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Serious Sam 4

The hypocrisy of Croteam
Croteam. A studio that is hell-bent on supporting "an open and multiplatform technological solutions", like for example Vulkan.

Croteam. A studio that after decade of severe aliasing issues in their games decided to add an AA solution that no only is vendor specific, but only works on 3 GPUs, instead of using well documented, open-source, backed by scientific research paper SMAA.

Get it? They're basically saying "Guys, we are aware of the aliasing issues in our engine and after a decade of not doing anything with it, we have decided to improve it by implementing a brand new, totally awesome technology that 99% of you won't be able to use. Isn't that awesome?"

Croteam is becoming the EA of indie scene.

P.S.: Let it be noted that I didn't use a single curse word.
Last edited by Terepin; Aug 27 @ 6:02am
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Ouch. Tough words.

i have to say if croteam delivers with their promice of gamma corrected msaa and it actualy works on all aliasing, then im fine. As of now the msaa and the alpha coverage is complete♥♥♥♥♥♥ No questions. If ss4 comes out without a radical overhal to msaa quality, ill completly join you on this. No point in making a game look good if its a jaggy, unstable mess.
Last edited by Gay Baby Jail; Aug 27 @ 6:16am
Saying they're the EA of indies isn't really justified. But yeah, it is stupid what they've done. I'm with you on this one.

P.S. You also didn't mention dynamic skyboxes! Eh, I guess one issue at a time.

Also, I'm not the biggest tech nerd. Can you explain why SMAA would be good?
Last edited by GrandSecgend; Aug 27 @ 7:00am
Seamus Aug 27 @ 7:15am 
You've got serious anger issues, Terepin.

Calm the ♥♥♥♥ down.
Terepin Aug 27 @ 8:04am 
Originally posted by Seamus:
You've got serious anger issues, Terepin.

Calm the ♥♥♥♥ down.
And yet you're the only one in here cursing.
Terepin Aug 27 @ 8:16am 
Originally posted by GrandSecgend:
Also, I'm not the biggest tech nerd. Can you explain why SMAA would be good?
Because unlike FXAA it doesn't blur the image and requires only slightly more resources while providing significantly better quality. But most importantly it is open-source, It's flexible and can combine up to three different AA methods. SMAA 4x is combination of SMAA 1x, TSSAA 2x and MSAA 2x.
Seamus Aug 27 @ 9:02am 
Originally posted by Terepin:
Originally posted by Seamus:
You've got serious anger issues, Terepin.

Calm the ♥♥♥♥ down.
And yet you're the only one in here cursing.
Yes. Because cursing is entirely limited to anger.

You're deluded as well as chronically angry. To no ones shock.
Originally posted by Seamus:
Originally posted by Terepin:
And yet you're the only one in here cursing.
Yes. Because cursing is entirely limited to anger.

You're deluded as well as chronically angry. To no ones shock.
You really think anyone takes you seriously?
Seamus Aug 27 @ 11:21am 
Originally posted by The Iron Butt:
Originally posted by Seamus:
Yes. Because cursing is entirely limited to anger.

You're deluded as well as chronically angry. To no ones shock.
You really think anyone takes you seriously?
Think anyone actually takes Terepin seriously? He's an obsessive, actively abusive nut.
Originally posted by Seamus:
Originally posted by The Iron Butt:
You really think anyone takes you seriously?
Think anyone actually takes Terepin seriously? He's an obsessive, actively abusive nut.
And hes never been wrong. Did your fee fees get hurt that he doesnt suck the teet of a corporation?
First off, I'm pretty glad Terepin did not curse much in his original post. Second, to say that Croteam is becoming the EA of indie developers is an overstatement, at least how I'm seeing it now.
Last edited by PootularMayonnaise; Aug 27 @ 12:11pm
Seamus Aug 27 @ 12:59pm 
Originally posted by The Iron Butt:
Originally posted by Seamus:
Think anyone actually takes Terepin seriously? He's an obsessive, actively abusive nut.
And hes never been wrong.
Well that's a load of crap.
Originally posted by Terepin:
Croteam is just sh*tting in their own mouth at this point. At one hand they claim they're supporting Vulkan, because it's multiplatform, on the other hand they have no problem implementing feature that works on 3 f*cking cards from a single vendor. I wonder how much had nVidia payed them to use it...
Acting like a petulant child because of something so minor as croteam wanting to try out new tech is far from right. Can you really blame the devs for ignoring him when most of his posts on sam forums are like that one?
Did your fee fees get hurt that he doesnt suck the teet of a corporation?
Projecting pretty hard there, man.

You seem to be confusing not treating developers like garbage for no reason with shilling. They're not the same thing by any means.
You would fit in niclely among the reddit crowd. Im ignoring you from now on. Im not even gonna tell you how wrong you are or why. I like seeing you flounder in your own ego.
Last edited by Gay Baby Jail; Aug 27 @ 1:14pm
Seamus Aug 27 @ 1:14pm 
Originally posted by The Iron Butt:
You would fit in niclely among the reddit crowd. Im ignoring you from ]now on.
Coward.
And this just goes to show how rude the Serious Sam community can be from time to time.
Last edited by PootularMayonnaise; Aug 28 @ 5:35am
Terepin Aug 28 @ 7:30am 
Oh no. Did I hurt your feelings?
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