted by Gillsing:
Local Co-Op = Couch Co-Op? If that's true, then I suspect that 5 Lives don't know about it, because nowhere in the game have I seen the option for two players to share a screen. I think that they may just equate multi-player to co-op, though perhaps stressing the "co-op" part, since it's certainly not agents vs agents, which was the multi-player in Syndicate Wars.

So I still believe that "Local Co-Op" = "Co-Op over a Local Area Network".

It use to be:

Co-Op = Shared gameplay, so you played on same computer with friend(s) if you had multiple controllers. Like ie. Settlers III supported two mouse (two ports like Serial and P/S2)

Multiplayer = LAN/Null Modem gameplay or even Internet (then it was just called as TCP/IP or Modem) with or against your friend(s). Like you could play a Quake or Doom with a friend or even just fight against each others.

So what changed?

Co-Op is today like Multiplayer, and Multiplayer is almost like a standard for the games.

But people still love to play on same computer, in same living room with a shared or split screens!

Gillsing Jul 17, 2016 @ 10:28am 
I don't know what has changed, or if anything really has changed. I'm certainly not very knowledgeable on the subject of multiplayer lingo. But I know Satellite Reign well enough to figure out that it wouldn't be suitable for sharing the screen with other players.
WetWired  [developer] Jul 17, 2016 @ 4:21pm 
Local refers to Local Area Network as in LAN. That's the terminology we use in game to define the two types, Internet and Local.

Steam also uses that same terminology, with 2 seperate options to describe the "players" support of your game, one being "Shared/Split Screen" and the other "Local Multiplayer" whereas "LAN" is not an option.
Last edited by WetWired; Jul 17, 2016 @ 5:39pm
Flash Jul 18, 2016 @ 12:26am 
Many players, especially those with consoles, will probably mistake "local multiplayer" with Splitscreen/Couch-coop, as that terminology is just common there.

The one-stop-place for coop-info has it clear and correct, though:
http://www.co-optimus.com/game/4115/pc/satellite-reign.html

4 player online, 4 player LAN, 0 player local/couch, no local-online mix. The "Co-Op DLC" is a bit misleading as the functionality got released in the game itself free of charge, but that's clearly visible from the Steam Store page.

So the confusion is understandable, but the necessary infos are easily accessable.


Edit: Wait a minute. Didn't I already post here? With the Splitscreen and stuff? Did my post get deleted? Why?

Edit2: Nope, we just have an almost 100% identical thread on the second page. Maybe it's time to update the FAQ. There are many people who don't know about Unity's region lock, too. Maybe that should be added, too.

Edit3: Just checked the FAQ. It already clearly states that there is no splitscreen-MP.
Edit4: So is the region lock... I guess I stopped reading after I found out the MP-beta is accessable and just downloaded it anxiously...
Last edited by Flash; Jul 18, 2016 @ 12:39am
Mors Jul 18, 2016 @ 4:46pm 
Multiplayer CO-OP includes both internet (WAN) and LAN.

Local CO-OP means game on same computer, without any network.

Now all possible CO-OP combinations are listed and is causing only problems.
WetWired  [developer] Jul 18, 2016 @ 5:07pm 
Just copying and pasting this from elsewhere for reference

Steam has a clear distinction in their category marking for players between "Local Multiplayer" and "Shared/Split Screen" If we don't use the Local option there is no other option to define Local LAN play.

We cannot help the difference in terminology but can only use the options Steam has provided for us.

Here's a link to show you the options available http://imgur.com/jWxeg0B
Tiramisu Jul 20, 2016 @ 9:49pm 
This thread helped clear something up :) I was going to ask if I should get 1 or 2 copies for local coop, wanting to know if its much the same experience with 2 people on the same screen. Now I know ^_^

I appreciate the dev response and while I understand what you are saying, I do myself (as a self titled gamer of several decades now) find "local coop" to be synonymous with "couch coop". Even tho steam has an additional check box for shared/split screen, you could easily imagine someone tasked with listing the game to not check that box and think local coop is enough to tell people it can be played on the same machine. So its on Steam really to clearly define that label IMO.

+1 for co-optimus site, they know whats goin on ;)
QuinnMeisterGeneral Dec 23, 2016 @ 11:23am 
Wish I seen this thread before I bought the game. Instead I have to refund due to lack of Local Coop as the game devs chose to describe LAN gaming as Local Coop.

Coop is Local OR Networked. Networked covers LAN (Local Area Network) and WAN (in this case internet). Local means on the same system.
papoutsi Dec 23, 2016 @ 2:26pm 
darn i thought it was co op so i bought it asap, now i see that techinically its not since my friend lives in another country :D
Flash Dec 23, 2016 @ 2:48pm 
Of course it's co-op. I can understand Quinn's problem, because local co-op is usually seen as couch co-op.
But 1001: if your friend is living in another country, SR has you covered. It's regular co-op over the internet.
Last edited by Flash; Dec 23, 2016 @ 2:48pm
Doctor Teeth Dec 26, 2016 @ 12:12pm 
I'm glad I came here to check before buying the game.

But a thing the devs should be aware of is that the vast majority of players/steam users will understand "local co-op" to mean multiple players on one machine.

I understand why the devs came away with a different impression based on the categories steam presented you. I think it's important to understand the impression people coming to your page will come away with though, and think about whether you are communicating what you intended.
Thank god I saw that, misleading as ♥♥♥♥ an almost bought the game for 4 player split screen. Local coop is couch coop to any gamer I've ever known. Of course if it has multiplayer you can local coop.......
Arawn'Aun May 22, 2017 @ 7:37pm 
Yeah it is... will be returning this directly. You guys can hide behind steam if you want but doubt you'll find to many who agree with you...
Flash May 22, 2017 @ 11:28pm 
You're a bit late for the party. The game itself is good and it's finished. I don't think it'll get any updates or features, as 5 Lives Studios seem to be pretty much... lets say "sleeping". Lets hope they're busy making SR2, but the forum looks pretty abandoned.
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