Ori and the Blind Forest

Ori and the Blind Forest

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💋 💋 💋 Mar 10, 2015 @ 6:57pm
Looks nice, but is asking too much.
My big problem with indie games that ask me for 20 dollars is the fact if I wait a month, maybe two it will either be half off or more or even on a humble bundle. You know this will happen, it will happen. This is a single player game that got attention from the media, it will be in the next, if not the next humble bundle after that. Considering this isn't a online game I can wait to enjoy it at anytime. That is what people don't understand, there is zero rush to get to this game and waiting only benefits you but the "I gotta have it nooow" mentality rekts the general gamer as seen by the many posts below.

This is less of a money issue and more of a time issue. 20 dollar isn't a lot, but for a 10 hour game I'll need something more than just an impressive looking game that has nice visuals and audio (terrible game play by the way), I'll need an impressive price tag too to reel me in.

Also looking at the trailers and a bit of gameplay; this game mostly uses classical tear jerkers that have been used time and time again. Oh no the cute tiny naimal is an orphan then gets taken care of by the big lovable creature, then that creature dies how tragic! Seriously, a double orphan story? This game is a metrovina game with floaty controls and auto-aiming in a platformer. It offers you nothing more than visuals and auto excellence, something you can get from a lot of other sources for a lot less. If all you desire is visual and audio and you don't care much for gameplay then fine, that's completely fine for you; it is not fine for me.

Simply put, for me anyway, this game is too much of a risk. Poor controls mixed with unreasonable difficulty means there is an awfully high chance I won't finish this game at all and that 20 bux would be wasted money. I don't care if it's 20 dollars or just one, wasted money on entertainment is garbage. Plus to make matters worse reviewers are reporting a huge amount of game breaking bugs, bugs that actually wall you and force a restart. Nope nope nope nope nope.

Out of the 40 negative reviews for this game, currently 3 of them complain of "can't run game bad game" and the rest complain about how absurdly difficult the game is. This game's presentation draws in new players with adorable and cute things then suddenly takes that casual gamer and snaps them in half with multiple sections of the game that are insane in difficulty. The designers of this game did not think to include any of the following to help this out: check points, perhaps have a reasonable ramp up in difficulty instead of having a stead incline followed by a cliff.

Related note: You can save anywhere via some sort of mechanic in the game, however check points would have been a bit nicer considering at various points when the difficulty ramps up you suddenly cannot save anywhere. Perhaps better game design would lead to devs not having to include such a feature?

Trine series:
Tight controls and platforming.
Innovative three person control.
Simple but interesting story that branches out.
Extremely good co-op.
Pleasing visuals.
Pleasing audio.
Stays mostly original despite the subject matter.
Reasonable difficulty.

This game, Ori:
Floaty controls (in a platformer)?
Lack of control (Auto aiming shots in a metrovina game).
Lack of innovation (Basic metrovina game, also please note lack of innovation isn't a bad thing par say).
Simple tear jerker story designed to play on basic human emotion (DOUBLE ORPHEN)!
Single Player only.
Pleasing visuals.
Pleasing audio.
Creates it's own subject matter but draws heavily from original sources.
Unreasonable difficult halfway through the game compounding ontop of bad controls.
Last edited by 💋 💋 💋; Mar 15, 2015 @ 10:47pm
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deadmerc Mar 10, 2015 @ 7:03pm 
20 dollars for around a ten hour game? That is to much? Man I hate to be mean but either you are not financially able to play games, are spoiled, or are just arrogant. 20 bucks is not asking much at all if the game is amazing. Also, you should want to support the devs that make games like this buy it.
deadmerc Mar 10, 2015 @ 7:03pm 
Actually you know what, ill buy it now just because of the stupidity of this person and buy a gift copy for the next person that posts in here :D
muckymucks Mar 10, 2015 @ 7:05pm 
Originally posted by deadmerc:
Actually you know what, ill buy it now just because of the stupidity of this person and buy a gift copy for the next person that posts in here :D


Me!
Last edited by muckymucks; Mar 10, 2015 @ 7:05pm
HunterSeeker Mar 10, 2015 @ 7:05pm 
Some games does go down that path, should the initial sale be poorer than expectations. But it's not so common that I would hold back on purchasing games at full price.

For example, Starbound came out in December, 2013 at $15 full price. It was not until Jan 2015 that it was discounted to $10. That is a hell of a long time to wait for a 5$ discount.

I think your issue is buying too many games and not have enough time to play them. I would be a lot more selective about what I buy. That way, it helps out the industry to weed out the bad games too.
💋 💋 💋 Mar 10, 2015 @ 7:08pm 
Originally posted by PhaseJump:
$20 in the year 2015 is too much? Are you a child, or unemployed or what?
Teaching college kids pays well enough.

Originally posted by deadmerc:
20 dollars for around a ten hour game? That is to much? Man I hate to be mean but either you are not financially able to play games, are spoiled, or are just arrogant. 20 bucks is not asking much at all if the game is amazing. Also, you should want to support the devs that make games like this buy it.
20 dollars for 10 hours is extremely short. Before I thought this game was longer but now that you've confirmed just how short it is it's super not worth it. I generally want to get at least an hour of enjoyment per dollar I spend, it's just me.
bzinhogames Mar 10, 2015 @ 7:09pm 
Me please!!!
💋 💋 💋 Mar 10, 2015 @ 7:10pm 
Originally posted by PANNYA:
Some games does go down that path, should the initial sale be poorer than expectations. But it's not so common that I would hold back on purchasing games at full price.

For example, Starbound came out in December, 2013 at $15 full price. It was not until Jan 2015 that it was discounted to $10. That is a hell of a long time to wait for a 5$ discount.

I think your issue is buying too many games and not have enough time to play them. I would be a lot more selective about what I buy. That way, it helps out the industry to weed out the bad games too.
Thank you for actually being nice. Everyone but you so far have jumped on my post with negativity. Also you are correct, it's less of a money and more of a time issue.
bzinhogames Mar 10, 2015 @ 7:10pm 
Originally posted by deadmerc:
Actually you know what, ill buy it now just because of the stupidity of this person and buy a gift copy for the next person that posts in here :D
Me please!!!
Lelling Mar 10, 2015 @ 7:10pm 
Originally posted by (Toriel):
I generally want to get at least an hour of enjoyment per dollar I spend, it's just me.

So I suppose you never go to the movies :D
💋 💋 💋 Mar 10, 2015 @ 7:11pm 
Originally posted by Lelling:
Originally posted by (Toriel):
I generally want to get at least an hour of enjoyment per dollar I spend, it's just me.

So I suppose you never go to the movies :D
I don't actually.
Killbomb Mar 10, 2015 @ 7:13pm 
I honestly don't think $20 is too much for a 10 hour game if it's a quality experience which is what this game looks to be. I can see the logic in waiting for a sale though if it's something you don't need to play right now.
deadmerc Mar 10, 2015 @ 7:13pm 
No you are spoiled as hell. 20 dollars is not asking to much, end of story.
💋 💋 💋 Mar 10, 2015 @ 7:14pm 
Originally posted by Killbomb:
I honestly don't think $20 is too much for a 10 hour game if it's a quality experience which is what this game looks to be. I can see the logic in waiting for a sale though if it's something you don't need to play right now.
I've got planty more to do, I did wish the devs luck though.

Originally posted by deadmerc:
No you are spoiled as hell. 20 dollars is not asking to much, end of story.
You are a terribly hateful person, aren't you?
ContraWars Mar 10, 2015 @ 7:14pm 
This is a rock solid, fast playing 2D metroidvania game with killer graphics and a somber presentation you don't see every day. It is very much like something that would have been selling Sega consoles 20 years ago.


Also, $20 is cheap. The dollar depreciates year over year, and sooner or later you're going to see that price be a new indie standard.
💋 💋 💋 Mar 10, 2015 @ 7:16pm 
Originally posted by PhaseJump:
This is a rock solid, fast playing 2D metroidvania game with killer graphics and a somber presentation you don't see every day. It is very much like something that would have been selling Sega consoles 20 years ago.


Also, $20 is cheap. The dollar depreciates year over year, and sooner or later you're going to see that price be a new indie standard.
Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number is longer than this game, has an impressive visual style, is extremely solid, and well reviewed. It's 14.99 and it just came out today.
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