Subnautica

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𝕾𝖆𝖙𝖆𝖓 2018 年 2 月 10 日 上午 10:57
How did reviews go from "overwhelmingly" to "very" positive
In the past I had many bad experiences with survival games, I just don't usually like them, but people on Reddit were telling me to get this one, so I played it and it's actually kinda fun. I was gonna buy it (yup), but I noticed the rating on Humble is listed as "overwhelmingly positive" but steam says "very positive". Did something happen?
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𝕾𝖆𝖙𝖆𝖓 2018 年 2 月 10 日 上午 11:48 
Lucki 發表:
People decided to write reviews about things that have nothing to do with the gameplay. Any review that remotely hints at this debacle should not be considered viable.
"Oh..." is the only response I have. I kinda get why you'd want to fire the guy, but that pool on whether to improve "the core game" or let people play as a woman is also very cringeworthy to be honest. I don't think anyone should lose a job over a political opinion, but if they feel that it's a problem for their image. Well, looks like he's dona great job and I also kinda see why people would be upset. Oh well. Weirdness.
最後修改者:𝕾𝖆𝖙𝖆𝖓; 2018 年 2 月 10 日 上午 11:49
Lucki 2018 年 2 月 10 日 上午 11:51 
𝕾𝖆𝖙𝖆𝖓 發表:
Lucki 發表:
People decided to write reviews about things that have nothing to do with the gameplay. Any review that remotely hints at this debacle should not be considered viable.
"Oh..." is the only response I have. I kinda get why you'd want to fire the guy, but that pool on whether to improve "the core game" or let people play as a woman is also very cringeworthy to be honest. I don't think anyone should lose a job over a political opinion, but if they feel that it's a problem for their image. Well, looks like he's dona great job and I also kinda see why people would be upset. Oh well. Weirdness.

Either way, the main point is that this whole debate should not be here on this forum and it should not be present in peoples reviews for the actual game.

Luckily we are starting to get this forum back on track. I heard Devs we’re reporting certain reviews for abuse ad hopefully steam will jump in that.

It doesn’t belong here. Facebook, Twitter, Reddit? Have at it. Not general gameplay forums.
Agrilid 2018 年 2 月 10 日 下午 12:00 
𝕾𝖆𝖙𝖆𝖓 發表:
Lucki 發表:
People decided to write reviews about things that have nothing to do with the gameplay. Any review that remotely hints at this debacle should not be considered viable.
"Oh..." is the only response I have. I kinda get why you'd want to fire the guy, but that pool on whether to improve "the core game" or let people play as a woman is also very cringeworthy to be honest. I don't think anyone should lose a job over a political opinion, but if they feel that it's a problem for their image. Well, looks like he's dona great job and I also kinda see why people would be upset. Oh well. Weirdness.

If you keep the political view to your self then sure no one should be fired for it.However as soon as you use a platform to inform everyone of your view, then you should deal with the consequences.
heartc 2018 年 2 月 10 日 下午 12:06 
Agrilid 發表:
𝕾𝖆𝖙𝖆𝖓 發表:
"Oh..." is the only response I have. I kinda get why you'd want to fire the guy, but that pool on whether to improve "the core game" or let people play as a woman is also very cringeworthy to be honest. I don't think anyone should lose a job over a political opinion, but if they feel that it's a problem for their image. Well, looks like he's dona great job and I also kinda see why people would be upset. Oh well. Weirdness.

If you keep the political view to your self then sure no one should be fired for it.However as soon as you use a platform to inform everyone of your view, then you should deal with the consequences.

You are free to have whatever opinion you like as long as you do not talk about it, else get fired.

- Progressivist understanding of freedom

As I said, the future will hold you people against your own standards. Look forward to it.
最後修改者:heartc; 2018 年 2 月 10 日 下午 12:07
Alkpaz 2018 年 2 月 10 日 下午 12:18 
William Shakesman 發表:
Lucki 發表:

Either way, the main point is that this whole debate should not be here on this forum and it should not be present in peoples reviews for the actual game.

Luckily we are starting to get this forum back on track. I heard Devs we’re reporting certain reviews for abuse ad hopefully steam will jump in that.

It doesn’t belong here. Facebook, Twitter, Reddit? Have at it. Not general gameplay forums.
The easiest way to deal with that is still to issue refunds to the users in question. Subnautica is not helped by allowing racists to play their game AT ALL. Refund the game, ban them from buying in the future. Win-win for everyone.

Take it up with Valve.. they wrote the policy concerning returns.
William Shakesman 2018 年 2 月 10 日 下午 12:18 
Agrilid 發表:
heartc 發表:

You are free to have whatever opinion you like as long as you do not talk about it, else get fired.

- Progressivist understanding of freedom

As I said, the future will hold you people against your own standards. Look forward to it.

It's called being an adult. Work for a company that shares your beliefs then,it's not difficult to understand. You have the right to be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥,but nobody has to deal with it.
No it's not being an adult. Quite the opposite, you're being a child and asking the corporations to be the adults. You whine to corporations when someone says something you don't like because you can't deal with it yourself. You just have gone through some silly mental gymnastics to conflate "Makes crazy diaper-wearing children yell at the company" to "Reflect on the company."
Alkpaz 2018 年 2 月 10 日 下午 12:20 
William Shakesman 發表:
Alkpaz 發表:

Take it up with Valve.. they wrote the policy concerning returns.
Actually, no, for a situation like this, the devs have the power and the responsibility to issue the refunds. Valve isn't the right people to talk to, they are just the customer service; they can't police games.

UWE should tell Valve to issue refunds to the racist customers.

Valve makes 30% income from each sale. See: Skyrim Paid Mod Fiasco.
最後修改者:Alkpaz; 2018 年 2 月 10 日 下午 12:21
Greep 2018 年 2 月 10 日 下午 12:21 
99% sure the OP knew what happened and is stirring things up. Unless he just posted here without taking the minute to read the reviews lol.
Agrilid 2018 年 2 月 10 日 下午 12:23 
William Shakesman 發表:
Agrilid 發表:

It's called being an adult. Work for a company that shares your beliefs then,it's not difficult to understand. You have the right to be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥,but nobody has to deal with it.
No it's not being an adult. Quite the opposite, you're being a child and asking the corporations to be the adults. You whine to corporations when someone says something you don't like because you can't deal with it yourself. You just have gone through some silly mental gymnastics to conflate "Makes crazy diaper-wearing children yell at the company" to "Reflect on the company."

What? So you are stating that the developers only fired this person due to others complaints not the companies values? I think you are confused.
William Shakesman 2018 年 2 月 10 日 下午 12:24 
Howl 發表:
Agrilid 發表:

It's called being an adult. Work for a company that shares your beliefs then,it's not difficult to understand. You have the right to be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥,but nobody has to deal with it.

Heartc and Shakesman have been on here nonstop for the past four days complaining and writing essays. Just don't give them the attention they desperately crave.
It's not attention I crave, friend. I only want what's best for the community I have invested in, after all.

Why do you defend racists?
MinimumEntropy 2018 年 2 月 10 日 下午 12:26 
What happened is their sound designer broke his contract, was legally fired, was totally ok with it and there were no hard feelings, and then a bunch of salty racists/kids got mad and gave a great game bad reviews.
William Shakesman 2018 年 2 月 10 日 下午 12:26 
Agrilid 發表:
William Shakesman 發表:
No it's not being an adult. Quite the opposite, you're being a child and asking the corporations to be the adults. You whine to corporations when someone says something you don't like because you can't deal with it yourself. You just have gone through some silly mental gymnastics to conflate "Makes crazy diaper-wearing children yell at the company" to "Reflect on the company."

What? So you are stating that the developers only fired this person due to others complaints not the companies values? I think you are confused.
If your values include disemploying people over minor political differences, you're not a corporation any more; simply a political party. And you commit fraud on your userbase claiming that you are making non-political games and expecting to be judged regardless of your politics if you can't do it for your employees.

So, no, sorry, you're the confused one, buddy.
Agrilid 2018 年 2 月 10 日 下午 12:26 
heartc 發表:
Agrilid 發表:

It's called being an adult. Work for a company that shares your beliefs then,it's not difficult to understand. You have the right to be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥,but nobody has to deal with it.

No, it's called being a political enemy of x and destroying your opponent. You'll get the chance to experience it from the other end in the future, it might help with your understanding of it.

Troll with a persecution complex,hilarious.
Agrilid 2018 年 2 月 10 日 下午 12:27 
MinimumEntropy 發表:
What happened is their sound designer broke his contract, was legally fired, was totally ok with it and there were no hard feelings, and then a bunch of salty racists/kids got mad and gave a great game bad reviews.

This right here, nothing else to say.
Howl 2018 年 2 月 10 日 下午 12:28 
Agrilid 發表:
MinimumEntropy 發表:
What happened is their sound designer broke his contract, was legally fired, was totally ok with it and there were no hard feelings, and then a bunch of salty racists/kids got mad and gave a great game bad reviews.

This right here, nothing else to say.

Agreed.
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