How the hell do you beat the dealer?

[DarkFenix]

I reached him for the first time today, I had 215 hp and the armour that gets stronger as you get hit. I still couldn't beat him in spite of that, dying just after the lizard bosses. Is there a trick I'm missing?

[Ratt]

After the lizard bosses? Unless I'm forgetting something, all you have to do then is deflect one more attack and hit him a few times while he does nothing.

If you mean you died to the lizard bosses, remember how the King and the Queen's totem protect other lizardmen. The King has to die first, then the totem, then the Queen and Jack in either order.

[DarkFenix]

Oh I know how to beat them, I was only going for the King. And I died to the explosions the dealer created immediately after the lizards died. But if I only got that far off over 200 health (got great success in that encounter you need to be heavily cursed for) and the most protective armour in the game, it seems an almost impossible feat to get there without supreme luck.

Edit: Okay, I did it, found the gear that trivialised him. The gloves that apply a curse on hit remove the threat from ANY melee boss. That plus the healing artifact and he's really quite easy, the only remaining challenge is the unhelpful camera and dodgy hitbox making it difficult to avoid the moving lasers.

[Ratt]

I haven't noticed a dodgy hitbox, but keep in mind that Kallas moves like a vehicle. He has a limited turn rate, and pressing any directional key will make him move whichever way he happens to be facing while turning whichever way you told him to move. It's enough that if you try to move backward, you'll stumble forward a lot further than you might expect.

It's a weird choice, or an even weirder implementation if it wasn't a choice, and hopefully Hand of Fate 2 clears it up.

[DarkFenix]

Your character's hitbox is noticably larger than the character model. Normally it just means an enemy attack which clearly hit air will instead get you, but in the dealer fight the dodgy camera can make it that little bit harder to avoid the lasers.

[Drahcir0]

I killed him first try with 60 health (first curse was a curse that decreases max health by 10 every time i get a curse) and light armour so take my word for it: git gud. Every attack can be predicted and dodged or blocked, it's just a matter of skill. I also never noticed any dodgy hitboxes. Turn down the graphics if the game is stuttering.

As for non douchy things to say: collect all the blessings and rings you can, they give permanent boni that sometimes even stack or play off of each other.

Take the explorer's gift as fate, it's blatantly the strongest and most op fate, as long as you're not against the kos.

Icefang and hag'swraps slow enemies to as crawl, you can get about 10 hits in before they finish one.

Bloodcrescent is imo the strongest weapon in the game, the finisher ability is extremly useful and it's weapon ability is able to one or twoshot any enemy.

[Cross{x}Hair]

Originally posted by Drahcir0:

I killed him first try with 60 health (first curse was a curse that decreases max health by 10 every time i get a curse) and light armour so take my word for it: git gud. Every attack can be predicted and dodged or blocked, it's just a matter of skill. I also never noticed any dodgy hitboxes. Turn down the graphics if the game is stuttering.

As for non douchy things to say: collect all the blessings and rings you can, they give permanent boni that sometimes even stack or play off of each other.

Take the explorer's gift as fate, it's blatantly the strongest and most op fate, as long as you're not against the kos.

Icefang and hag'swraps slow enemies to as crawl, you can get about 10 hits in before they finish one.

Bloodcrescent is imo the strongest weapon in the game, the finisher ability is extremly useful and it's weapon ability is able to one or twoshot any enemy.

But you cant get Blessings against the Dealer..

If you get the dmg on area entry for each ring your stuffed...

[IFIYGD]

Originally posted by Maclunkey:

Originally posted by Drahcir0:

I killed him first try with 60 health (first curse was a curse that decreases max health by 10 every time i get a curse) and light armour so take my word for it: git gud. Every attack can be predicted and dodged or blocked, it's just a matter of skill. I also never noticed any dodgy hitboxes. Turn down the graphics if the game is stuttering.

As for non douchy things to say: collect all the blessings and rings you can, they give permanent boni that sometimes even stack or play off of each other.

Take the explorer's gift as fate, it's blatantly the strongest and most op fate, as long as you're not against the kos.

Icefang and hag'swraps slow enemies to as crawl, you can get about 10 hits in before they finish one.

Bloodcrescent is imo the strongest weapon in the game, the finisher ability is extremly useful and it's weapon ability is able to one or twoshot any enemy.

But you cant get Blessings against the Dealer..

If you get the dmg on area entry for each ring your stuffed...

Nice necro.
Willing to bet there are much more recent threads posted about strategies for this game... less than 2 1/2 years old.

[Cross{x}Hair]

Originally posted by IFIYGD:

Originally posted by Maclunkey:

But you cant get Blessings against the Dealer..

If you get the dmg on area entry for each ring your stuffed...

Nice necro.
Willing to bet there are much more recent threads posted about strategies for this game... less than 2 1/2 years old.

Top google result for me though, Was having trouble with him myself.

[Drahcir0]

Originally posted by Maclunkey:

Originally posted by IFIYGD:

Nice necro.
Willing to bet there are much more recent threads posted about strategies for this game... less than 2 1/2 years old.

Top google result for me though, Was having trouble with him myself.

Well honestly there's nothing you can do except to learn the dealers attack patterns, they're pretty predictable if I remember correctly.

The bigger trouble are the minions along the way, against which my post still holds up. Of course git gud applies here also, as you can go the entire game without getting hit if you have a bit of skill.

[Vladislav4ik]

Also there is a trick. If you die - you do not need to go back from the very beginning. Hit a pause and quit. Then restart the application and you will load the game exactly before the boss fight. That saved me many hours as I tried to kill him about 10 times :)

[iiago]

It's Feb 2021 and this post is still hit #1 on google when you search "Hand of Fate dealer strategies to beat".

Few comments from someone who just beat him:
* "Git gud" is ♥♥♥♥♥♥ advice. The answer to this fight is strategy and gear, not technical prowess. And considering the level has no blessings, the post gets the basic premises of the whole level wrong, which doesn't say much for its plausibility.

* The strategy I was using for most of the game was Defensive - chip away at the nearest enemy then dodge-roll to safety. Do not do this for the Dealer. Specifically, don't use it for waves 3 or 4, or you will die. This is because the King of Plauges (in wave 3) is nigh undodgable when he's part of a scrum, and the King of Scales (in wave 4) must be killed before anyone else. So if you were using that strategy, stop doing it.

* The strategy I used for waves 3/4 was to be play aggressive not defensive. While these waves are being summonsed, run up to the middle of the pack and wail on the King of Plague/Scales as soon as they appear. You'll get about 3-4 hits on them, then counter/dodge-roll away. Repeat this strategy until the King is dead. This is a lot safer then you'd think, because when you launch into the middle of a scrum, the enemies just dance around menacingly for a few hits before they decide to attack. So run in, hit 3-4 times, then counter/dodge-roll away. Repeat.

* Once you've killed the Kings, you can use whatever strategy you like.

* With this strategy the Hag's Wraps are helpful, because they give you a few more hits before you have to dodge-roll away. You also want a weapon that does max damage, so you can kill those Kings quickly. I liked the Battle Hammer because not only does it do a lot of damage, but its special-power explosion can be used as your first attack, which pushes all the nearby enemies away a little bit, and lets you get an extra hit or two in.

* I found the Skeleton King's sword not helpful. I thought it would be good, but the rate of healing is too low to make a difference. Also its special power is defensive not offensive, and this strategy requires strong offense.

* The "turn the game off immediately if you die" trick really works, and saves a lot of grind.

* If you're really stuck, try unlocking some better cards then trying again. Also customise your deck for this level by removing anything that just gives you blessings and focusing on gold/max health/gear.

[Quelle indignité]

Originally posted by Vladislav4ik:

Also there is a trick. If you die - you do not need to go back from the very beginning. Hit a pause and quit. Then restart the application and you will load the game exactly before the boss fight. That saved me many hours as I tried to kill him about 10 times :)

This is called "cheating"

Originally posted by Drahcir0:

As for non douchy things to say: collect all the blessings and rings you can, they give permanent boni that sometimes even stack or play off of each other.

You can't have any blessings in the final stage !

Originally posted by DarkFenix:

Edit: Okay, I did it, found the gear that trivialised him. The gloves that apply a curse on hit remove the threat from ANY melee boss.

What do you mean by that ? That there are no more requirements in the order in which you have to deal with the enemies if you wear those gloves ? I just beat the game today and completely forgot about the fact that the Lizards must be beaten in any particular order. And I managed to win without respecting that order. Might have to do with the gloves then I suppose.

[KMGor]

Originally posted by Quelle indignité:

Originally posted by Vladislav4ik:

Also there is a trick. If you die - you do not need to go back from the very beginning. Hit a pause and quit. Then restart the application and you will load the game exactly before the boss fight. That saved me many hours as I tried to kill him about 10 times :)

This is called "cheating"

I'd argue not. You're not doing anything outside the scope of the game's normal rules to accomplish it. I actually did it by accident a couple of times when I quit out (I just quit when I die, play something else and come back later), it's so easy to do they have to have learned about it while testing the game and intentionally left it that way.