sega says you dont own this game

[Old Alpha]

so Sega have said you down own this game you own a open ended licence that can be revoked at any point. Jesus games just never give you what you have brought. i have purchased this yet looks great but the post is still developing

[Jeff4u]

I think the law just not catch up with digital good. In the past, license is one thing but the company never can stop you using the software if you got a software key.

Nowadays, company incorporate DRM and can stop you using the software even you brought it and should has valid licence.

This should be prohibited by law and, even the company closed, it should guarantee the license will be working or open the software w/o DRM. Otherwise., the company should not sell any digital goods with DRM. It doesn't matter how the company state the license agreement as it is just a SCAM. I own a license not a rent of license.

[hush]

Originally posted by Jeff4u:

I think the law just not catch up with digital good. In the past, license is one thing but the company never can stop you using the software if you got a software key.

Nowadays, company incorporate DRM and can stop you using the software even you brought it and should has valid licence.

This should be prohibited by law and, even the company closed, it should guarantee the license will be working or open the software w/o DRM. Otherwise., the company should not sell any digital goods with DRM. It doesn't matter how the company state the license agreement as it is just a SCAM. I own a license not a rent of license.

agree with this.

[GrimAtrament]

Sonic team already made a statement that they won't pull games from your account

[Marz]

you technically don't own anything on steam, in the rare chance that it suddenly shuts down then you can't do much about that.

[Flannaz]

Originally posted by Old Alpha:

so Sega have said you down own this game you own a open ended licence that can be revoked at any point. Jesus games just never give you what you have brought. i have purchased this yet looks great but the post is still developing

yes because they own the software - you're buying a license to use the software - so no you don't own the actual game...... this is common sense

[Astolfo]

thats why you buys from gog and itch, if sega take your games away from you, you get moral right pirate everything ,

[Viper]

Originally posted by Mois:

You are over-reacting, it applies for all Steam games.

It applies to all games period.

[petran79]

let them rant. You own it. Make a backup, keep it forever, mod it, distribute it

[Juez]

Let's see that there are people who don't understand anything.

You buy a game, you SIMPLY have the RIGHT TO USE IT and that's it. This has ALWAYS been the case.

You have NEVER had, NOR WILL YOU HAVE, and it is also LOGICAL, rights or permission over the material itself. Neither the models, textures, music, code, etc. will ever be yours.

There is no discussion or controversy with this.

Regarding the fact that they can revoke a license of use etc. etc., it is something that is always there to cover certain cases, but it is something that has not happened nor will happen unless there is a real abuse in such a way that the person's permission to use it has to be withdrawn.

And the same thing happens with PHYSICAL GAMES. You have the plastic piece of the disk, but in your entire life you will have NO RIGHTS over the content of the disk.

[Viper]

I don't know why some people are under the impression they own games on GOG or game sellers like that. GOGs user agreement that you agree to even before you can buy a game states . All user agreements attached to that game through there developer apply. Enforcement might be difficult but whatever the original games user agreement was it still hasn't changed. Just because Gogs selling it does not mean they all the sudden became the owner of that game.

[Maniac]

Originally posted by Astolfo:

thats why you buys from gog and itch, if sega take your games away from you, you get moral right pirate everything ,

yea thats the best, i also try only to buy from gog whenever posible, unfortunately i decided this 10 years and 1300 games too late XD

[Chris]

Well Sega can say what ever they want.. Nothing is going to stop me from buying this game, playing it to 100% completion and then years later if I decide to install it again and do the same. I own that experience and nothing can take it away.

[Viper]

Originally posted by EntityofDesire:

Ya this is why you go GOG, I hate how the market for video games has become a "you dont' own this product" - its so anti-consumer. This is why I still buy Nintendo Switch games physically, and yes you could argue the switch needs to go online - but only to update the game and I could literally never give it an internet connection - games dont require online activation and the moment nintendo does this i stop buying their console.

More to the point this game released on PS5 physically too and this type of license can't really be implemented either. I know somebody once said to me that technically all game companies have this type of license even back before digital release - but NEVER in the history of game publishing has a company like Nintendo, Sony or Microsoft gone into a persons home and physically taken away their game. The BACKLASH if game companies physically did this, tearing away games from children while invading personal property/homes would be insane.

But for some reason we have now allowed this for all our digital goods. The use of denovu only complicates this matter on PC too, because for SOME reason they REALLY dont want PC users ever to have full access to the game. But sure go buy it physically, trade it with your friends, sell it on marketplace - they dont care.

Originally posted by Viper:

I don't know why some people are under the impression they own games on GOG or game sellers like that. GOGs user agreement that you agree to even before you can buy a game states . All user agreements attached to that game through there developer apply. Enforcement might be difficult but whatever the original games user agreement was it still hasn't changed.

So for example posts like this remind us that GTA4 was "removed" online - but they never actually REMOVED the game from anybodies account. The ONLY example of this happening is with the Crew and currently Ubisoft is being sued in the EU for this because its against consumer laws there.

More so again its not like Rockstar is going to go house to house to "take physical copies" of GTAIV away from consumers. Outside of that actually being illegal, in some US states people would "stand their ground" and the sheer amount of lawsuits that would follow...

Them taking away your game is just a very minor part of actually owning a game. Licensing agreements usually specify that you cannot resell or transfer your games to others. THey also say you have no intelectual rights to the game.Meaning you can not use the copyrights contents of that software such as the code...ideas in the game..etc. Full ownership would give you all of this .You could freely do what ever you wanted with the game.

[Viper]

Originally posted by EntityofDesire:

Originally posted by Viper:

Them taking away your game is just a very minor part of actually owning a game. Licensing agreements usually specify that you cannot resell or transfer your games to others. THey also say you hav eno intelectual rights to the game.Meaning you can not use the copyrights contents of that software such as the code...ideas in the game..etc. Full ownership would give you all of this .You could freely do what ever you wanted with the game.

Except consumer laws VERY strictly state that you are allowed to resell products you buy. Copyright is entirely something else.

gamespot takes trades, marketplace is filled with games. Heck entire game stores exist to resell games. So im not really sure what your point is here (i dont mean this in a rude way) because it really shows the law has no teeth and nigh impossible to enforce, and again is actually illegal/against consumer laws.

no such laws exist that overide an agreed to user contract that you have to actually agree to to play the game.Binding contract. Try selling a digital game..good luck with THAT.

[Louis Cypher]

Originally posted by DrkCntry:

Originally posted by Old Alpha:

im not trying anything im just a normal person reading changes in how licences are handled is all.

But there are no changes... the license clause has been around for well over 30 years...

no, stop lying and exaggerating.
There is a noticable shift and the OP is smart to point it out.
Oyu on the contrary seem to suffer from Buyer's Stockholm Syndrome.