How to fix Train Jams outside of town

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Is there a way to solve Train Jams outside of my town? One of my "exits" gets backtraffic alot because trains dont seem to leave map without stopping

Like u can see here: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/250336503412590615/7674A35EAE7AAB55F493443A8585CB0685FAC20E/

In the picture its not that severe anymore but sometimes half my city is blocked with trains, because of that.

[n00B]

And thats why we dutch cycle...

[grapplehoeker]

Originally posted by GER eclipsE:

Is there a way to solve Train Jams outside of my town? One of my "exits" gets backtraffic alot because trains dont seem to leave map without stopping

Like u can see here: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/250336503412590615/7674A35EAE7AAB55F493443A8585CB0685FAC20E/

In the picture its not that severe anymore but sometimes half my city is blocked with trains, because of that.

Add up every cargo and passenger station that are connected to the same outside connections. That's why you have train congestion.
Every station that connects to an outside connection will spawn trains and those trains will share the loads among them, making each train inefficient.
For this reason, use only one terminal per outside connection. Keep the lines independent from each other and link the intercity terminals to your innercity network by a road link.
Here's an example,
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=492700183

[MarkJohnson]

To add to what grapplehoeker said, also check your import/exports. Too large industry is usually the cause. It takes very little industry to supply commerce so the rest gets exported. Commerce will also import goods if they are too far away from industry. Make sure you have zero import of good, and little to no exports of goods.

This will greatly reduce the train and traffic in general.

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Okay seems logic, my industry is not that "big" tbh, i have more of office Style, but i have some Industry because my business often complain and go out of order, because no goods, so i build small industry everywhere.
With the train Stations... Yes lol thats true, i build every industry zone a cargo. And i build alot of Passenger Stations too.
But the thing is: Innercity i have no problems. Maybe here and there a hiccup where a train needs to wait 5 others before it can progress, but not like this one border. On this border it takes around 5 Minutes for a train to vanish.
Like its Bugged really.

[MarkJohnson]

You need to push demand to other connections. The one connection is overloaded. Remember, that outside connection is like the one in your city, except you have like 12 or something from your description, so you have 12 times the load going to the one outside connection.

The segregation like grap shows is a very good design, then only 1 train stations goes to the outside connecting instead of 12. Then sergeant the next outside connection, but add it to the local loop.

But ultimately, it's all about balance. You need to balance your city much better. The object of the game is no traffic. The game itself will despawn traffic, and no even spawn traffic in the first place of a mature and well balanced district.

BTW, what is your import.export numbers?

[Dizzy Ioeuy]

Jesus the devs haven't fixed this bad part of the simulation yet!?!? THis ihas been the same BS since release. Come on, patch this ♥♥♥♥.

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Import is 10,759 and Export is 3.
My town has by now 220,000 Persons. Its not my first, but i didnt play for loooon time. So basically its my first.
I have no Traffic Jams anywhere not even in heavy industrial Areas.
Just this one Train Way.

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To be clear i have around 80hours ingame and spend now around 30 hours alone for this city. Really doing anything, analising traffic, make one way roads to make traffic more fluent, build highways even trough center of town, everything. Im not dumb, and i do great. All fine all good. No Jams anywhere, even if i open the "traffic info" everywhere, where its red, its flowing.
Just this now happened to me yesterday after i added 2 more Cargo Stations, but tbh on Screenshot u can see its not cargo trains, but passenger ones, that are on that route.

edit: No in my city itself there is no Jam on Trains. Every now and then like i said before a train has to wait 5 other trains to pass, but its not big deal. Its the outside Connection having that issue, the outside connection from my city out, not in

[MarkJohnson]

It's normal for traffic to be clear, but it has hundreds of roads. There are only a few train tracks. segregating them make them use other outside connections to clear up that one.

All of your trains are clogging up the one track. instead of spreading it out.

I just looked closer at your map, and all of your traffic seem to be passengers exiting. Maybe re-examine your passenger trains. The more passenger train stations, the more they spawn and you soon end up with lots of half empty trains, instead of fewer trains that are full.

Try shutting down your train stations for a test and turn only a few key ones back on after trains finish depawning. Be aware of how full each station is. total passengers per week for each station. It should have current for the day and last weeks total passengers.

How's your tourists and unemployment?

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I just checked my Train Stations and most have around 80-250 Passengers per week.

But 3 have 0. Will delete them.

My unemployment is 6% as u can see here: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/250336503417565550/5BBC9A03E95416350B2FEC27924465FEA6F0590D/

As u can see there, there would be enough work available, but most buildings are quite new. Between first post and now i have nearly 20k more People.

Tourists i have 1239 per week as u can see here: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/250336503417575415/712C888B2194978F528F80C0E11D29B55E46A404/

And here i have Picture of my Transportation: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/250336503417578625/34385C2C9BC01659CA8FA876B927D37D9F9F4003/

Maybe i really should reconsider usage of Trains, seems like my Subway can do it alone, along with buses.

[grapplehoeker]

Originally posted by GER eclipsE:

And here i have Picture of my Transportation: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=763247470
Maybe i really should reconsider usage of Trains, seems like my Subway can do it alone, along with buses.

What's wrong with this network?
I think I see 12 terminals of which at least 8 are passenger stations.
They are all sharing track.
You didn't show the outside connections but it's obvious due to your issue, that they are all connecting to at least one outside connection. This means they are all spawning intercity passenger and cargo trains per outside connection! It's no wonder they're jamming the outside connection lol.
I'll repeat my advice. Use only ONE terminal of any type per outside connection. This will be your intercity terminal for that outside connection.
Keep it independent from the rest of your innercity network. This means do not allow it to share track.
Bridge over or tunnel under at any point where different tracks meet.
Link your intercity terminals to your innercity stations by a road link, so that passengers or cargo can transfer from the outside line to your innercity internal lines.

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Originally posted by grapplehoeker:

Originally posted by GER eclipsE:

And here i have Picture of my Transportation: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=763247470
Maybe i really should reconsider usage of Trains, seems like my Subway can do it alone, along with buses.

What's wrong with this network?
I think I see 12 terminals of which at least 8 are passenger stations.
They are all sharing track.
You didn't show the outside connections but it's obvious due to your issue, that they are all connecting to at least one outside connection. This means they are all spawning intercity passenger and cargo trains per outside connection! It's no wonder they're jamming the outside connection lol.
I'll repeat my advice. Use only ONE terminal of any type per outside connection. This will be your intercity terminal for that outside connection.
Keep it independent from the rest of your innercity network. This means do not allow it to share track.
Bridge over or tunnel under at any point where different tracks meet.
Link your intercity terminals to your innercity stations by a road link, so that passengers or cargo can transfer from the outside line to your innercity internal lines.

Thanks, yes i had around 14 Train Stations, now i closed 5, and its all functioning now good again. No Jams anywhere.
Sometimes a few little hiccups, but nothing that won't solve itself over some time, without trains need to despawn.
I only kept the train Stations with more than 150 passengers per week.

[estevaobk]

Originally posted by grapplehoeker:

Link your intercity terminals to your innercity stations by a road link, so that passengers or cargo can transfer from the outside line to your innercity internal lines.

Just out of curiosity, is it possible through some mod to have a cargo station connecting with 2 tracks, both inter-city and innercity?

@eclipsE: I would like to suggest watching some videos from "Imperial Jedi" on Youtube. He has some excellent walkthroughs (IMHO) and he addresses this issue with suggestions and layouts in some of his videos.

[L.Z]

Just out of curiosity, is it possible through some mod to have a cargo station connecting with 2 tracks, both inter-city and innercity?

It works in the game without mod needed, if I'm not mistaken. I have a city with 3 cargo stations connected together, and goods from my city's industries get shipped by train to the other end of the city. Here's a vid that shows a train I observed doing this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkf-KrM-cag

Also I believe this double track station will help accomplish what you are asking:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=703597323

[grapplehoeker]

Originally posted by L.Z:

Just out of curiosity, is it possible through some mod to have a cargo station connecting with 2 tracks, both inter-city and innercity?

There is the Local Only mod, which can be used to force a station to perform only as a local station and ignore the outside connection.

Also I believe this double track station will help accomplish what you are asking:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=703597323

That's new! Damn that penguin lol
Okay, I'm gonna test this out, thanks for that ;)